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Old 05/26/08, 2:41 AM   #301
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I dual box with an arms warrior / holy priest. With the warrior in full dps gear with sword/shield, I can kill it in the water before the fish respawn. Generally takes about 10 minutes to kill, with no real danger of dying. The only things to watch out for is heals going through just as the aggro wipe comes, but even then a quick taunt / fade usually does the trick.

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Old 05/26/08, 3:44 AM   #302
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I've 2 manned Gahz with me(warlock) and a holy paladin. I tanked it, pally just healed me. We just did underwater breathing and both lodged ourself under a tree root next to hakkar's temple thing. Took maybe 6-8 minutes or so?

Oh yea, and I was 0/21/40 sac'ing a felhunter, so i wasn't even soullink or anything. T6 geared both of us. Only thing that can really wipe me out is the triple attack and if 2 of them are crits or crushings, which does happen....I usually only use a healthstone, but multiple stone ranks and some heal pots would make it ez. Or even putting on some pvp/arena gear for stam/armor boost but i have very little.


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Old 05/26/08, 9:56 AM   #303
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Onyxia soloed.

Solo Onyxia By Serennia

One of the more impressive videos like this, imo.

Some people think that killing the warder add should be part of the fight, though. I don't, especially as whether it adds seems to be a matter of luck.

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Old 05/29/08, 4:58 AM   #304
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Just 2-manned all of heroic underbog with a resto druid (I'm a feral druid). Was all cake except for Black Stalker; the winning strategy we settled on was full-on DPS burn on the stalker to bring him down before the adds stacked too high. The resto held onto all the adds via healing aggro and rolled HoTs to keep us both up. I was in cat form with full DPS buffs (weightstone/elixir/scrolls) and the resto nuked as much as he could in the early portion of the fight, before the adds began to stack up. Took us around 5 tries. Really, the worst part was the brutal corpse run - getting from the graveyard to the instance, then stealthing up to the black stalker's room took almost 15 minutes.

Resto druid + rogue could probably beat black stalker without too much trouble really, assuming pretty good gear. The rogue would do far more damage than a druid when attacking from the front, and also has the advantage of Cloak+evasion when his healer dies to get those last few percent.

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Old 05/29/08, 8:26 AM   #305
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Originally Posted by Liebestod View Post
Onyxia soloed.

Solo Onyxia By Serennia

One of the more impressive videos like this, imo.

Some people think that killing the warder add should be part of the fight, though. I don't, especially as whether it adds seems to be a matter of luck.
There seems to be some question as to whether she was actually soloed in phase 2 from all the comments in the video. Did you watch the video? Is it clear she was soloed in phase 2? I'm not discussing the warder, just Onyxia.

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Old 05/29/08, 8:35 AM   #306
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Originally Posted by Mideci View Post
There seems to be some question as to whether she was actually soloed in phase 2 from all the comments in the video. Did you watch the video? Is it clear she was soloed in phase 2? I'm not discussing the warder, just Onyxia.
I posted the video before all those comments... I guess it was possibly faked. It's Avatar, so it wouldn't surprise me.

There's a Pally on the R+D forums now saying he soloed her (without help on the warder) and is uploading a video. I'm half-expecting a Rickroll, but we'll see.

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Old 05/29/08, 8:38 AM   #307
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The fight took almost 2 hours. I'm not sure if he actually solo'ed phase 2. Phase 1 and 3 look certainly doable (though I'm not sure why he didn't just went in treeform and used autoattack with some hardhitting 2 hander), but phase 2 looks iffy. It does look like he can handle the whelps alone, but he never showed any footage of actually hurting onyxia during phase 2. I know he can moonfire/insect swarm her, I'm just not sure if he had the mana/time to do it when killing the whelps continiously. I have to say that my memory is quite hazy though, how often do the whelps respawn?

edit: I've always expected a prot or holy paladin to be the first to solo onyxia or any of the other bosses pre TBC worldbosses. Plate armor, seal/judgement of light/wisdom, BOW and other kinds of regen. They just seem to be able to take the largest incoming damage if you couple their migation with their healing abilities. (That's why I was so impressed by xaviera soloing all those bosses)

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Old 05/29/08, 8:57 AM   #308
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Originally Posted by nfw View Post
Any tips on 2boxing Mana Tombs with a warrior+priest? Large packs containing more than 2 sorcerers or dark casters are pretty brutal, and I could not kill Tavarok, only got him to 18%. Basically the priest run OOM very fast healing Crystal Prison, is it resistable with NR?
Crystal prisons are far enough apart, and priest should not be getting any other damage, that a renew after each prison should be plenty to keep him alive.

