zoombini

Source? I'd be sort of surprised if they removed it - there still needs to be a place for RNG screwage in fights.

 

Lanlaorn

We tanked the adds next to him for easier transitions between each add. But fine, even if you tank his disciples out of LoS, melee DPS still hits Raz himself. It was annoying on my mage just to sidestep when Big Wigs let me know it was coming, for melee I would think it would be considerably more time consumed and I was simply wondering if in a 10 man where concievably ALL your DPS could be mana based, this was going to see a change.

 

levk

I think they'll just do away with the whole manaburn mechanic. You might not have any priests for a ten man and that's something to ponder.

 

McTurok

I'm pretty sure Raz let a yell out before hand so you could then do a sidestep out of LOS. Either way there are fights more melee friendly and others more range(mana) friendly.

I hardly think taking all mana dps to 10 man Raz would be something Blizzard should change this fight around.

 

McTurok

This is true, they could take it out for 10 mans but leave it in for 25 mans. Or just make it less of a manaburn for the 10 mans.

Personally I can't wait to see what the new Naxx will be like. Very much looking forward to clearing it all again.

 

Liebestod

Kind of an aside, but as things continue to shape up... does anything think this Lake Wintergrasp thing is actually going to work? I'm pretty skeptical at the moment. Does Blizzard envisage there being constant PvP? Is there any solo content at all there to bring people out, kinda like AV? Maybe daily quests? It just seems like an elaborate version of Halaa, which while fun at times, was just something of a random distraction on my server. It seems like Blizz is putting a lot of effort into this, though, and it'd be a shame to see it fail.

 

Axanor

They actually seem to be modelling it on the Spirit Towers in Terrokkar, with timed events each day, rather than the continuous grind of Halaa.

 

Rumor

The elemental plateau of northrend will also be present in Lake Wintergrasp, which also flags you on entry.

 

zoombini

And Blizzard said that "No one will ever be required to go in there if they don't want to". Yeesh, that place is going to be nasty . . .

 

• Chicken

No one will be required to go there. There'll still be other places to farm your various elementals; Lake Wintergrasp is just going to have an area with a high concentration of high level elementals.

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Talgog

AV with all the since-removed, nerfed and made-irrelevant weapons and NPC's was actually a blast. It just wasn't a good way of getting honor.

 

• Vykromond

Sure, why not? Honestly at this point it sounds pretty good. The biggest concern I would have is that if they share all of the resources (siege vehicles, destructible buildings) between Wintergrasp and Normandy, Normandy might get all the traffic.

 

Darkrenown

I don't have a link handy but I've read that too, the spell hit cap is being reduced to 9% and it's all removable. That's why all the +spellhit talents are being reduced.

 

Starfire

Would it? You could just let your warrior tank or feral tank use the orb. Making the item exclusively use mind control spell ensured that a non-traditional tank did it... priests are either dpsers or healers, not tanks.

To me, it was this element that -made- the fight. The fight was terribly simple (sans the 1% resist, sure, but there were/are ways around it... which also added to the fun... seriously, think how trivial the fight would be if you didn't need contingencies).

I think though, a good way to keep it in the "spirit" of things is maybe to perhaps make it so the adds were two humanoids an two demons... so it could either be done via priest mind control or warlock enslave.

 

Mikari

Beta is being updated to another new build, so we should be getting some more changes soon. They seem to be sticking to the 1 build a week like in TBC beta.

 

Zedd

Taken from MMO-Champion.

allthough I want to take it with a grain of alt, but a black dragon in the chamber of aspects opens up another route to a "Sunwell-Type post Arthas Instance" with Deathwing...

 

Tuftears

This.

The long wait time for AV is what made it considerably less fun. Now it's got a much shorter queue time, but it's also far more 'race'-style, which is a different sort of not-fun in my opinion. I'll be hopeful that they'll be reliving the goal-oriented model of PVP for Wintergrasp while also making it interesting if only a few Horde are in the zone versus 20 Allies, or vice versa.

The last is the really big question mark, since they're going to have to figure out a way to keep the outnumbered side from being wafflestomped.

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Liebestod

It'd be more like a "Sunwell-Type post-Arthas Instance" with a random non-black dragon (blue would be the obvious choice, but I could see Bronze or Green being done as well), given that the black dragonflight CotA is going to be the one implemented at release and thus there's no room for Deathwing.

 

bellator

I noticed there was a small patch this evening. I must have completely missed this if its being posted before and i guess it has (apologies if this is true). But whilst dpsing a mob i noticed this on the tooltip:-



Is this "Threat" mentioned an indication of an in game threat meter coming

Edit: Actually i'm pretty sure it's new as everytime i go to attack a mob "100% threat" pops up on screen. Surely i cant have missed that all the times i've played

 

Arrowmaster

Yes its new and we in the Omen/ThreatLib team are already investigating it and everything related to it in the new build. Even though most of us don't have our keys yet.......

 

Hylo

The new Threat-thingy shows in the floating combat test too. When grouped I got 100% treat, 66% threat and 140% threat floating on my screen (all at the same time btw..,)

 

Pyros

Meh I wonder if it's really supopsed to be that build that's up, no DK changes at all as far as I could see, and my mount is broken.

Edit: The threat thing seems to work. Tested with my ghoul, and every hit my ghoul landed, it'd show less threat then switched, then I took it back. Very preliminary tests, but seems to be conclusive, they're making an ingame threat meter.

 

bellator

The new client that went up is not 8719, so guessing a new one is going up later. Was a little odd to see a new patch just before theupdate

 

Joink

Current build is 8714, compiled july 30th. So none of the bugs from the build earlier this week are fixed.

 

Arrowmaster

So far from what I'm being told it looks like the percentages being reported are not exact percentages but instead just a way of displaying the 6 or so different possible values of one of the new functions. Even if this is not as much information as hoped for, its still enough to drastically improve the accuracy of threat meters and our understanding of the threat mechanics.

EDIT: I take that back, it seems the tooltip is showing different, more detailed, information than whats available from the API functions.