Patch 2.3 for engineers seems very profitable
I discovered that now there are "windy clouds" over Nagrand and they show up on the minimap. I flew around the map yesterday a couple of times and farmed 20 primal airs easily. I picked up a few stacks of herbs in the meanwhile. Mana and shadow can be extracted from clouds aswell, in Netherstorm and SMV. Epic flyer is a good bonus here, speeds up the gathering quite a lot.
Is there any way to get the clouds that are further up in the air (the ones not on islands obviously). I'm hoping its not just that the extractor is not usable in flight form :/
As many have stated before me, "exploiting" the patch notes is an absolute gold mine. I'm one of the lucky few that stacked up on Primal Shadow before the drop rates got nerfed. I bought around 600 at less than one gold each!
If you're Alliance you might like this little tip: Copper Ore/Bars sell for ridiculous prices (at least on the realms I play on), make a Gnome/Dwarf character, level it to 10 and just run around Dun Morogh mining the stuff. You can't move around the zone without at least one vein being visible on your minimap. I think Horde players can do the same in Durotar, but Dun Morogh is the king for mining.
If you're looking for effortless gold, don't let the dailies slip by. I don't bother with the Netherwing ones, they're a bit too grindy and drawn out in my opinion.
Is there any way to get the clouds that are further up in the air (the ones not on islands obviously). I'm hoping its not just that the extractor is not usable in flight form :/
Looks like about 3 cloud spots are bugged and they are impossible to farm (out of range). Also you get no mote but the node despawns when you attempt to extract motes with full inventory. I posted a bug report on EU forums.
It seems that blizzard heavily nerfed droprates of motes from low level outland elementals. So if you want to farm primal shadows for profit (good money if there is few BT pre-sharaz guilds on realm) go to Manaforge Ultris in Netherstorm.
The way I made a lot of money, was a bit back, I would just do circuits in Nagrand mining all I saw, and then get a friendly JC to prospect it all. Usual deal was he got to keep a gem of his own choice. The dust went to AH along with the blues, and all else (grey or green gems) was just vendored. This was back when green gems were worth more, and blue uncut gems usually sold for ~60g each. Later I got my mate to do some cuts, and sold em, when uncut prices dropped.
One thing to bear in mind is you apparently are more likely to get blue drops if you prospect when not so many others are doing it. At least that was what he told me. I guess this line of thought is related to the respawn/droprate discussion mentioned above.
But I must admit one of the best reason this paid off so well, is probably because I was home with a broken leg, so I could do my farming routines at night/early morning when not many else were online. In my experience, early morning is better than late night.
I've also grinded a bunch of water elementals in nagrand. Even tho the droprate is lower, so are the moblevels, and I found it to be practically never grinded by anyone else.
It seems that blizzard heavily nerfed droprates of motes from low level outland elementals. So if you want to farm primal shadows for profit (good money if there is few BT pre-sharaz guilds on realm) go to Manaforge Ultris in Netherstorm.
I don't know was there the other day and it seemed fine, made 3primals on one buff, so 30mins. Ultris has very few mobs imo, and they take longer to kill. Maybe you just had bad luck, or maybe I had good luck? I was there at 4AM if that matters tho.
As for people with JC, I have a mule with mining, would you say it would be worth dropping herb on it to get JC instead so I can do my own prospecting/cuts? Herb/Mine is nice but you can't really have a set path to check nodes, and you have to press a toggle macro the whole time which gets very tiring very fast, so was thinking of dropping it for engi or jc, but jc looks easier/faster to level.
You need 325 JC to prospect adamantite, so a minimum of level 50 (?)
Grinding your JC to 325 is something I don't ever want to do again, but there might be an easier way to do it. I did mine pre-range changes on the skillups. Plus if you get JC and have an enchanter alt, you can institute the ring de'ing scheme listed above. I'm trying it, just because I'm trying to upgrade 7 bags to imbued netherweave. Everything's been farmed, except for the enchanting mats, and I did not get an epic flier by buying things I could farm for. Time is easier for me to spend than gold.
This thread has been very helpful and prompted me to make 1k this week already just from jewelcrafting, so here's my "I'm a horrible person" tip of the day: Exploit others' laziness.
If you have 375 cooking and bother to hunt out recipes like Mok'nathal Shortribs, or even Warp Burger, selling the daily cooking quest ingredients in appropriate stacks at ridiculously inflated prices is easy money. Not a lot, but it'll add up every day, plus people have started bringing their raw meat to me and tipping me
You need 325 JC to prospect adamantite, so a minimum of level 50 (?)
