Hildegard

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The WotLK profession thread

Hildegard Sprigglespruxx - Wissenschaftlerin am Institut für Pfuschkunde

http://forscherliga.wikia.com/wiki/Hildegard

 

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1 pot, a mate tested it in beta.

Yes I agree that it should not apply to health potions and protection potions. And I'm sad to hear that HS change.

Here is what I said about 10 posts ago on the topic:

"I would like elemental protection potions and health potions not to be included though. The change is nice to stop chaining mana/ironshield/haste potions, but the concept of saving yourself with potions/stones/battlemasters I dont think should be diminished, even if it is only a minor change in that regard."

 

Marek

Healthstones have always been unique, which only means that you can't have two of the same size. Why would they suddenly share their uniqueness across different item ids?

 

panny

From my understanding, there are 2 cosmetic glyphs slots, 2 major slots and 2 minor ones.

I'm not really looking forward to chaining scrolls every attempt. The pot sickness debuff is a good change to reduce the tediousness of farming so I hope they don't replace it with scrolls.

 

Grizlor

Considering shamans and paladins have no spirit on their gear, nor talents to get increased benefit from it, the extent of our "mana management minigame" is limited to intelligent downranking and potion usage - both of which are being nerfed, it seems. I only get about 100 more mp5 outside of the 5Sr than I do inside it, unlike a priest or druid who can get 4-600 mana outside of it.

 

KamPa

Please remember that we'll be raiding Naxxramas in WotLK. I don't think farming shadow pots for Loatheb mk2 would be very welcome. Also, with 2 more classes with AOE heals, you'll have it easier anyway, unless raid damage once again reaches absurd amounts, Sunwell style.

 

Hatsu

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...gskirintor.jpg

This is interesting: a caster and a melee ring with a heartstone-like use effect that teleports you to dalaran, 1hr cd. Oh, and they cost 7600g each (new gold sink?).

 

webmeister

This change applies to rogue/feral druid energy ticks as well.

Also, Kick is no longer affected by the GCD.

 

dlanod

Looks like it. WoW Insider has them as 8000g minus any rep reductions, so 6400g at Exalted.

 

panny

Is this a good time to bring up Earth Shock

 

Switchblade

This change will save me so much frustration in PvE/PvP due to my high ping. It might be a hint that spell interruption will be playing a bigger role in future content (along with Dismantle).

http://ctprofiles.net/1031812

 

Zurgat

Great at least, now you can actually do dps continually while keeping a finger over the kick button, like on reliquary.

Energy ticks every 1/10th of a second.
Normally 20 per 2 seconds, so now you'd get 1 per 1/10th of a second and are only limited by your normal cooldowns.
Definitely will make our DPS more reliable, as you're no longer waiting for 2 seconds 35 energy in the bucket to get a sinister strike out. On the long term it makes no difference other than for your rotations, but those 2 seconds can be very critical if your opponent is almost dead. It can be quite frustrating to have them escape or heal in that time. Especially with the introduction of haste gear for spells.

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Jagiya

After seeing the kick changes, I logged in immediately and tested Pummel. It's also off the GCD.
EDIT: As you might have guessed, so is Shield Bash.
EDIT2: Mana is regenerating at the same rate as Energy, every 1/10th of a second. It's also regenerating whilst dead. Assuming this is a bug for the time being. I regenerated all of my mana during a corpse run.
EDIT3: Earth Shock is still on the GCD.
EDIT4: Shield Bash no longer deals damage; in-case people were concerned.

 

Benita

Tested this on the beta (before todays patch) and theres a new error message. Instead of "you already have an item of this kind" you get "you can only carry 1 healthstone". You can't have more than one healthstone in your inventory regardles of different ranks. I did not check if the better version replaced the worse version though.

 

Mydwych

From the information at wowinsider here, it seems the glyph slots are: 2xMinor, 2xLesser and 2xGreater. Also, I think I remember seeing that inscribers (is that what we're calling them?) get an extra glyph slot, although I can't put my finger on the source right now.

