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Old 08/30/08, 2:53 AM   #6926
gia
 
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Genjuros (EU)


The 1 hour cooldown is interesting, I'm guessing its the cooldown on swapping glyphs?

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Old 08/30/08, 3:01 AM   #6927
flyingtoastr
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Draka
Hasn't been mentioned yet, but Judgement of Wisdom has been nerfed from the scaling value based on the Judging Paladin's stats to a flat 2% of total mana per proc.

Unless your judging paladin was horrible it's a decently sized nerfbat, though it does fit with the trend of moving scaling values away from the people actually providing the buffs to people getting them. Not sure on JoL yet though.

E: spelling

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Old 08/30/08, 3:43 AM   #6928
Dralmoo
Don Flamenco
 
Orc Hunter
 
Shadowmoon
so what does Judgement of Wisdom do now, without the ret talent? Return mana to everyone as it does now, but at a lower rate?

And if you do have the talent, does it do whatever that is, plus return mana to 10 raid members as described in the blue post?

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Old 08/30/08, 3:48 AM   #6929
Prinsesa
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Echo Isles
Judgements of the Wise causes Judgement casts to proc the Replenishment buff on 10 raid members, restoring 0.5% of their maximum mana per second.

Judgement of Wisdom causes spell, ranged and melee hits against the target to restore 2% of the attacker's maximum mana (with a 4 second internal cooldown?)

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Old 08/30/08, 4:59 AM   #6930
Grizlor
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Eonar
Looks like Wind Shock got added to the shaman lineup, supposedly to both serve double duty as both a 'feint-esque' ability and a rank 1 earth shock replacement. Unfortunately, at 8% base mana, it's only a bit less than half the cost of a max rank earth shock which would probably hit for 1500ish. I'd still say it's a fair trade-off if it's off the global cooldown like other interrupt abilities.

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Old 08/30/08, 5:42 AM   #6931
glowacks
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Troll Shaman
 
Ravencrest
Originally Posted by Grizlor View Post
Looks like Wind Shock got added to the shaman lineup, supposedly to both serve double duty as both a 'feint-esque' ability and a rank 1 earth shock replacement. Unfortunately, at 8% base mana, it's only a bit less than half the cost of a max rank earth shock which would probably hit for 1500ish. I'd still say it's a fair trade-off if it's off the global cooldown like other interrupt abilities.
Doing no damage and being an interrupt would point it to being off the GCD, since I believe every other interrupt ability was changed to do no damage and be off the GCD as well. The fact that their interrupt was the only one to deal damage (and significant amounts if not downranked) and thus need to stay on the would make Shaman's interrupt work entirely different than the rest. Thus, while Wind Shock can be seen as a replacement for Rank 1 Earth Shock, it's probably more about bringing it in line with other interrupts.

If it costs only half as much as Earth Shock though, it seems entirely too expensive compared to Kick & Shield Block. However, Counterspell is likely to go way up in mana (was basically free before since there was only one rank learned at a low level) as well, making mana-based interrupts expensive in the long run compared to their energy and rage equivalents. But given that those classes may have to give up some of their offensive potential to make them available on demand (like WS and CS) may be a reasonable trade-off in Blizzard's view.

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Old 08/30/08, 6:47 AM   #6932
Trifle
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Cenarius
To be fair, casters have to give up some of their offensive potential to make them available on demand too, albeit in a different way. If a mage is casting a fireball, and has to /stopcast 2 seconds in to counterspell.. he just gave up 2/3 a fireball's worth of damage, which is similair to a rogue holding back a little bit to keep energy free for a kick.

Sort of.

(eg. obviously doesn't apply if you're just jumping around spamming arcane blast like half the idiot mages in BGs, but then you're also nerfing your damage...)

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Old 08/30/08, 7:05 AM   #6933
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Test
new titles updated

Achievements Titles

Arena Master - Complete the arena achievements

Salty - Complete the fishing achievements

The Diplomat - Raise your reputation level from unfriendly to exalted with Timbermaw Hold, Sporeggar and the Kurenai / The Mag'har.

The Hallowed - Complete the Hallow's End achievements

The Seeker - Complete 3000 quests.


Feats of Strength

Twilight Vanquisher - Participated in the realm first Sartharion the Onyx Guardian kill (25 player).

The Supreme - First player on the realm to achieve level 80.

Assassin - First rogue on the realm to achieve level 80.

Warbringer - First warrior on the realm to achieve level 80.

Archmage - First mage on the realm to achieve level 80.

Of The Ebon Blade - First death knight on the realm to achieve level 80.

Stalker - First hunter on the realm to achieve level 80.

The Malefic - First warlock on the realm to achieve level 80.

Prophet - First priest on the realm to achieve level 80.

Crusader - First paladin on the realm to achieve level 80.

Arch Druid - First druid on the realm to achieve level 80.

Of the Ten Storms - First shaman on the realm to achieve level 80.

The Magic Seeker - Participated in the realm first Malygos kill (25 player).

Conqueror of Naxxramas - Participated in the realm first Kel'Thuzad kill (25 player).

