xiaoxin21

What about the packs at Jandice Barov? Did you skip her or anyway past the skeletons? Is there a way to get to her via blinking or invisbility or just skip her? Would like to get the chest as well as there are some greens inside which can be DEed

 

Macblade

Okay seriously, this now has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Take it to PM or a more appropriate thread please, stop wasting space in this one.

I believe the price of primal air has gone up because of a surge in demand more than a lack of farmers. I'm not sure about the other SSC/Eye belts but all three of the LWing ones require 10 primal air, so I've bought at least 150 (that's not a typo) since 2.4 and probably used about that much either from my stock or from people bringing me mats. I don't see the price dropping anytime soon as the badge vendor is about to open and the 50ap/10 crit patch require 8 primal air as well.

 

ChaguraED

So US- Proudmoore has unlocked the badge Vendor. Any alts on that server able to give an update on how the Leg patches/Primal Market has been affected?

 

Dorrinal

My fiance makes a steady profit crafting Gold Rod and Truesilver Rod. I still don't understand why but they sell regularly on the Auction House and don't require a lot of time if you purchase the materials. Good luck making money!

 

Artemia

Primal Nethers are holding steady at 50-70g. The price of almost all primals has shot through the roof. I sold off a few Primal Shadows yesterday for 39g a pop (they had been around 20g before); Airs are as high as 47g; Life has risen from 11 to as high as 27g; even Earth has gone from 5 to 10g. I'm a leatherworker and the AH prices of Nethercobra and Nethercleft Leg Armor have gone up about 150g. I don't pay much attention to the Runic or Golden spellthread market, but from what I hear from my tailoring friends, they have risen similarly in price.

 

Kamaegwyn

My rogue, starting out in Shattrath, picks up the quests there, does Oshu-Gun for the readings,and loops along the north side of Nagrand over to the west and then north side of HFP to mine for the nether residue. After the two quests at Throne of Kil'jaeden, I fly north to a Mana Forge (depending on how it's farmed, mostly to Ara) for the Sunfury Plans, then over to Blade's Edge for the Man Cells, then hearth back to Shatt and turn in. Port to Isle of QQ, do all the quests, and use the scroll to port back to Shatt.

On my mage, I do Oshu-Gun / HFP, then hearth to Stormspire and do Sunfury / Blade's Edge, port back to Shatt and then do Isle of QQ.

Easy money from the quests and DEing greens, and I had some decent stuff (enchant and JC recipes) drop off the fiends.

 

Madlax

I do it as a warlock and I don´t do Jandice because it´s a major pain down there and not worth the time(imho).

 

Macblade

So you would say that the limiting factor for all of the different leg enchants are the primals required and that there is such a huge over supply of nethers that nothing has changed on them?

On my server the vendor is at about 60% so I'm trying to figure out what to stock up on and release for the boom market of vendor day. In particular I'm looking at the primals for the leg enchants which would be earth, air, mana and life.

Primal air has already gone from 20g to 35g and mostly holding steady, and I'd prefer to find things that have stayed low/ gone lower. I'm worried about miners and herbers that might have a ton of earth/life lying around swamping any efforts I might try to control that market.

This leaves primal mana. The price has gone down recently from the daily quest on sunwell, but I also don't think that people have a ton stocked up because you can only do the daily, umm daily, and its not something that you would get in the course of other activities, e.g. mining/herbing.

So at this point I'm willing to bet then that buying out all the primal mana and relisting them at double to cost would work pretty well. Obviously, this is a bet and there would be risk involved but does anyone see any obvious flaws?

 

Artemia

Before the patch, the price of Primals was going down steadily, but even so, they are definitely the limiting factor now. And, I would guess that there was an oversupply of Nethers given the fact that heroics were being farmed into the ground on our server by people wanting badges for 2.4.

I just asked my boyfriend about the Primal Mana... he bought up as much of it as he could in the past week to make Runic Spellthread, at between 14-19g, before it went up. He made over 5000g profit (granted he had quite a few banked Primal Nethers) since we got the badge vendor (about 36 hours ago). Obviously, buying up Primal Mana could be different on other servers, but I think it's a pretty safe bet if you can get them cheap enough. I'm sure you could make a good profit either selling the raw material or crafting.

