On our first kill we didnt use any SR gear since we didn't have any, these days, I atleast always wear full SR and mana is never a problem.
So try to max your SR, atleast as a resto shaman.

I don't know if it was luck or anything, but we basicly had medallions on our casters+shadow prot buff , and imp. conc. aura from pallies. One shotted(2 wipes on learning trash) the boss in alittle longer then 3 minutes.

What is improved concentration aura going to do against a mana burn?

Anyone else is finding the trash REALLY annoying? Especially waves 1-5, the next ones are very easy, but somehow, as long as we can do any other waves in hyjal with closed eyes without loosing a single person, the wave 3,4,5 we find very difficult, dps-wise.
Maybe we are missing something tactic wise, what we are doing is spreading tanks/healers/dps into two groups, and a hunter tries to engage thrall/taurens. Dont know what we could change, we tried also going as 1 group, clearing front then back - but it was even worse.
Any tips?

The trash for kaz'rogal is the most brutal for us aswell, The trash for Azgalor just doesn't seem half as bad, The infernals are stupidly easy to tank/dps i guess..

If you just wear all your SR and can get over 380 resist you might get mana burned once during the fight, maybe twice. As a healer I would strongly recomend doing that if you have made the gear already.

For Azgalor I wear it all except the leggings because it takes away a set bonus. I might get silenced 2 or 3 times during the fight. Divine Shield makes it so if you get silenced at a bad time you can still do something about it.

We have a group of ranged + a couple of healers head over there for the appropriate waves. Get the NPCs involved etc., and as the main pull progresses, more people can join in to finish them off. Healing is trivial if you have a couple of ranged to 'tank' them -- actually a healer can tank them fine too since the damage is nothing.

We just have all the melee stay down with 2 healers. The rest of the raid goes up to kill them. When they're dead, they come back down to finish off the rest if the mobs at the entrance aren't dead yet. Works well enough.

We have all of our ranged go up on I believe the second wave that has 10 gargoyles, leaving the melee to kill the ghouls down below(they come up when they're dead). Then on the fourth wave that has less gargoyles we have 3 ranged and two healers pull them down to the raid who have been aoe'ing/killing the crypt fiends in that wave. When the gargoyles are down at the raid, they are aoe'd or single targeted based on how they're spread.

I wear near full on both, resist plenty of silences, plenty of mana burns.

Proper pre-healing + cancel casting + alchemist stone/pots makes mana basically a non-issue.

2 hunters and a warlock go up, grab them all and pull them down, tanks pick them up and we AE the lot of them down. Usually the tauren pick 2 up themselves and beat them to death fairly quickly. For some reason trying single target DPS caused us to enter the next wave with 3 gargoyles up and all the ranged people pretty far away *shrug*

You don't want to outrange the War Stomp because then he uses Thottbot World of Warcraft: Cripple.

I'd prefer the War Stomp myself I were melee'ing him :P.

I'm pretty sure you can still get crippled while getting war stomped (standing in the same place all fight, I got 3 cripples and still took most of the war stomps: dukes - WWS (see debuffs).)

In all our kaz'rogal kills I did try lots of turning and moving around his hitbox to try and avoid the war stomp as suggested by the bosskillers tactic. Until today I am not sure if I am trying to convince myself there is a way to avoid or there is no way

It looks like that even when you find the furthest spot to melee him you still get hit which basically makes it highly interesting why it was written in that tactic that war stomp can be avoided

We've been having a lot of trouble with rain of fire on azgalor. Do your melee wear fire resist and how do you deal with the rain of fire + silence in general? We aren't having a problem keeping the main tank up, but our DPS can not stay alive. Basically any advice for Azgalor would be great .

Does Kaz'rogal gain spell penetration as the fight gets longer? We recently crafted all of our shadow resist gear and since then have most of our healers wear this gear for Kaz'rogal. A bunch of us noticed last night that towards the beginning and pretty much until around 30% last night we resisted every single mark, but after that all of us took the last 5-10 marks he did in a row. It could have just been a random coincidence but it seemed kinda weird that we would all resist literally every mark for the first 70% and then take literally every mark after around 30%.

I know the Marks come faster and faster as the fight goes along. Just wondering if anyone else has some insight into this?

Yeah, I mean, we definitely do all the obvious stuff. Is it just a case of us needing to get better healing/spreading out or are there some good "tricks" people use to minimize the damage from rain of fire coupled with silence on everyone. Does anyone run more than 7 healers? Dedicated healers? Fire resist (besides totem/aura)?

We run 8-9 healers on Azgalor. World of difference.

I died quite alot at first on azgalor despite using fire protection potions it's a huge amount of damage and it's quite nasty towards warriors (no CloS) and we take 10% more dmg while dps'ing unless we change stance alot.

I ended up wearing 4 pieces of epic fire resistance gear and the ring from magtheridon, reduced the fire damage i took during the fight by 50% on our last kill and ive never died wearing fire resistance gear.

Seconding this post.

I guess there isn't an Azgalor topic for this to go into - but I would suggest making it clear to people that Azgalor isn't a DPS race per se, but a survival race.
If everyone uses everything they can to stay alive, you will kill him. If half your DPS dies due to RoF you will probably wipe.
Get Fire Protection Potions and make people save them for RoF and Silence combos since you are likely to have most healers silenced and unable to help them.
If you have any Paladin's with Improved Concentration Aura you can pop them with healers to knock a second or so off the silence - nothing ground breaking, but it can all help in saving people from death.
Make sure you tank him such that there is plenty of room to spread around him.

On topic - it doesn't seem you can outrange the Warstomp, but then again the incoming damage on the tank is trivial with so little raid healing required, that you really should not die from being stunned.

/sign

We ran 8 and ended up one-shotting him on our first attempt ever. More healers makes this fight much more stable.

Did you have any problems getting through the trash with less dps? We're having a lot of problems with trash too as it is. Is single target a better idea for Azgalor trash in general? We generally destroy Rage-Kaz trash with predominantly AOE (melee on necros/banshees), but Azgalor trash is just causing all sorts of problems.