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10/08/07, 5:38 PM
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Piston Honda
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BT trash change?
I tried searching a ton, but the search feature on this board is not robust enough. I keep getting pages of unrelated posts and threads, so if this was answered some where else, I apologize.
Can anyone else confirm if the trash before supremus (specifically the taskmaster packs) has had their loot table changed? We would previously farm those packs, leaving one mob up and then evade leashing them to respawn the rest of the pack (borderline exploit maybe, I know). Since patch, tried to farm these packs a few times, and only got a couple hearts the first time through, no gems/epics. The next two times, we spent about an hour each time without a single heart/gem/epic drop. Total of 5-6 hours of farming, no gems/epics and only 2 hearts in the first half hour of attempts.
It's a relatively small sample size, but with the previous droprates, the chance of not getting more hearts or a single gem/epic is pretty slim. It's entirely possible we were just unlucky, but statistically it's a low probability. Anyone else experience a similar situation? I wouldn't be surprised if they found a way for those mobs to not drop anything if they were reset, just curious since we don't want to waste any more time farming if they aren't gonna drop hearts or gems.
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10/08/07, 5:40 PM
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#2
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Soda Popinski
Tauren Druid
Twisting Nether (EU)
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Overall it seems the BT drop rate has been lowered slightly to balance the gain of items in Hyjal, of which I believe has generally been noticed in this thread.
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Originally Posted by Vontre
I don't know anything
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10/08/07, 6:12 PM
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#3
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Soda Popinski
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How many players did you bring?
Chances are they put something in place to prevent "exploitive" farming with the early trash. Could be related to the number of players or just the first trash
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10/08/07, 6:13 PM
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#4
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The beatings will stop once morale improves
Nurru
Undead Priest
No WoW Account
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This weekend I saw 2 patterns, 6 hearts and 7 gems drop while solo/duo farming trash. Seems fine to me.
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10/08/07, 6:16 PM
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#5
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Break Your Crayons
Human Warlock
Tichondrius
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I have a feeling once this BT Trash soloing thing catches on it will be nerfed.
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10/08/07, 6:23 PM
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Bald Bull
Tauren Warrior
Kil'Jaeden
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Originally Posted by Roped
I have a feeling once this BT Trash soloing thing catches on it will be nerfed.
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I thought it has been "caught on" to for the last 4 months...
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10/08/07, 6:24 PM
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF
How many players did you bring?
Chances are they put something in place to prevent "exploitive" farming with the early trash. Could be related to the number of players or just the first trash
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More than 5, less than 15 each time, so you could be right.
Originally Posted by Nurru
This weekend I saw 2 patterns, 6 hearts and 7 gems drop while solo/duo farming trash. Seems fine to me.
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Which trash were you farming though?
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10/08/07, 6:39 PM
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#8
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Soda Popinski
Gwaiihir
Orc Shaman
No WoW Account
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We went farming the trash after Supremus, (Ashtounge patrols, and the mobs on the way to Teron) and received several gems, hearts, and the DPS warrior gloves. We only had 8 in the group at the time, as well. This was just this last Sunday, too.
We farmed all the packs before Supremus as well resetting the zone 3 times, with between 7 and 15 or so people. No epic items from them, but we did get hearts and gems.
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10/08/07, 6:47 PM
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Piston Honda
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We've been getting hearts and gems from the pre-supremus trash; the overall decrease in drops has given us streaky heart drops though. It definitely seems like trash isn't dropping stuff at times, then all the sudden a gem will popup.
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10/08/07, 6:48 PM
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The beatings will stop once morale improves
Nurru
Undead Priest
No WoW Account
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Judging by our experiences since the patch, they nerfed the drop rates on trash leading up to Naj'entus and Supremus. However, we get so many hearts in Hyjal that we're apt not to care (which was likely their intention).
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10/08/07, 6:59 PM
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Soda Popinski
Tauren Druid
Twisting Nether (EU)
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Side note, the NE trash after Archimonde dies is giving loot now.. and its constant spawn of 1-3 mobs every now and then is quite enjoyable.
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Originally Posted by Vontre
I don't know anything
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10/08/07, 7:03 PM
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Playered
Side note, the NE trash after Archimonde dies is giving loot now.. and its constant spawn of 1-3 mobs every now and then is quite enjoyable.
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Wow you can farm that really nicely with Tyrande's help...
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10/09/07, 4:14 AM
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Don Flamenco
Undead Priest
Talnivarr (EU)
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Yes, the spawnrate is slow.
We farmed the trash for like 2-3 hrs and the mobs keep spawning. Not sure when it ends.
