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Old 07/18/08, 7:46 PM   #5501 (permalink)
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It's hard to believe that the Tuskarmageddon achievement is real. Are there even hostile Tuskarr you can kill at all?
 
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Old 07/18/08, 7:46 PM   #5502 (permalink)
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Perhaps the Tuskarr carry their children around witht hem, so when you kill one you are actually killing 10 (or something like that). Either that or it is really one of those "fun" goals that you can't really reach.
 
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Old 07/18/08, 7:51 PM   #5503 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Talgog View Post
Death Knight gameplay available here:

Wrath of the Lich King - Death Knight - Videos

Either they have tuned up health regeneration on beta to get higher level Death Knights more quickly, or Death Knight health regeneration needs a serious nerf. Mowing down Anderhol of all places with zero downtime and about as much movement on the health bar is crazy.
You should have seen us Unholy/Corpse Explode DK's in Alpha. Or the Hungering Cold/100% crit with frost spells talent/Howling Blast combo's.

We wiped mob packs of 10+ with 5k+ crits .

Blood DK's are pretty solid solo grinders indeed, though I went for a hybrid build atm as that served me well in Alpha - plus they nerfed CE quite harshly with it costing 60 RP now so no more sploitz :/.

Originally Posted by flyingtoastr View Post
Perhaps the Tuskarr carry their children around witht hem, so when you kill one you are actually killing 10 (or something like that). Either that or it is really one of those "fun" goals that you can't really reach.
There's actually a few evil Tuskarr around, and one quest involves killing them and taking their cubs for... re-education purposes (well, there were anyway, in the Dragonblight). So at least you won't have to flag at war with a faction that the rest of your faction will want to use or wipe out neutral towns.

I'm quite sure there will be people doing this.
 
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Old 07/18/08, 8:10 PM   #5504 (permalink)
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People doing it, sure. People actually completing it...
 
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Old 07/18/08, 8:29 PM   #5505 (permalink)
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Hey, if people bothered to hit exalted with the Shen'Dralar..
 
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Old 07/18/08, 8:30 PM   #5506 (permalink)
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There's zero way the Tuskar thing will go live. It's probably a slightly warped joke put in by a dev.
Wasn't there a guild called the Seal Clubbers Club that had their name forcibly changed that generated a lot of wow forum nonsense? I'd imagine it was a reference to that. Baby Seal Club as a reward would generate tons of negative publicity for them.
 
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Old 07/18/08, 8:54 PM   #5507 (permalink)
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Perhaps it's a way for blizzard to phis for bots. If not, it should be.

 
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Old 07/18/08, 9:46 PM   #5508 (permalink)
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You know that just like the draenai jokes in BC, so many of those names aren't going to go live. "They Love Me in That Tunnel" is almost enough to make me want to go farm Timbermaw Rep.
 
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Old 07/18/08, 10:55 PM   #5509 (permalink)
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It's worth noting that the progress bar on Tuskarrmegeddon is 0/10,000, not 0/1,000,000.
 
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Old 07/18/08, 11:14 PM   #5510 (permalink)
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Just saw this screen on WOTLK Wiki:


They claim its a Titan, if so, that would be a first right?
 
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Old 07/18/08, 11:29 PM   #5511 (permalink)
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I think it's just a similar entity to Archaedas in Uldaman, a giant servant to the Titans . I imagine a real one would be a fair bit more impressive, and Jotunn is the name of a giant in Norse mythology.
 
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Old 07/18/08, 11:30 PM   #5512 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Cranberry View Post
It's worth noting that the progress bar on Tuskarrmegeddon is 0/10,000, not 0/1,000,000.
That's actually fairly reasonable, especially if there's some kind of epic reward at the end. Clearly only aimed at compulsive achievement finishers, or if it's linked to something else.


I ended up killing about 2,000 Nagrand ogres for my Talbuk mount, so 10,000, while sounding excessive, isn't too bad. I wouldn't do it, though, unless there were at least 2-3 epics/a ton of gold as a reward.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 3:09 AM   #5513 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by flyingtoastr View Post
Tuskarrmageddon - Mindlessly slaughter 1,000,000 Tuskarr. Reward: Baby Seal Club

How about 1,000,000 Boars [south park ftw] ?