I did Tavarok on heroic on my s1 geared resto druid with my girlfriend's feral tanking, less than two hours after she dinged 70 (ie in mainly quest reward gear). I think I drank one mana pot during the fight, and of course used innervate.. But if I'd had a pve set with more regen it wouldn't have been needed.

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Old 05/29/08, 1:16 PM   #309
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Originally Posted by Exewut View Post
The fight took almost 2 hours. I'm not sure if he actually solo'ed phase 2. Phase 1 and 3 look certainly doable (though I'm not sure why he didn't just went in treeform and used autoattack with some hardhitting 2 hander), but phase 2 looks iffy. It does look like he can handle the whelps alone, but he never showed any footage of actually hurting onyxia during phase 2. I know he can moonfire/insect swarm her, I'm just not sure if he had the mana/time to do it when killing the whelps continiously. I have to say that my memory is quite hazy though, how often do the whelps respawn?

edit: I've always expected a prot or holy paladin to be the first to solo onyxia or any of the other bosses pre TBC worldbosses. Plate armor, seal/judgement of light/wisdom, BOW and other kinds of regen. They just seem to be able to take the largest incoming damage if you couple their migation with their healing abilities. (That's why I was so impressed by xaviera soloing all those bosses)
Phase 2 is a giant pain - can't hit her so there goes the JoW mana battery. Holy shock is expensive as hell. I suppose it's still theoretically possible, just nobody cares to stay there for 8 hours. About the whelps, I either haven't noticed or forgotten, do they actually hatch from the eggs or just spawn in phase 2? If they hatch from the eggs (and there's a limited number of them), it's probably best to deal with them in phase 1 while you still have ony as a mana battery.

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Old 05/29/08, 1:27 PM   #310
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You can most certainly melee Onyxia in phase 2 now, I think it was changed either slightly before, or with 2.0.

I got her to the air phase solo as a resto shaman, but I have no meaningful way of dealing with whelps while also DPSing her. Only having fire spells to AE pretty much kills it.

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Old 05/30/08, 8:57 AM   #311
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I just did her 3-man with 2 rogues and a priest and we had a giant pain in the ass time getting her out of the sky. Her moving around, fireballing you, periodically deep breathing, and spawning whelps is what makes phase 2 hard. Phases 1 and 3 are laughable. I could come awfully close to soloing them on my rogue spec-ed subtlety and wearing dodge gear while carrying potions and using cloak judciously. A druid would find them laughable given the whole shift, HoT, shift, business. She hits like a prissy. You can easily afford to get whacked now and again. Or you can wait till she knocks you back, heal yourself while she catches up, move her off the wall, repeat. Her own mechanic makes self healing the fight retardedly easily.

No, you can't handle the eggs in phase 1, they just respawn. As far as I know, they in fact respawn during phase 2 as well so long as she's in he air.

I don't have any problem understanding how to handle the whelp spawns as a druid or paladin either. I have a tough time understand how you also run around the room and dps her out of the sky given you need to put about 250k damage on her as well.

The fact that the 2-hour "solo" feat lacks any evidence of the guy dpsing Onyxia during the only part of the fight where its hard to dps Onyxia.... Well...

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Old 05/30/08, 10:25 AM   #312
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Anyone have any tips regarding under-manning Geddon? Positoining, location of fight, class comp etc.

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Old 05/30/08, 12:47 PM   #313
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You would need a dispel for Geddon. He may hit hard enough to require FR on the tank (not sure, probably depends on avoidance and the healer's gear). So paladin or priest healer (or a paladin tank and any class of healer). Position both tank and healer against a wall somewhere to avoid fall damage from the bomb and whittle him down. Shouldn't need more than those two people to kill him, though it is, of course, going to take a long time.

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Old 05/30/08, 12:52 PM   #314
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I would 5 man him pretty routinely to finish off my bindings earlier in the year. We pulled him into the tunnel, where the walls are ramped up, so you get bounced into the ceiling by the bomb and take virtually no fall damage. Usually brought a couple rogues as they could cloak the bomb.

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Old 05/30/08, 12:54 PM   #315
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Originally Posted by Zupal View Post
Anyone have any tips regarding under-manning Geddon? Positoining, location of fight, class comp etc.
I've done Geddon with 4 before. Paladin(me), rogue, ret pally without FR gear, and frost mage. Didn't seem very difficult although I had to drink potions because it took a bit. The hardest part is when the healer gets the bomb because obviously you can't cast while you're being tossed in the air and back down. I imagine it would be a lot easier if the tank wore FR gear, but we didn't have any. You could probably do it with 3 or even 2, though it would have longer time for something unlucky to happen.

