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Old 08/31/07, 5:07 AM   #126
Cesar2000
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Yes Recount works, but I believe the druid must have it installed to work.

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Old 09/01/07, 5:50 PM   #127
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Going back to the trinket Lifeblooms mentioned earlier. I can only speculate that a nerf for it is inevitable, seeing as how it wrecks the healingmeters. Same for keeping your Lifebloom rolling when you have the Carrion Swarm on Anetheron. It's just a matter of time really.

Looking at the sheer amount of raw healing a Druid can do on Hyjal trash for example seems to me as insane. I guess it should be classified as being overpowered.

WWS Report - Hyjal Trash (We wiped to Anetheron trash once or twice though)

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Old 09/01/07, 6:35 PM   #128
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Originally Posted by Melador View Post
Speaking of lifebloom -- anyone tried keeping a dementia lifebloom rolling on a tank all the way into a Mother pull? Seeing as keeping a single one going (I had 2912 on a warlock last night) is pretty much mana-neutral it might be worth it if you get the buff on the last pair of sisters.
We went into Shahraz this week with a 2100 bloom ticking on our tank. Of course the druid got ported like 15 sec into the fight and it dropped off because he was out of range. Oh well.

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Old 09/01/07, 6:43 PM   #129
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My suggestion of keeping it rolling from Gurtogg keeps getting pushed aside however .

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Old 09/01/07, 11:24 PM   #130
okla
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Funny you mentioned that, we had the same on our Mother kill this week, tank was topped up the entire fight basicly.

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Old 10/01/07, 6:00 AM   #131
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Hi there, just to be sure^^ wich trinket do you use guys?=).

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Old 10/01/07, 6:03 AM   #132
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Old 10/01/07, 8:33 AM   #133
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[Essence of the Martyr] [Oshu'gun Relic]

I haven't had the heroic Mana Tombs one drop yet and the green dragons are always down on Gorgo (at least everytime I check).

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Old 10/01/07, 9:07 AM   #134
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Offtopic:
Lo guys.
I've been reading the forum for some time now and i read very nice posts from all of u.

That being said, lets get back ontopic:

Atm i have 1920 healing (unbuffed) with 3/5 T5, 2/5 T4, Mace from vashj, trinket from badges and the one that drops in BM.

Fully buffed in Hyjal Summit i get around 2100 healing and rolling a ~250 lifebloom tick. With trinket i have around 2.4k and rolling a ~300 lifebloom and i ahve to agree with all of u that stacking 2 resto druids in a very intense tank/raid dmg fight we are prolly one of the best healing classes due to being able to stack 3x lifebloom on 3-4 targets. Which is insanely godlike.

For a note i just wanted to give a tip for resto druids when u start a fight always throw a lifebloom on tank since the final boom of the lifebloom = threat for the tank (really helps) then u can start stacking up lifebloom.

For better raid healing its best to try to get 4/5 T5 and the idol from the PVP that increases that lifebloom boom with +120+150 from setbonuses which is really nice.

Overall the way i like to heal is throwing a lifebloom wait around 2-3 sec then put a rejuv on main tank, put a lifebloom on OT renew the lifebloom on MT, renew the lifebloom on OT then put a rejuv on OT then again (by this time the lifebloom on the MT should be gone) again go on MT with lifebloom then REJUV and repreat this stuff will help u easily stack 3x lifebloom on 2 targets and rejuv. I've tried to stack lifebloom + rejuv on 3 targets but prolly to my pretty high latency (~150-200ms and GC) i cant do so i usually go with 2 targets lifeblom+rejuv and the 3rd with 3x lifeblooms.

If you want to keep 3targets all the time fully HoTed you wont be able to heal the raid without loosing the stacks on those targets.

Thats why we bring 2x resto druids (one fully focused on tanks) and the other one on raid and people who get dmg.

In conclusion lifebloom is the best healing spell for resto druids along with swiftmend (this saved our MT from death COUNTLESS TIMES. for a note i crit 6k on rejuv+swiftmend).

Thanks again for nice threads u have around here and people feeding this threads with very good posts.

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Old 10/01/07, 1:14 PM   #135
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Originally Posted by chall View Post
*snip*

For a note i just wanted to give a tip for resto druids when u start a fight always throw a lifebloom on tank since the final boom of the lifebloom = threat for the tank (really helps) then u can start stacking up lifebloom.

*snip*
You need to go and test your theory here as all the testing I have read has different conclusions to what you just stated.
Please don't post misinformation and if you really think it works that way test it and provide the results.