They've stated that Minor Glyphs are for 'small effects or cosmetic changes', but then go on to say that, along with the polar bear transform, druids have an option to fill up a minor slot with:

I agree that it would suck to have the polar bear glyph competing with stuff like this that has decent(ish) raid utility.

You can see the list of glyphs as it grows at wowhead here; most of them are druid ones, plus the mage penguin polymorph. Not all spells there are inscription glyphs, as the list includes the BC head enchants, and some of the inscription glyphs don't include details as to what slot they take. I guess wowhead will make a decent interface for this sometime soon, they're pretty good with stuff like that.

 

Ja7us

Earth Shock being off the GCD would have some odd implications for Elemental (and to a lesser extent Enhance) DPS, so that's likely the reason for that.

The new energy ticks are absolutely gorgeous. It's amazing how much more fluid the character frame looks now. Incredible change.

 

virtuzoso

I agree, this is awesome news for raiding. No more endless farming, but it also seems that there is less reason to be an alchemist than ever.

 

Ja7us

Well, since the new Alchemical Blood applies to flasks and elixirs (and thus is effectively "always on," since in all cases where you need your best, you are flasked or potted), it will be a passive stat boost that is likely very similar to what the other professions have. That only applies to raiding, of course; in PvP it's as useless as it ever was.

 

Malleus

Almost certainly not.

I'm not in the beta myself, so could someone please check if Charged Crystal Focus counts as a healthstone for this purpose? Right now they're an optional extra as you'll rarely use more than three healthstones in a fight, but one isn't always enough. If CCFs are the only way to have two healthstones, they'll pretty much become an essential raid consumable.

 

Ja7us

By the same token, assuming that Dark Runes / Demonic Runes are still usable on cooldown, the potion change will make them massively more powerful.

 

baghwan2

Potion sickness is welcomed step forward, but then the impending "Scroll buffs" sounds like a step backwards, is there any more information on these? They stack with today's tradition attribute buffs I believe, making them into a fairly standard raid requirement.

 

Tyrian

And a very welcome change it is. Now there is a genuine reason why people would want their main to be an Alchemist. (Excluding healers and their version of the stone, with chain mana potting)

 

Ja7us

If they're the same as the current scrolls in the game already, then Intellect, Stamina and Spirit scrolls do not stack with AI, Fort and DS, but the Agility, Strength and Protection scrolls stack with everything. Those scrolls are already available in-game, though; Inscription crafting them will just make them much less painful to obtain.

Edit: According to the latest WoR update, it looks like elixirs and flasks are getting a 15-20% boost when used by an alchemist. Assuming those percentages are right for all flasks and elixirs (right now they only have Major Agility / Fortitude elixirs up), that's around 12-16 spell damage for a Flask of Pure Death, which is weaker than ring enchants, but not by much (and you get the mana potion boost too).

 

Vasala

One thing which I would like to see with this change is for spell casting to not interrupt the swing timer for both shaman and paladins. Main reason for that is so both could go up and start auto attacking the boss while healing as a way to obtain mana restoration while casting. Neither class benefits much from spirit and neither has any x% mana regeneration continues while casting mechanics so allowing both to benefit from JoW on the boss would be nice. Though this solution will only work if Wrath does not have fights that penalize a raid for having many people in melee range.

I am just concerned that both of these casters will end up with significant mana issues in intensive healing fights even with mana shield for shaman and Divine Plea for paladins. Though a lot of this won't be easy to see until raid testing for Wrath begins.

 

Zurgat

Depends how big the stat boost is.
If you look at [Elixir of Major Agility] or [Flask of Relentless Assault], even a 10-25% boost in effectiveness wouldn't make me pick up alchemy. If you see the effects you can get in WotLK from blacksmithing, jewelcrafting, skinning and enchanting, then you'd be looking at a 25-40 extra stats for each of those professions.

Alchemist's blood would need to give at least a 30-40% boost to potion effects to be competitive, depending how "big" the elixirs and flasks in WotLK are. Would it apply to all effects, or just the "always on" stat boosts?

Anyway, this is in the other thread too (professions) : The WotLK profession thread
15-20%, still useless.

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