 

Tifordin

I've bought about 50 Primal Mana off the AH at 13g in the last few days, and crafted them into Runic Spellthread. At 70g for Nethers that's 200g per spellthread. I was able to flip 3 for 380g each right off the bat. There are a few people undercutting me now but I expect to get this price again after we get the badge vendor and S4. 180g profit per spellthread for minimal effort is pretty sweet!

 

chaud

Was there an increase of shard prices as well on Proudmoore? I have a few that I need to sell eventually and I am not sure if I should save them for S4, or just sell them when the badge vendor is out.

 

Ngita

Other then picking up all the Leg Patches I would need before hand I havent really followed thay market, but primals jumped 30-50%. Blue gems went absolutely nuts. Doubled in price in minutes. From /1 chat I got the feeling a lot of people expected to be able to buy epic gems at the same time and had'nt prepared. So instant reaction was to hit the AH and buy anything to fill those empty slots.

I sold a lot of soulfrost,mongoose,+spell damage and chest enchants. But the arcane dust and GPE markets are just so overstocked that their price hardly moved. 1000+ sales of Arcane dust on the AH. What I cant really figure out is the illusion dust. I sold out my supplies happily at 60g a stack 2 days ago and now its 80g a stack. Perhaps its just someone playing the market.

 

Chlor

Still on the subject of Proudmoore...

I wasn't online when the badge vendor opened so can't comment on the time immediately after the event, however I have noted the following in the past 24 hours:

• LPS are hovering around 24-25g steady and supply seems strong
• Dust and Essence are tanking hard due to oversupply
• Most primals are skyrocketing, even Earth which is sitting at over 10g per
• Rare leg armor/thread is slightly up, however there are huge increases in the epic version sale prices - I've sold a few Nethercleft for almost 400g per for example. On a related note, all other non-primal materials for the LWing armor have virtually sold out as of this morning.
• Primal Might jumped up to 140g then settled at around 115g per, with supply being limited at this stage
• All rare gems (cut and uncut) have settled a bit after the initial rush, with Noble Topaz and Living Ruby between 70-85g and Dawnstones just under 40g. Talasites are still around 10-12g.
• A large number of people have jumped on the new meta cuts. I made decent profits selling 2-3 days prior to the vendor opening, whereas now these cuts fetch similar values to the old favourites, RED and CSD.

If you have a surplus of enchanting mats i'm sure a decent amount could be made by hawking enchants near the badge vendor as, typically, people will want to get their new gear enchanted ASAP no matter the cost.

 

chaud

Chlor, what were the previous prices. I'm not sure how much of a jump that was in price, as on my realm LPS are sitting at 30g today.

 

Namsar

Talking from a Proudmoore perspective also here is a few things I have noticed I'll talk of prices in percent of averages, as it makes more sense since everyones realm prices differ.

The rare materials for making leg patches have gone up considerably... e.g. cobra scales, primal airs... both up over 150% of normal pricing.

The sale price of full leg enchants is up around 160-200% of normal sale prices.

The market for the easier to get items is still around normal (Thick clefthoof, primal earths, arcane dust, shards, etc).

I haven't been watching the gem prices (I know I should have!) but this is what I noticed from today.

So it would seem the best thing to do is to stock up on airs, cobra scales, mana's, and lifes... to make all the leg patches.

 

Oscarvil

Heya I've been monitoring it as well so I might be able to answer. LPS were around 20g before 2.4, and after 2.4 they went up to 24g, slowly dropped till the beginning of the weekend when people decided to get on board for exploiting the new vendor, and now they're at 24g again.

There are 2000 Arcane dust under or at 1g buyout, there are around 500 Planar essence is priced at 6.5-7g, 300 at 7.5-8g. These prices are pretty much unchanged from their values pre 2.4.

Primal Might were around 90-95g, primal earth were usually under 3g. primal mana were around 15g, primal life around 13-14g and primal air were 20g. Unusually the primal mana market hasn't followed the trend of the earth/air markets, it's only jumped to around 20g with a lot of supply. I didn't get a look at the water/fire markets because I ran out of them to sell (before the vendor came up >.< ) and didn't check them before work this morning.

The primal mooncloth/shadowcloth/spellcloth markets have boomed, up by 15g+/pc from their pre-2.4 values (around 40g for all but mooncloth which was 35g) and I've run out of those as well.