But the breaks between each "wave" can be pretty long.
We got 3 epics (2 melee necks, 1 nethervoid cloak), 3-4 hearts and some marks, no gems.
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10/09/07, 9:10 AM
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Soda Popinski
Tauren Druid
Twisting Nether (EU)
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Originally Posted by Skulli
Yes, the spawnrate is slow.
We farmed the trash for like 2-3 hrs and the mobs keep spawning. Not sure when it ends.
But the breaks between each "wave" can be pretty long.
We got 3 epics (2 melee necks, 1 nethervoid cloak), 3-4 hearts and some marks, no gems.
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Ends on soft-reset of the zone 
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Originally Posted by Vontre
I don't know anything
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10/18/07, 9:54 AM
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Von Kaiser
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Curious as to whether the trash waves after Archimonde still exist?
Was looking around after our Hyjal clear tonight and could not find any mobs after 30 minutes, other than the scourge base near the alliance base which was not giving rep.
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10/18/07, 11:05 AM
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Von Kaiser
Undead Mage
Talnivarr (EU)
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Will check it tonight for you.
They spawn on the ramp down from the archimonde camp to thrall's camp.
If you stand at the top of the ramp you can pick em up straight away.
It works alright, but if you have more than 5 people it's boring as hell 
The spawns are on fixed timers so the faster you kill the mobs the longer you have to wait for new spawns.
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10/18/07, 11:36 AM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by weet
Curious as to whether the trash waves after Archimonde still exist?
Was looking around after our Hyjal clear tonight and could not find any mobs after 30 minutes, other than the scourge base near the alliance base which was not giving rep.
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Seems to be gone unfortunately, my guild had a productive 72 hours in there last week with one person tagging and 20 people afk with auto-clickers.
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10/18/07, 11:58 AM
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Bald Bull
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Seems to be gone unfortunately, my guild had a productive 72 hours in there last week with one person tagging and 20 people afk with auto-clickers.
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We killed archimonde thursday night and were in hyjal until sunday afternoon and we received ~8k rep. The rep averaged out to 150-200 rep per hour. Doesnt sound like much, but its 3-4k+ a day. Thats of course, in addition to the large amount of hearts and epics (at least 15 including patterns) received.
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10/18/07, 1:41 PM
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Druid
Lightning's Blade
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May just be bad luck for us 2 weeks in a row but after a full Hyjal and 5 bosses down in BT we walked away with something like 6 HoD and 5 gems or thereabouts both weeks.. seemed like pre last patch we were getting HoD or gems on every pull.
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10/18/07, 3:59 PM
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King Hippo
Human Paladin
Argent Dawn (EU)
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Originally Posted by Gruten
Seems to be gone unfortunately, my guild had a productive 72 hours in there last week with one person tagging and 20 people afk with auto-clickers.
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Since when? After we killed Archimonde on Monday, five of us stayed in there for around eight hours getting rep and drops. As someone said, it's slow but it's better than nothing especially considering only one person has to tag them and the rest can even be dead with a Homer Simpson Woodpecker stopping them being flagged AFK and disconnected.
With regards to the drop rates though, epics from BT trash definitly has been reduced. We only have Illidan left for this week and we've not gotten a single drop. Last week we got two, the week before we got four. Contrast this to pre-patch where we got ten epics before we'd even reached Gurtogg one week and it's pretty dissapointing. Gems and Hearts feel about the same but it definitly doesn't feel balanced out with Hyjal unless you wipe there a lot.
Oh and I'll see your trash exploits and raise you this.
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10/18/07, 4:15 PM
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Don Flamenco
Undead Priest
Talnivarr (EU)
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Well since this reset. Checked today and there was no trash.
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10/18/07, 4:16 PM
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Bald Bull
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We killed archimonde today and no npcs spawed after he died.
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10/18/07, 8:23 PM
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Von Kaiser
Human Priest
Tarren Mill (EU)
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Originally Posted by Tyrian
We killed archimonde today and no npcs spawed after he died.
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Same, killed archi this thursday and no mobs attacking afterwards. We even waited for a pretty long time 
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10/18/07, 9:50 PM
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Don Flamenco
Blood Elf Paladin
Black Dragonflight
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We haven't gotten a ring in like 3 clears. We get patterns and hearts like candy though. We get one, maybe two mob dropped epics per clear as well, usually the hammer or druid boots though.
We have however, gotten about 20 paladin tanking maces.
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10/19/07, 12:08 AM
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Bald Bull
Trouble
Blood Elf Druid
No WoW Account
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Obligatory Crimson Spinel bitch.
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