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Old 05/30/08, 2:14 PM   #316
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I wonder if a resto druid could solo Geddon in full fire resist gear by meleeing him down and hiding in bear (or cat) form to avoid the mana drain. Full regen/healing gear, and quick shifts to caster for rejuv+lifebloom to patch up the bomb and melee damage might actually work. You would, of course, need to find somewhere to fight him where respawns wouldn't kill you, because fighting him in that manner would take hours.

Edit: Just tried this; doesn't look like it's possible. I died on the third living bomb, and even with near-cap FR all three explosions hit for full damage. Looks like the bomb explosion's not resistable, and i doubt the application is either. A warlock might still be able to drain-tank solo geddon, though, Felhunter to devour Ignite Mana, or just tap through it... hm.

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Old 05/30/08, 2:32 PM   #317
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Originally Posted by Liebestod View Post
I posted the video before all those comments... I guess it was possibly faked. It's Avatar, so it wouldn't surprise me.

There's a Pally on the R+D forums now saying he soloed her (without help on the warder) and is uploading a video. I'm half-expecting a Rickroll, but we'll see.
Video has been uploaded. At least this particular kill is legitimate.

Paladin lays the solo smackdown on Onyxia - WOW Insider

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Old 05/31/08, 6:58 AM   #318
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Originally Posted by Zupal View Post
Anyone have any tips regarding under-manning Geddon? Positoining, location of fight, class comp etc.
Geddon is really easy to 2-man with tank + healer assuming you don't have repop.

Our method was to stand him in the middle of the tunnel, tank at max melee range in full FR, healer just shy of max range behind me in pure healing gear - the healer ends up being over 40 yards from geddon due to hit boxes, and thus won't be targetted by bomb or manaburn and it's pretty much just a long grind from there, took me as a prot warrior ~40 minutes to solo him down, took half a million damage from him, and an equal ammount from bomb + falling, bomb isn't resistible in any way, the fall in the tunnel isn't too bad, just beware that the healer may want to step in a yard or two from max range (ground) so they can heal when you're flying (hit boxes are large enough to still outrange everything he could do to the healer). In principle any healer would work if they could sustain that long, and all the tank needs is FR, a rogue would probably be even better than a warrior since they could cloak and shave down the fall damage alot.

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Old 05/31/08, 10:58 AM   #319
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Originally Posted by sashka View Post
Geddon is really easy to 2-man with tank + healer assuming you don't have repop.

Our method was to stand him in the middle of the tunnel, tank at max melee range in full FR, healer just shy of max range behind me in pure healing gear - the healer ends up being over 40 yards from geddon due to hit boxes, and thus won't be targetted by bomb or manaburn and it's pretty much just a long grind from there, took me as a prot warrior ~40 minutes to solo him down, took half a million damage from him, and an equal ammount from bomb + falling, bomb isn't resistible in any way, the fall in the tunnel isn't too bad, just beware that the healer may want to step in a yard or two from max range (ground) so they can heal when you're flying (hit boxes are large enough to still outrange everything he could do to the healer). In principle any healer would work if they could sustain that long, and all the tank needs is FR, a rogue would probably be even better than a warrior since they could cloak and shave down the fall damage alot.
The method looks sound...just curious about some possible difficulties:

Wouldn't you have a dog re-spawn in that tunnel or aggro a lava pack on the pull?

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Old 05/31/08, 1:36 PM   #320
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Not sure if this would count as ironmanning since we skipped all the trash and a boss but another Feral Druid and I used to stealth run the last boss in Sethekk Halls on heroic before they added stealth detection to the first boss. One of us would heal and the other would tank (on normal mode we would have one tank and the other dps and we would heal ourselves when he did his AoE). We did this every day for over a month and got loads of primal nethers (back when they sold for 150g+ each). Unfortunatly neither of us were enchanters so we couldn't disenchant any of the loot.

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Old 05/31/08, 5:05 PM   #321
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Originally Posted by Zupal View Post
The method looks sound...just curious about some possible difficulties:

Wouldn't you have a dog re-spawn in that tunnel or aggro a lava pack on the pull?
yea, we'd already killed mag and the lava pack, as i remember from at lvl you can ninja pull around the pack, tho it was tricky, dogs are a real chronic problem for any undermanning, tho if it was something other than a disorient dog the tank could probably just pick it up and kill while tanking geddon, the other possibility would be to circle through the lava, kill shaz, and fight geddon there, fall damage would be a bigger concern, but i think it would be an easier pull (and shaz is a fairly simple + fast fight), this assumes that at 70 you can avoid the dog on that side, which I really don't know.