Grinding your JC to 325 is something I don't ever want to do again, but there might be an easier way to do it. I did mine pre-range changes on the skillups. Plus if you get JC and have an enchanter alt, you can institute the ring de'ing scheme listed above. I'm trying it, just because I'm trying to upgrade 7 bags to imbued netherweave. Everything's been farmed, except for the enchanting mats, and I did not get an epic flier by buying things I could farm for. Time is easier for me to spend than gold.
Oh yea my "mule" is a 70hunter with an epic flying mount, so level isn't really an issue. My main is enchanting, so yea that might be a very good idea with ring DEing, guess I'll level JC, I have plenty of money to invest to level it fast anyway.
Make items and post them that are always needed.
Famous items are netherweave bags, everyone buys a new alt 4 of them instantly since they hate the "bags are full" message while questing/grinding.
Bar a few exceptions its always wrong to put on raw resources ( herbs / cloth ) as you can make a lot more by putting up more specific items. Examples can be seen as a nightseye is always cheaper than the cheapest royal nightseye for example.
Im just wondering : How do people stay motivated to earn money like mad once they have reaced an amount any normal person will never spend ( lets say this amount is 10k+ ). I always have problems finding motivation to grind once Im around 3k and dont bother with it until Im close to 1k again for whatever reason. In other words : How do you prevent your "uncle scrooge mood" burnout ?
Im just wondering : How do people stay motivated to earn money like mad once they have reaced an amount any normal person will never spend ( lets say this amount is 10k+ ). I always have problems finding motivation to grind once Im around 3k and dont bother with it until Im close to 1k again for whatever reason. In other words : How do you prevent your "uncle scrooge mood" burnout ?
Find stuff to spend money on. It's not like you're competing with anyone else, so the only purpose of money is to spend it. You'll work harder if there is an objective for your money (just like in real life). In my case I'm trying to buy a bunch of [Crimson Spinel] because it will be a while before my guild has enough for everyone. I want to make sure my gear is in top condition. Just find something expensive that you can enjoy for a while when you get it. An epic mount for an alt? Level some profession to 375? Rare BoE crafting patterns? Epic gems? Flasks for battlegrounds? There are always more things to buy.
2.3 made mote farming quite easy and fun for me, being an engineer.
However, I'm starting to feel like Primal Airs are going to become what Primal Shadows were pre-2.1. Our auction house is already flooded with them and prices have dipped down to 15g (from 25g pre-2.3). Here's hoping it evens out.
I'll share my own little secret that worked for me when I was farming for my epic mount:
After doing most of the quick dailies and stopping to kill/herb some of the Skettis tree guys, I'd venture over to Shadowmoon Valley for a farming session. The water pools in the top-middle of the map (forgive me, I can't remember the location name) are home to elementals with what seems to be a higher-than-average spawn timer.
I would farm at least 6 Primal Waters to sell in about 1-1 1/2 hours time, per day (5 to sell, 1 to transmute to a Primal Air and sell). The mote drop rate isn't much better than anywhere else, but the spawn timer makes farming a breeze if you can go on and on with little downtime.
With the gold from the Primals and disenchanting the greens that were dropped, I gained my 5000g in a little less than two weeks.
I have tried a lot of the different farming locations mentioned but I keep coming back to Legion Hold. It's really just that good. The summoners are incredibly low hp clothies, drop a ton of good stuff and respawn like wildfire. It is still the best AOE farming spot I can find.
Of course I am a little biased as an enchanter/tailor mage. Lots of greens and cloth for mats and Aldor rep items to sell off make for a fairly perfect haul.
Possibly a slight derail, but I think it's relevant - has the 'ease' of acquiring gold, coupled with the number of dailies available now, finally put the last nail in the coffin on gold buying?
I know Tigole heralded the 'end' of gold buying when they started releasing dailies (he was pretty passionate about it at BlizzCon), but are we there yet? I can remember back to the late-BWL and onwards era, hearing about people buying gold was totally commonplace - every third person AFK in IF/Org had bought gold, and that was just fact.
Today, however, I can't think of a single person that I know of who has bought gold since Burning Crusade (or at the very least, for sure since early 2007 - nothing in the past 6-8 months). I know the gold selling ads have resorted to advertising rock-bottom prices, and I would imagine that's a product of a) competition and b) an over-saturated market; I would hazard a guess that b) is a product of no demand.