That is just crazy.

Personally i mostly like:

Naxxramas: Kel'Thuzad Hardcore - 20 people (25 person) In the 25 person mode of Naxxramas, slay Kel'Thuzad with only 20 people

Naxxramas: Kel'Thuzad Hardcore - 8 people (10 person) In the 10 person mode of Naxxramas, slay Kel'Thuzad with only 8 people

Challenging achievements are great.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 3:18 AM   #5514 (permalink)
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I wish they would go further, and add undermanning achievements to more content. I would love a "Do every heroic with 3 people" challenge to look forward to.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 5:37 AM   #5515 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Liebestod View Post
Hey, if people bothered to hit exalted with the Shen'Dralar..
At level 70 it really ain't that hard. It takes more time to get exalted with WSG. (Speaking from personal experience.) Imo they should add achievements for those kind of factions as well, instead of just the "usual" ones. Also, they should add a new achievement for have been both exalted with Aldor and Scryer (and also gives a lot of points) because that is the hard thing to do, not being exalted with just either of them. It's quite a pain for me personally as I sold all my Aldor mats I collected on my alt a few weeks ago.

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Old 07/19/08, 5:38 AM   #5516 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ja7us View Post
I wish they would go further, and add undermanning achievements to more content. I would love a "Do every heroic with 3 people" challenge to look forward to.
They have to be careful about that, it would be far more doable for some classes than others to 'underman' content, not sure they want to make that even more clear with achievements. Although some of the new class stuff in wotlk is pointed directly toward making all classes more viable in all situations of course.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 6:00 AM   #5517 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Norfair View Post
At level 70 it really ain't that hard. It takes more time to get exalted with WSG. (Speaking from personal experience.) Imo they should add achievements for those kind of factions as well, instead of just the "usual" ones. Also, they should add a new achievement for have been both exalted with Aldor and Scryer (and also gives a lot of points) because that is the hard thing to do, not being exalted with just either of them. It's quite a pain for me personally as I sold all my Aldor mats I collected on my alt a few weeks ago.
Unless I'm very wrong it's impossible to hit exalted with both the Aldor and Scryer's. Any quest for either faction causes you to lose twice as much reputation as you just gained with the other faction.

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Old 07/19/08, 6:09 AM   #5518 (permalink)
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not twice as much but more.
I Think I get 250 Rep on 1 side and lose 275 an the other. Its still impossible but...
 
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Old 07/19/08, 6:17 AM   #5519 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chicken View Post
Unless I'm very wrong it's impossible to hit exalted with both the Aldor and Scryer's. Any quest for either faction causes you to lose twice as much reputation as you just gained with the other faction.
I believe he means hit exalted with scryer, then hit exalted aldor, or vice versa, not hit exalted with both at the same time.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 9:07 AM   #5520 (permalink)
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I really like the Battleground oriented PVP ones. They give new objectives to aim for in BG's, and encourage some people to still fight even when you're down. Or give you something else to do when you're getting slaughtered.

"The Sickly Gazelle In Alterac Valley, kill an enemy in the field of strife before they dismount"


Nothing more fun than achievements like that.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 9:23 AM   #5521 (permalink)
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Just having a look over the feats of strength and found this:

Malygos Slayer Server first Malygos kill

Doesn't look good for Malygos, you'd expect it to be 'Liberator of Malygos' if we were 'making him sane' as it were.

Of course i could just be reading a little bit too much into it.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 9:33 AM   #5522 (permalink)
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Zarhym states here that:
Achievements for killing creatures currently work in the same manner as quests which require players to slay creatures. For instance, if one has slain 10 Spore Bats before picking up a quest asking one to slay 10 Spore Bats, 10 more must be slain. In the same regard kills will not apply retroactively in the achievement system. While some facets of old content certainly aren't visited as frequently as they used to be, these achievements are still entirely possible. We feel it may provide incentive for players to tread through older zones and instances.
I suspect that's going to annoy a lot of long-time players, who feel the need to go back and do something that is now trivially easy, just to prove their history. Of course some things remain genuinely hard, regardless of when they were accomplished. So I think Blizzard need to be careful there isn't a backlash among players who feel cheated by not having former achievements recognised.