Of Gnomeregan - First gnome on the realm to achieve level 80.

Of Quel'thalas - First blood elf on the realm to achieve level 80.

Of Argus - First draenei on the realm to achieve level 80.

Of Khaz Modan - First dwarf on the realm to achieve level 80.

The Lion Hearted - First human on the realm to achieve level 80.

Champion of Elune - First night elf on the realm to achieve level 80.

Hero of Orgrimmar - First orc on the realm to achieve level 80.

Plainsrunner - First tauren on the realm to achieve level 80.

Of the Darkspear - First troll on the realm to achieve level 80.

The Forsaken - First forsaken on the realm to achieve level 80.

Grand Master Blacksmith - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in blacksmithing.

Grand Master Alchemist - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in alchemy.

Iron Chef - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in cooking.

Grand Master Enchanter - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in enchanting.

Grand Master Engineer - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in engineering.

Doctor - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in first aid.

Grand Master Angler - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in fishing.

Grand Master Herbalist - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in herbalism.

Grand Master Scribe - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in inscription.

Grand Master Jewelcrafter - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in jewelcrafting.

Grand Master Leatherworker - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in leatherworking.

Grand Master Miner - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in mining.

Grand Master Skinner - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in skinning.

Grand Master Tailor - First player on the realm to achieve 450 skill in tailoring.

Hero of Northrend - First player on the realm to gain exalted reputation with the Argent Crusade, Wyrmrest Accord, Kirin Tor and Knights of the Ebon Blade.

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Old 08/30/08, 9:09 AM   #6934
Ukerric
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Dwarf Priest
 
Dalaran (EU)
Originally Posted by gia View Post
The 1 hour cooldown is interesting, I'm guessing its the cooldown on swapping glyphs?
It is a cooldow per glyph. If you've used a specific glyph, you can replace it instantly, but you can't put the same glyph back for one hour.

If the price on the real recipes (almost all glyphs have a placeholder recipe, only a couple of low level glyphs had their real reagents), then a glyph costs about a bit over a potion/elixir. And they stack. So glyphs are definitively "permanent consumables".

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Old 08/30/08, 10:29 AM   #6935
Roywyn
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Roywyn
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Can anyone check whether Stormstrike (Shaman) and Rune of Razorice (DK) still apply school percentange mob debuffs?

Chaotic Meta Gems in Cataclysm: http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t106009-...2/#post1794256

DPS spec and class comparison in Naxxramas gear: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...i/SampleOutput
The Blue Bar and you - the complete Fire Mage 2.4 mana compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/658230-post3191.html

And [Timbal's Focusing Crystal] doesn't proc on AM.
Neither does [The Egg of Mortal Essence] since 3.1.

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Old 08/30/08, 10:33 AM   #6936
Frah
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Human Mage
 
Frostmane (EU)
Cant say im overly happy with the achievements myself. Pretty sure most of them achievements will end up in the hands of the top 1-2 guilds on every realm which seems a little unfair. They need to add cool titles for tons more random stuff that people who are not decked in sunwell gear dont get a head start on or dont have a guild banks recourses for boosting.

not that i can think of any myself tho

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Old 08/30/08, 11:53 AM   #6937
Valerian
King Hippo
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Blackhand
Originally Posted by Frah View Post
Cant say im overly happy with the achievements myself. Pretty sure most of them achievements will end up in the hands of the top 1-2 guilds on every realm which seems a little unfair. They need to add cool titles for tons more random stuff that people who are not decked in sunwell gear dont get a head start on or dont have a guild banks recourses for boosting.

not that i can think of any myself tho
I'd imagine there will be other titles as well. Notice the first couple of titles on that list were not limited quantity ones and were some cool (like raising those 3 reps from unfriendly to exalted). Much as I'd LOVE to have some of those titles I don't foresee myself being the first to do anything. I don't think its wrong to give a nice flavour reward to those who do though.

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Old 08/30/08, 12:08 PM   #6938
Smurrf
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Human Paladin
 
Lothar
Out of curiosity, is there a table anywhere with approximately how much exp a full run through all the instances gives? It might be interesting to know for those who'd prefer to instance their way through to 80.

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Old 08/30/08, 12:41 PM   #6939
Shuror
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Haomarush (EU)
Originally Posted by Roywyn View Post
Can anyone check whether Stormstrike (Shaman) and Rune of Razorice (DK) still apply school percentange mob debuffs?
Even if they are working currently, they will almost certainly be changed in a similar way to for example Improved Shadowbolt or Expose Weakness, only affecting the caster.

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Old 08/30/08, 4:03 PM   #6940
kulz
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Stonemaul
I wonder if they'll check for account sharing on all server first to 80. I'd imagine people would pay a pretty significant sum to get unique titles.

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Old 08/30/08, 7:05 PM   #6941
Cuer
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Tauren Druid
 
Earthen Ring
There will be a number of titles available via Achievements that anyone can obtain, if they put in the time. For example, there will be an "Ambassador" title, for characters who are Exalted with all 5 of the starting cities on their side.