I know quite a lot of people who bought gold right after BC release, before dailies and such, for their epic flying mount. But yeah since then it doesn't seem to have much of an appeal, the only people I can see buying gold are players starting anew(50g make a WORLD of difference when you're starting on a new server, you can buy bags and train everything including gathering profressions and list your crap on AH). Also with all their anti gold stuff I guess it's harder to buy gold now too.
However I see a lot of account selling/trading/sharing, and consequently a lot of "hacking", bans and whining. But that's a derail, would be better to make a new thread about it if anything.
As for Legion Hold, it's definitely one of the best farming spots in the game imo, the only issue being, as an aldor tailor, it wasn't that profitable because I used all the cloth and marks/armaments for myself, so I ended up going somewhere else where I wouldn't be tempted to use the stuff I'm farming for gold ^^.
5g per [Elixir of Major Strength]? Wish I was on your server. I'm only getting 2g per but I'm saving stock for S3 release when people are going to need to get Executioner on their new gladiator weapons. Hopefully that and Skyfire Diamonds when S3 releases will let me relax on farming for a while.
As long as gold remains cheap there will be people who buy it. For example: I just checked a gold buying website and the gold is 53 USD per 1000 gold. That is 2 hours of work for me (less/more for some people). I don't think anyone can make 1000g in 2 hours of work (easy work-- my job). I haven't bought gold since BC came out, but with a full time job and raiding 5 nights a week and 10 mans on the other two evenings, there isn't really much time to farm a flying epic, and the temptation to work one extra day on the weekend and buy 5k gold with that money is pretty hard to ignore when it would take me ridiculous amounts of in game time for that gold.
I know loads of people that bought gold when TBC hit, actually I'd need both hands, a piece of paper and a pencil to name them all and I could still add a couple that still monthly buy gold (One has in last year bought like 150-200k gold). Though someone in my guild though just farms and crafts flasks and is sitting at 30k gold. To each his own I guess.
Personally I like farming fast primals, Primal mana in netherstorm or primal water on elemental plateu nets around around 8-10 primal waters in an hour or 10-15 primal manas in an hour. It's pretty fast farming, not too good value though since primal mana is 13g on my server. I really miss the old days where you could have epic farmingruns like solofarming trees in Diremaul with LOS abuse. Those were the times, 1000g in a couple hours gogo!
While im doing my netherwing quests I'll try and get my crystals solely from the nether rays on the exterior of the island. This works well for me because im also a herbalist, so I pick up any netherdust or other herbs along the way as I trek around the island.
This nets me a pretty good chance at fel lotus, massive amounts of primal mana, and of course you complete atleast 3 quests (booterang, netherdust pollen and netherwing crystals). Depending on your server you can also sell netherwing egg locations for 5-10g (atleast I use too, now its very difficult/impossible).
Other then that I tend to stay away from the netherwing quests, especially in the mines. Competition for the ravagers can be very high at times and sometimes can take forever.
Going back to what some people said before about farming the Skettis trees, i have found it to be very easy to make money from them as a hunter.
Although i don't think it would work for everyone, as the main advantage is the 2/5 T5 bonus. Send boar in, intimidation, misdirect, mend pet, cooldowns.
Drops in 45 seconds max if you keep mend pet up the entire time.
Don't bother with the Skettis trees if you're an elemental shaman, they're nature immune. Had to frost shock kite the one I killed, dodging the elementals and birds was pretty hard.
Don't bother with the Skettis trees if you're an elemental shaman, they're nature immune. Had to frost shock kite the one I killed, dodging the elementals and birds was pretty hard.
Other than elemental shamans, I think I've seen every type of class build kill those trees for a nice source of gold/consumable mats. I've seen everything from holy priest to prot warrior solo them without too much effort. As a result, it's usually hard to have access to all the trees for myself and sometimes very difficult if someone of the opposing faction sees you as a free HK while you're engaged in combat with one.
A little while back someone recommended borrowing what you can to get your flying epic. Having just borrowed the last 1000g for mine, I can say that it's totally worth it. The increase in speed is just massive - I was able to farm over 700g of the 1000 needed the same day I got the mount just zooming around picking off quests - even if you have those done and are down to dailies/herbing, it's still a huge increase in efficiency.
11/20/07, 3:12 AM
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