Some achievements are linked to items, so should be easy to retrospectively award. Except some items aren't BoP, so even that approach may be flawed, and the achievement will have to be flagged based on looting. For example, some of the "Deadliest Catch" requirements are not bound, so could simply be traded endlessly, making the achievement worthless. (In case you are wondering, achievement specifics are listed in a separate file, which others seemed to have skipped over.)


A footnote on the Titan picture posted above: It masks the scale. Everything in that picture is huge.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 9:40 AM   #5523 (permalink)
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WoR has added some screenshots of in-game Dalaran (which is now more than just untextured models): World of Raids | WotLK Info -- Part 1

Things to note:

- Roleplay/Fluff items: Pet leashes and pet 'fetch balls'. With 2.4.3, non-combat pets have received levels... I suspect we're up to more pet fun. Blizzardogs in patch 3.4, anyone?

- As somewhat suspected, Dalaran is a 'portal city' like Shattrath (I wonder if Shattrath will get a new portal to Dalaran?). I hope the Dalaran mages are a bit more careful with opening a portal to Outland this time around...

- The "Trespasser!" debuff is interesting. One of the complaints of Shattrath (and maybe Outland in general?) was the lack of Alliance/Horde rivalry. It looks like Dalaran is not a Sanctuary zone, but a divided city. We know from WWI there's an arena in the Dalaran sewers (and of course there's the Violet Hold instance), so Dalaran may be a more interesting city than Shat. Plus, human/high elf architecture looks much better than those Draenei rocks.

- Mage Trainers in Dalaran. Of course, it's the city of mages, but maybe they'll actually have class trainers in the neutral capital this time around.

- Wait.. that is an outland skybox they are using for Dalaran, right? Looks like Nagrand or Netherstorm skies to me.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 10:04 AM   #5524 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Camaris View Post
WoR has added some screenshots of in-game Dalaran (which is now more than just untextured models): World of Raids | WotLK Info -- Part 1

Things to note:

- Roleplay/Fluff items: Pet leashes and pet 'fetch balls'. With 2.4.3, non-combat pets have received levels... I suspect we're up to more pet fun. Blizzardogs in patch 3.4, anyone?

- As somewhat suspected, Dalaran is a 'portal city' like Shattrath (I wonder if Shattrath will get a new portal to Dalaran?). I hope the Dalaran mages are a bit more careful with opening a portal to Outland this time around...

- The "Trespasser!" debuff is interesting. One of the complaints of Shattrath (and maybe Outland in general?) was the lack of Alliance/Horde rivalry. It looks like Dalaran is not a Sanctuary zone, but a divided city. We know from WWI there's an arena in the Dalaran sewers (and of course there's the Violet Hold instance), so Dalaran may be a more interesting city than Shat. Plus, human/high elf architecture looks much better than those Draenei rocks.

- Mage Trainers in Dalaran. Of course, it's the city of mages, but maybe they'll actually have class trainers in the neutral capital this time around.

- Wait.. that is an outland skybox they are using for Dalaran, right? Looks like Nagrand or Netherstorm skies to me.
Dalaran looks nice, I just wish the person taking the screenshots had the video options turned up.
 
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Old 07/19/08, 11:00 AM   #5525 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by timski View Post
I suspect that's going to annoy a lot of long-time players, who feel the need to go back and do something that is now trivially easy, just to prove their history. Of course some things remain genuinely hard, regardless of when they were accomplished. So I think Blizzard need to be careful there isn't a backlash among players who feel cheated by not having former achievements recognised.

Some achievements are linked to items, so should be easy to retrospectively award.
If the achievements to acquire Sulfuras, Atiesh or Thunderury aren't retroactive I wouldn't expect a mass of peop