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Old 08/30/08, 7:49 PM   #6942
Lanlaorn
Piston Honda
 
Human Death Knight
 
Khadgar
It's a shame that some of the really cool titles like Doctor and Archmage are going to be obtained by the "take a couple days off work/school and pull some all nighters" approach, but I guess that can't be helped.

I hope there are some more class specific titles in the future.

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Old 08/30/08, 7:54 PM   #6943
Mikari
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Moo
Dwarf Priest
 
Bloodhoof
Can anyone with this mount on beta say what it changes to, or if this is even in the current build?

Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal : Description changed from 'Summons and dismisses a rideable Qiraji battle tank. This is a very fast mount.' to 'Summons and dismisses a rideable Black Qiraji Battle Tank. This mount changes appearance depending on your location.'

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Old 08/30/08, 9:09 PM   #6944
Kaubel
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Mal'Ganis
QUIT FUCKING CRYING THAT CASUALS ARE GETTING SCREWED ON ACHIEVEMENTS.

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Old 08/30/08, 11:40 PM   #6945
Mikari
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Moo
Dwarf Priest
 
Bloodhoof
Interesting finds in the Globalstrings.lua file for build 8885

GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP1 = "Reach Level 15 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP2 = "Reach Level 15 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP3 = "Reach Level 30 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP4 = "Reach Level 45 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP5 = "Reach Level 60 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP6 = "Reach Level 60 to Unlock";

ITEM_ACCOUNTBOUND = "Account Bound"
I wonder what items are going to be account bound.

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Old 08/31/08, 12:38 AM   #6946
Addled
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Draenei Shaman
 
Moonrunner
Originally Posted by Mikari View Post
Interesting finds in the Globalstrings.lua file for build 8885

GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP1 = "Reach Level 15 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP2 = "Reach Level 15 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP3 = "Reach Level 30 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP4 = "Reach Level 45 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP5 = "Reach Level 60 to Unlock";
GLYPH_SLOT_TOOLTIP6 = "Reach Level 60 to Unlock";

ITEM_ACCOUNTBOUND = "Account Bound"
I wonder what items are going to be account bound.

Blizzard discussed a few months ago having high-level players earn twink gear for their low level toons, so they could level up faster. This might be it.

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Old 08/31/08, 12:50 AM   #6947
Ashen
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Tauren Druid
 
Firetree
Originally Posted by Lanlaorn View Post
It's a shame that some of the really cool titles like Doctor and Archmage are going to be obtained by the "take a couple days off work/school and pull some all nighters" approach, but I guess that can't be helped.

I hope there are some more class specific titles in the future.
I think the Achievements system, ultimately, caters to various sorts of gamers. It's really a great approach to help fulfill the thirsts for all players, from Hardcore to Casual, just in different ways, and the system lends itself to being highly renewable, with added Achievements for times when the existing content gets dull. There just have to be some Achievements that lend themselves to those who commit themselves to being at the front of all content. When that content is essentially going to be tuned down to be consumed by other players, this type of reward is pretty neat to see.


Originally Posted by Mikari View Post
Can anyone with this mount on beta say what it changes to, or if this is even in the current build?
I would imagine, the strong possibility, of this mount becoming several things. As it is Legendary, and it is a Beetle, could it possibly gain the ability to fly?

Additionally, lore-wise, the Qiraji and the Nerubians are ancient, former relatives, manipulated by their respective Old Gods (C'thun and Yogg-Saron) into their more sentient and warrior like nations. There's the huge possibility that your Qiraji mount can manifest a Nerubian form. I searched for awhile today, to see if anyone had written more about this, but nothing seems to have surfaced yet.


Originally Posted by Kaubel View Post
QUIT FUCKING CRYING THAT CASUALS ARE GETTING SCREWED ON ACHIEVEMENTS.
Win.

Originally Posted by Caniki View Post
Hey guys, I heard that Blizzard puts out these things called "patches" that contain "content"
Originally Posted by Darkside View Post
Yeah but it hasn't happened since Ulduar.

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Old 08/31/08, 12:57 AM   #6948
P51mus
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Gnome Warlock
 
Drenden
Originally Posted by Mikari View Post
I wonder what items are going to be account bound.
I bet they'll make scrolls for enchants that they don't want going on the AH account bound. Then people will be able to enchant alts/mains with an enchanter on their account instead of having to find someone else to do it (which can be hard when it's a rare enchant). That's my guess, anyway.

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Old 08/31/08, 1:16 AM   #6949
Emeraude
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Sargeras
Obvious account-wide items would be items that attune you for certain instances and such.

Onyxia's Neck, UBRS key, any keys for heroic dungeons, etc.

At least that's what they were mentioning in regards to account-wide stuff at Blizzcon.

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Old 08/31/08, 2:43 AM   #6950
novasphere
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Tauren Druid
 
Argent Dawn
Originally Posted by Mikari View Post
Can anyone with this mount on beta say what it changes to, or if this is even in the current build?
I heard a while ago during some PTR build that the item suddenly summoned a Wasp when in Outland.

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