Another option might be just tanking geddon in the lava - i don't think the overall damage from lava would be any greater than what I took from fall damage, and it would let you do a positioning with the tank in the lava and the healer on one of the outer side ledges.

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Old 05/31/08, 5:46 PM   #322
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Originally Posted by North101 View Post
Not sure if this would count as ironmanning since we skipped all the trash and a boss but another Feral Druid and I used to stealth run the last boss in Sethekk Halls on heroic before they added stealth detection to the first boss. One of us would heal and the other would tank (on normal mode we would have one tank and the other dps and we would heal ourselves when he did his AoE). We did this every day for over a month and got loads of primal nethers (back when they sold for 150g+ each). Unfortunatly neither of us were enchanters so we couldn't disenchant any of the loot.
You can still do this in a sense. A resto druid and I (feral) would do it whenever we got bored on heroic for a free badge. It's even better when Sethekk is the heroic daily because you kill the last boss and get credit.

When you get to the first boss who sees through steath, just have one druid strip naked and run along the left hand wall. The boss will aggro and the second druid sprints through hugging the right wall and ducks beyond the exit doorway. The bait druid delays long enough for the runner to get in place, then dies (in range of a battle res). It's possible to unstealth, battle res, and get back into stealth from the doorway without aggroing either the boss or the next pair of birdmen.

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Old 06/01/08, 2:02 AM   #323
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Originally Posted by sashka View Post
yea, we'd already killed mag and the lava pack, as i remember from at lvl you can ninja pull around the pack, tho it was tricky, dogs are a real chronic problem for any undermanning, tho if it was something other than a disorient dog the tank could probably just pick it up and kill while tanking geddon, the other possibility would be to circle through the lava, kill shaz, and fight geddon there, fall damage would be a bigger concern, but i think it would be an easier pull (and shaz is a fairly simple + fast fight), this assumes that at 70 you can avoid the dog on that side, which I really don't know.

Another option might be just tanking geddon in the lava - i don't think the overall damage from lava would be any greater than what I took from fall damage, and it would let you do a positioning with the tank in the lava and the healer on one of the outer side ledges.
Just did this with a feral druid in Illidan FR tank gear, me as holy and a poorly geared hunter alt. Fairly easy to down geddon in the hall within the 18 min respawn timer of the hound that paths down there. IIRC, it took us around ~12 mins to down him.

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Old 06/03/08, 7:45 PM   #324
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Golemagg?

So yesterday i whent to "solo" garr but whit my gear i failed i have 100% mitigation unbuffed took some pots to increase this, but my block value was abit low, 580 took around 100dmg from garr enraged and he whent down to 85%.

So after two manning him i was thinking. golemagg he aint that hard as boss, 2 adds they do nothing and golemagg.

Alltought the path seems really "hard" was thinking of invisibility pots but its quite hard as there is Baron you gotta avoid ,
any idea about some safe spots? or might have done this already?

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Old 06/04/08, 1:47 AM   #325
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Originally Posted by lekerol View Post
So yesterday i whent to "solo" garr but whit my gear i failed i have 100% mitigation unbuffed took some pots to increase this, but my block value was abit low, 580 took around 100dmg from garr enraged and he whent down to 85%.

So after two manning him i was thinking. golemagg he aint that hard as boss, 2 adds they do nothing and golemagg.

Alltought the path seems really "hard" was thinking of invisibility pots but its quite hard as there is Baron you gotta avoid ,
any idea about some safe spots? or might have done this already?
Golemagg is a joke, only reason we didn't kill him was I had to go run an errand, the only problem is that he takes FOREVER - 800k hp and you have to spend periods not attacking to wait for the stacking debuff to wear off, I estimated that killing him start to finish 2-man would clock in somewhere between 1 and 2 hours of mind-numbing monotony (also note that you probably need mag down because of a pat in his room).

As far as getting to him, you have to kill 1 quad pack for sure, then either a quad pack or 2 annih/firelords.

From the tunnel to geddon, jump in the lava to you right, swim ALL the way around, there's a small spot near sulf you can get up - be carefull, it'svery near a quad pack. Once in position, pull + kill the quad pack (easy with FR gear), then either kill the quad pack at the end of geddons bridgs and drop down, or go around the normal way and kill the 2 adds on the wall, once you have him, park in a corner and try not to fall asleep, possibly a good idea to bring an extra shield.

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