Shade of Akama question

Fekta · 10/23/07, 10:50 AM

Please delete. I found my answer in the Paladin tanking forum. Thanks.

Ridan · 10/23/07, 10:54 AM

We tried pally tanking once.

And the answer is:

Holy dmg seems to generate 0 aggro on the defenders.

Our paladin couldn't hold aggro on his main target.

Fekta · 10/23/07, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Ridan

We tried pally tanking once.

And the answer is:

Holy dmg seems to generate 0 aggro on the defenders.

Our paladin couldn't hold aggro on his main target.

Well that would explain it. Thanks.

Sorrowheart · 10/23/07, 11:12 AM

We just have a feral druid tank them - a FFF to grab their attention as they run towards Akama and then he just holds them in place the entire time. We don't have a protection paladin so we've never tried it, although it looks like Ridan is probably on the money with the "Holy damage generates 0 threat" if that's the problem you're having.

He probably got initial threat from white damage and then healers generated more threat globally.

PsiVen · 10/23/07, 12:46 PM

Unless it was changed, there's something more to it than just "holy damage = 0 aggro". I slung an AS at a Defender by accident once; it hauled ass back once it reached the middle, and the other tank had a hell of a time getting aggro from me.

Sapp · 10/23/07, 2:00 PM

Consecrate doesn't work on them, is what's up. They ignore it.

Judging on them and throwing a shield will pick em up though.

Really, this silly bug is what made our first shade pull not our first shade kill =/

It's easier to just use a feral, which kind of sucks. We're used to being dependent on a prot pally which meant having him not work kinda blows.

• Chicken · 10/23/07, 2:05 PM

Well, Prot Pallies still work well enough there to tank the other adds. One well timed Avenger's Shield and you grab all three of them pretty easy, and those don't ignore consecration.

Beren · 10/23/07, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by Chicken

Well, Prot Pallies still work well enough there to tank the other adds. One well timed Avenger's Shield and you grab all three of them pretty easy, and those don't ignore consecration.

Yeah, once we figured out how well a good prot pally is at tanking a side, this fight went from requiring 5 "tanks" for us, to only requiring 3.

Machia · 10/23/07, 3:14 PM

5 tanks?!? I couldn't see bringing more than 3 in ever unless you are missing key classes. But I guess if you don't have 2 mages + 2 hunters (nova + trap) that can make things substantially more difficult on your tanks. Also earthbind is nice as well.

Fekta · 10/23/07, 4:05 PM

Thanks so much for all the quick responses.

tangent · 10/24/07, 1:06 PM

A earth bind totem can replace a hunter trap if needed.
We use totems plus the slowing trap just because it makes the pick ups so easy.

Mneme · 10/24/07, 4:54 PM

Originally Posted by Machia

5 tanks?!? I couldn't see bringing more than 3 in ever unless you are missing key classes. But I guess if you don't have 2 mages + 2 hunters (nova + trap) that can make things substantially more difficult on your tanks. Also earthbind is nice as well.

We would do 2 tanks on each side with a mage sheeping an add on each side as well, and one tank in the middle picking up the defenders. Now I take the entire left side with the help of a trap, and we put 1 tank and 2 mages, or 2 tanks and 1 mage on the right side, and a tank in the middle holding the defenders. The only time I have issues picking up all 3 on my side are when Avenger's Shield misses, because they will just run right through consecration and charge someone random.

I originally tried to tank the defenders but I failed miserably, I just assumed I was doing it wrong. This actually makes me feel a lot better.

p.s. sup boss.