Yeah I did see mentioned that he couldn't have had Spell Power, so it could be some frost talent.

It's probably some really unlikely combo causing the bug, like if a druid has vengeance and a mage has ice shards then somehow both will be applied multiplicatively to healing when a lifebloom is stolen and maybe only when certain trinkets are active.

Kinda like how unstable affliction was causing judgment of light to heal for more, it's not a bug that's obvious or simple to figure out the cause

When a mage spellsteals a lifebloom afaik ALL the lifeblooms remaining ticks are added up into one big heal and the mage then gets this heal. This would afaik also be the only way to explain such a value, because even with KT legendaries I don't know how one could end up so high in +heal value.

/edit Forgot, my mage friend who I was doing AVs with noticed that something was fishy with his stolen lifeblooms (i.e. they were only ticking once and for VERY high ammounts). I think he said it used to be different and that this was taking place since the last patch (this was before 2.2, so maybe since 2.1.2?).

Sorry for the slight diversion, but I was curious if anyone could comment on the idea of using 3 restoration druids in a raid/guild. For the longest time, we've run with 0-1 resto druids, and just recently added a second one. So far I've liked that combination on fights with spike damage on the tanks or predictable raid damage (as covered earlier in the thread).

We've just had yet another solid app, and I'm curious as to whether guilds have considered using 3 and what their experience has been to this effect?

Out of curiosity, are many guilds treating the druid tree aura as a necessity in tank groups for any particular fights? We typically run 2 resto druids, and we're almost always in shadow priest groups.

As somewhat an aside to the degree a guild is relying on lifebloom, I think we found out first-hand last night how valuable it is on certain encounters. Our resto druid (Melador) was late for the raid and wasn't in for our Illidari Council kill last night. He usually accounts for about 20% of the effective healing on that encounter and it really showed how valuable lifebloom is. For example, our mage tank was dipping considerably without a 3-stack lifebloom on him taking up some of the healing stress. I was honestly shocked how much our guild actually relies on lifebloom without even realizing it.

We have used three on many, many raids.

I think it's perfectly viable. Resto druids are flexible enough that they can fill a number of different roles, and the utility of battle rez and innervate stack very well. Of course it has advantages on some fights and challenges on others, but we've done every encounter in SSC and TK (haven't beaten Kael yet, but soon!) with no difficulty using this setup.

3 Restoration spec druids can work just fine, especially if your guild brings Retadin, Enhance/Elemental shamans regularly. I personally would never choose to have a raid with less then 3 paladins and 3 shamans, and almost never want more then 8 healers. So if 3 or 4 of those 6 people are non-healer spec'd, the usefulness of a 3rd tree druid is incredibally high.

Druids are overrated, am I right Tib?

99% of the time I'm in the MT group. We really only run 1 resto druid, what would the benefit be to having them in the shadow priest group(s) unless you were on a fight where everyone was taking damage (Najentus and a couple of other fights I could maybe see) and the tree form bonus would be a nice benefit to stacking with VE. I'd like to get another resto druid in our raids.. but it's hard to drop Paladin/Shaman healers and at least 1 priest is necessary.

The benefit is for the mana returned to me, basically. If I am in a shadow priest group (which can essentially give me unlimited mana) I am able to keep full-stacked HoTs on the tank and still do a tremendous amount of healing to the raid.

We 95% of the time have 2 trees, so one tree gets MT group duty and the other gets to be with a shadow priest (assuming more then 1 shows up) or in the spellsurge healer group. We pretty much decide on the spot the few nights only 1 shows up about which group. The other healers like the bonus on the MT, but since most of that just goes on to overheal anyway it's not so big of a deal.

If you're just casting lifebloom and nothing else, you can do it now. If you wait until the last second you'll get one tick of full spirit regen while keeping it up. If you do this you're out of the five second rule 25% (or is it 20%) of the time

An interesting note, lifebloom final heal crit percentage is probably drawn from the person it is casted on. I had a lifebloom trigger my [Sextant of Unstable Currents] while on my warlock.

Last night my guild's resto druid managed to get a 3k/sec lifebloom going on the last priestess and maintained it throughout the entire Mother fight. I kind of regret not screenshotting it, but at the end of the fight he had (one resto druid) accounted for 70% of the MT healing.

It is, like Earth Shield. If something counts as a heal by the person it affects (see final Lifebloom ticks, Earth Shield, Healthstones) it takes their crit rating and any crits from that effect will trigger relevant procs.

I understand the usefulness of a shadow priest. The way I run raids typically has all of the other healers with a shadow priest (we usually run 3 shadow priests) and I'm usually the one getting innervates. I have about 240 mp5 while casting which climbs up to around 2000 or so with an innervate, there is really no reason for me to be in the shadow priest group. If any healers should be in the shadow priest group it's paladins. Priests and druids can benefit a great deal better with an innervate, nothing makes me cry more than a paladin begging for a vate.

We run with two or three resto druids (myself and another normally, plus we just recruited a third) and we're almost always at the top of the healing charts, just due to being able to roll the lifebloom stacks. In ideal circumstances (Tidewalker, Hydross, Magtheridon, etc.) where we can each roll a lifebloom stack on the tank for the duration of the fight with no mana issues, that's about 700 health per second per druid that the tank gains, theoretically.

In reality, with a lot of people healing the tank, it doesn't quite work out to so much but it's definitely a lifesaver. The other healers can notice the difference in healing a tank when we're down to a single tree just in terms of how much more they have to heal the tank. If you've got a feral who is willing to do it, that's great - but we had a surplus of ferals at one point and tried talking one into going tree and he hated it. Definitely takes the healer mindset.

When you spell steal a 3x stacked lifebloom you take the entire 3x stack. Except if you recast, that will recast too.

You essentially had a x6-9 lifebloom on you, with triple the final heal.

Hello.

First, I'll describe our guilds situation. We're fairly casual raiders (killed Solarian and Void Reaver in TK and Lurker in SSC). A couple of days ago one of our resident ferals decided that he's going to spec resto to help the guild out.
We never really had a resto druid in our raid and I'm kind of confused about what his role is supposed to be. Should he be healing the tank(s) by rolling lifebloom and throwing a rejuv+swiftmend here and there if there's raid healing needed or focus solely on raid healing?
I'd appreciate some suggestions.

Apologies for my bad english.

I myself find that it works best to always roll Lifebloom on the tank, even when raidhealing. On some fights, I focus only on the tank with Regrowth/Rejuvenation as well, but on most boss fights I just keep Lifebloom rolling (and if the fight isn't too intense also Rejuvenation) and spam Regrowth and other hots to cover random raid damage.

For boss fights we have our 2 resto druids soley on the MT where we stack lifebloom, rejuv and regrowth, keep an eye on our swiftmend cooldown and toss lifeblooms out if needed.

For trash I typically pick 3-4 tanks and keep lifebloom on them. Sometimes other HOT's, sometimes not. Our other druid usually will throw regrowth around the raid in general and maintain lifebloom on only 1-2 tanks. Part of it is personal preference.

That being said, due to the large amount of time it takes to get "decent" healing set up for a druid (4.5 seconds per target for lifebloom and it's a good amount of healing too) I wouldn't expect to send a druid raid healing. I'd much rather have a shaman, priest or paladin raid healing due to chain heal and faster casting.

The tanks should be their primary focus. If mana isn't too much of a concern and they can manage their lifebloom stacks on the tank(s) then they should help out with the raid as well.

Which is exactly why the "ZOMG NERF LIFEBLOOM!" whining posts will fall on deaf ears