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Old 10/01/07, 1:29 PM   #136
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Originally Posted by Aciara View Post
[Essence of the Martyr] [Oshu'gun Relic]

I haven't had the heroic Mana Tombs one drop yet and the green dragons are always down on Gorgo (at least everytime I check).
Would killing Ysondre for the Hibernation Crystal be worth it?

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Old 10/01/07, 1:55 PM   #137
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If you want to maximize trinketed lifeblooms, I'd say do it. It's a pretty easy kill (we kill her about once a week with 5-6 people) and nets you a decent amount of gold even if you don't get the Hibernation Crystal.

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Old 10/02/07, 7:18 AM   #138
MOO
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Originally Posted by Cluey View Post
You need to go and test your theory here as all the testing I have read has different conclusions to what you just stated.
Please don't post misinformation and if you really think it works that way test it and provide the results.
I guess you have read alot of "data" on this. I haven't - in my opinion it's pretty clearcut. The lifeblooms final bloom/tick gets counted as the targets own heal - just look at the combat log. Hence is the target low on health, he will get .5x threat per healthpoint healed.

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Old 10/02/07, 7:42 AM   #139
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Originally Posted by MOO View Post
I guess you have read alot of "data" on this.

Actually, I was equally surprised when the tests were done, they are described best in this thread:
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t12192-d...ifferent_heals

Specifically post post #38 and below.

I cant seem to find any conclusions though, but the possible outcomes seems to be that either:
Lifebloom expiration is no threat.
or
Lifebloom expiration is threat to the healer.

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Old 10/02/07, 11:04 AM   #140
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I play in another guild occasionally on my druid which is just starting Black Temple, and on a lot of the fights I was a little worried about MT healing seeing as most of the tanks are quite a bit less geared than we were in Hellfish going into these encounters. Using 3 Resto Druids keeping up hot rolls on the tanks though has led to virtually no wipes due to tank death, and generally much faster first pull -> kill times because of it. I expect the mana efficiency or the coefficient to be nerfed soon though

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Old 10/04/07, 7:26 AM   #141
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, didn't see it in a search, but I'd just like to add this from a warlocks perspective:

Extra trees in your raid means people get the bonus that you otherwise might not expect to want it, but happens to do nice things.

Specifically, Warlock (fel armor) + tree druid + shadow priest leads to really impressive vamp embrace heals, which could help a lot if you're trying to overcome aoe damage.

The only concern I have is does all of this bonus healing hurt a shadowpriests threat further, or is the +healing % stuff done after threat calculation? (I know overhealing doesn't count for threat, but presumably with this set up you'd let VE heal you after lifetaps.)

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Old 10/04/07, 7:53 AM   #142
BeeLz
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This might not be related but I'd really like to know what happened on this screenshot.

http://users.pandora.be/optikill/WoW...707_140237.jpg

6000 lifebloom crit isn't normal right?

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Old 10/04/07, 8:18 AM   #143
Necto
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Originally Posted by BeeLz View Post
This might not be related but I'd really like to know what happened on this screenshot.

http://users.pandora.be/optikill/WoW...707_140237.jpg

6000 lifebloom crit isn't normal right?

hard to see without knowing your current buffs.

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Old 10/04/07, 8:25 AM   #144
BeeLz
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No berserking, No arcane power, maybe a trinket up but that's all.

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Old 10/04/07, 8:38 AM   #145
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Only posibel way of reaching that would be a Dementia lifebloom as far as i can see

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Old 10/04/07, 8:54 AM   #146
Necto
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Originally Posted by Ragnorr View Post
Only posibel way of reaching that would be a Dementia lifebloom as far as i can see
Ported away from RoS with buff on?

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Old 10/04/07, 10:00 AM   #147
BeeLz
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I kinda doubt that since it happened in Alterac valley.

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Old 10/04/07, 12:44 PM   #148
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Power Infusion? Or do you have the Spell Power talent in Arcane for 50% more crit power?

Edit: Never mind, you have WE, so that would be impossible.

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Old 10/04/07, 2:23 PM   #149
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That's really bizarre. It looks like the druid who cast the lifebloom that you stole is specced for balance. It's gotta be some sort of combo between some balance talent (though I can't imagine what one would make a difference, perhaps vengeance for extra damage on crits), and some mage talent being applied to the same spell.

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Old 10/04/07, 2:24 PM   #150
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF View Post
That's really bizarre. It looks like the druid who cast the lifebloom that you stole is specced for balance. It's gotta be some sort of combo between some balance talent (though I can't imagine what one would make a difference, perhaps vengeance for extra damage on crits), and some mage talent being applied to the same spell.
Right, but he doesn't have that Mage talent (because you can't have both it and WE at the same time).

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