LucidityAxel

How much SR does your guild use on Kaz'Rogal? We got our first kill tonight and stacking at least some SR seems to pretty much be a no-brainer for the mana users. I've heard that the BT neck plus two pieces of gear is a good rule of thumb, and I'm wondering how other folks approach it.

How much emphasis does your strategy place on getting both Thrall and the Tauren into the fight? We just tanked him near Thrall and didn't do anything fancy to get the Tauren involved, but it seems like every little bit of dps would help.

 

Renew

Why didn't you use the Tauren, it's a no brainer. There is a reason you keep them alive throughout the clear. We gather Thrall up and take Kaz to the Tauren camp.

It's doable without, but with them it becomes a lot easier on everyone.

Confidence is not Arrogance.

 

Clandestine

Our healers wear like 2 pieces crafted and the neck. We tank him between Thrall and the Tauren and just kill him with whatever comes.

 

Mirai

I'm wearing 165 SR with the BT necklace and the Night's End cloak (crafted one). In conjunction with shadow prayers you'll get a healthy 40%(?) resists. I'm using the same amount at azgalor as well. Actually, every healer does. One out of 8 healer resisting something is the key to the hyjal fights. Same goes to archimonde, since his fear is a shadow based spell.

Everyone got the neck and the cloak is cheap like hell and together with the shadow resistance enchant probably the best trade to a "normal" epic on that slot.

 

Ren

Our guild's mana-users use full SR. Our server was being unstable at the same time when the authentication server was down on Monday, and we lost five people to disconnects right after the 8th wave before Kaz'rogal. We 20-manned him with little difficulty due to SR. Resisting multiple mana burns completely trivializes the encounter.

 

Clandestine

Archimonde's fear is not resistable through resistances - it is only resistable due to AoE or fear specific resistance talents.

 

Namaste

Our mana users just use the BT neck and their standard DPS gear. I don't resist everything but the only time I run OOM is if I don't resist anything at all which has only happened once. We use the same strat Renew posted above of picking up Thrall and getting the Tauren involved.

SR won't help at all on Archimonde, I'm pretty sure the only things that will help you resist fear are class talents such as a priest's Unbreakable Will

 

Skulli

We tried using full shadow res (331 with buffs for me atleast) on Kazrogal and Azgalor last week.
I resisted almost every Manaburn and i got silenced maybe twice during Azgalor.
It helps a lot and the stats are not that important at Kazrogal for a healer (not healing intensive).
Not sure if its worth to use shadow res as caster on Azgalor. Dont know if the dps loss during silence is bigger than full dps with shadow res gear.

 

Ghando

I use cap SR on Kaz'rogal and I get cranky whenever I DON'T resist a mana drain. On Azgalor I don't usually wear SR because it's a more healing-intensive fight, but if the silences are causing deaths for your guild then it makes sense.

 

Russta

Our casters only use Medallion of Karabor with Prayer of Shadow Protection on and we've had no real issues on either fight. The only person that ever runs out of Mana on Kaz'rogal is our Enhancement Shaman.

I am curious though how people handle the adds on Azgalor now that Thrall can get involved. Our strategy has been to kill the first two, being sure to get the Tauren Warriors involved, then having them all offtanked over the back with the Troll Shamans while zerging Azgalor down. Aside from the odd person being unable to loot him, it's worked well.

 

berg

Melee Shaman and Pallies should wear a considerable amount of Shadow resist on Kaz. DPS is zero if you are standing 100 yards from the raid waiting to die so trading as much gear as possible makes sense.

It can still be an issue no matter how much SR you wear though. Last week I do not recall even potting. This week I ate 2 75-100% burns in a row. So you still have to be careful no matter what.

 

Natural

Start the pull at Thrall then drag him to the Tauren. Works fine.

 

Nuke

Not using any shadow resistance items,only resistance from the SR buff. Also taking as many npcs to the fight as you can,helps.
And on Azgalor,idea of using SR seems silly. Gimping healing and regeneration just to resist the silence effect on a boss which even without silence hits hard,is not good. Although i am a priest and i got 15% innate resistance.

 

Clandestine

Are you really going to run OOM wearing 2-3 pieces of SR on Azgalor? My understanding is that his DPS on the tank is actually not very high, it's just very bursty. It's a pretty fast fight as well, especially now that you can just have Thrall zerg him.

 

rits

Our caster dps and healers put on their Medallions of Karabor after the eighth trash wave. As for shadow resist, that's about it. We haven't really found the need for more. Some of our casters (particularly shadow priests) will start getting low somewhere around 20%, with some healers hitting bottom around 10%. Usually a couple casters will take some explosions, but it will rarely one-shot them. For our past few kills, by the end we have about 1 or 2 casters die. As dps increases from gear upgrades, this will become less and less of an issue.

So, if your mana-users happen to have SR gear lying around, sure, I guess it helps. But if they don't, the fight is still very doable with just your BT attunement neck.

 

Nuke

Whats the point of using SR items on it? Just to try preventing silence? The effect of SR in case of silence is utterly small. In case of Kaz'rogal its more or less understandable,but for Azgalor it looks to be really overrated.

 

Clandestine

I really don't see any reason NOT to wear SR when the MT / raid are only going to die because you're silenced, not because you're oom or not putting out enough HP/S.

 

Renew

No fights in Hyjal are mana intensive, so there is no reason not to use some SR when it actually works (don't use it on Archimonde) and can save people from dying.

Confidence is not Arrogance.

 

Bver

I think the only person that wears SR is our Ret Pally Grant, since his mana pool is so low. Other than that we do it w/o any SR gear.

oops

 

Nuke

Everyone else except MT shouldn't have a reason to die.

 

gatzu.

Are you dumb? You have two choices as far as gear goes...

a) end the fight with full mana and have low chances to resist silence

b) end the fight with half mana and resist more then half of the silences

 

Nuke

Usually finishing up with 10-15% mana and some of the silences resisted.And i assume its you, who got only those 2 choices,so face facts straight. Also,why you arent wearing full SR gear then,if it doesnt hurt that much. With 300 SR you will resist all the silences.