 

passislisk

I have been following this thread for some time now although I am having problems actually managing to make any money even using some of the tips given here. Since this thread has over 90 pages of information it is extremely hard to wade through when just starting to read the forums, and I feel I must have missed many of the important posts in the thread. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a JC/Miner, no epic flying, very few rare/meta cuts, and only 1000g in capita to invest. I am restoration specced so farming is not really an option for me, although if it would be profitable I could mine, although with a basic flying mount I feel there must be better ways to spend my time. So I guess I'm really asking if anybody could give me some tips on good markets to watch for fluctuations in, and how to decide what to buy for relisting. I can also provide some average prices for my server from what I have seen since I started paying attention if anyone feels it is worthwhile.

 

xiaoxin21

There are a few task you can do.

first do dailys. 25 a day gives you like 200g or more a day depending on which one you chose to do

Second way. respec to farm then spec back.

Third way, just instance alot. instancing as a healer is a good way to make gold

Playing the AH is very much server dependant so you have to observe yourself. But a good bet will be enchanting mats.

 

Macblade

I was thinking a little bit tonight on what the best theory would be for posting large ticket items in which you are the only or one of few posters.

For example, leg patches of many different kinds typically only have one person posting or perhaps two. If I'm the only person posting what is the best scheme to follow if, for example, I wanted to post 4 nethercleft leg armors.

Obviously, I could post them all at the same price and just try to pick a price that people will buy them at, but tonight I was also thinking about the possible benefits of perhaps posting the 4 of them in 50g increments. Say start at or a little below what I know they will sell at then go up from there.

It seems to me that because they are such big ticket items in comparison to the cost to put them up, that even if only the second patch was bought then that's an extra 50g profit which more than covers the loss of the deposit on the 3rd and 4th ones.

I guess one important note is that the leg enchants are somewhere in the middle in terms of crafting mat costs. Enough that its not possible to churn out more than 4 or so at a time by buying mats of the ah, but at the same time cheap enough that you CAN make 4 as opposed to most of the epic items which might require 500-1000g in mats. So this isn't something that I would imagine working with SSC/Eye belts because of the sunk cost of having that many belts at one time. Or with many of the green or blue crafted items as the difference between the deposit and your net profit probably aren't high enough.

Anyway, just some late night rambling thoughts, what do you guys think?

 

Macblade

I agree that enchanting mats are a reasonably safe way to start if you want to get into playing the AH a little. The main perk being that there is no vendor price so there is no deposit cost. As long as you don't go below the AH cut, you can never lose money by being under cut and not selling thing on the first or second try.

I made a steady income for a long time just by checking the LPS market a couple times a day and buying whenever there was a few that were 3 or 4 g cheaper than the main body of shards, then relisting so they were 1s below the lowest. As you start to watch the market more you can figure out your server's ebb and flow and start to say buy things over the weekend because people are doing lots of 5 mans and then post them for 5g above average on monday night because auctions will come down over the tuesday reset and people won't get around to reposting for a while.

 

ZeroWashu

I don't think there is a huge supply of nethers. When the patch released I snatch as many as I could under 75g, a few stacks at 60 each. Now I am selling them in the AH at 110-125 and that is undercutting by 5 to 10 % depending.

Air is a great time sink for me now, its back to where it outdoes dailys as a good source of income. 25g minimum per primal is way better than mana; as a low as 10g!; or water which is rapidly challenging water for bottom of barrel pricing. Fire holds its own though.

 

ZeroWashu

First, being 70 you don't need to use your flying mount to run many of the better mining routes, most mobs will have an decreased aggro range, some to the point you can probably pet them. I used my speed impaired paladin to farm fel iron nodes and such in HFP and Zanga for the fire motes and such. While the Fel Iron Ore only returns 9g or so per stack the motes make up for it, let alone chance at a good gem drop. Too many people get into this flying trap, meaning they get a flying mount and suddenly forget their ground mount has value - until you get the epic flyer.

Another option, thorium, check out the prices on your server. On my its more pricey than Adamantite and I can mine anywhere in the old world without even waking up the npcs.

 

Valerys

On my server, LPS go for 28g or so, VC can be bought for 30g. So void shatter seems like a profitable activity.

 

zliplus

LPS are about the same on mine, while voids are barely 20g. While that makes void shatter more profitable (worth about 40g profit each), it doesn't change the fact that the 1 day cooldown makes it more a bonus for enchanters rather than a way to make money. Of course, you can always try to con other enchanters into doing void shatter for you for a "tip", or some such, but I doubt you'd get much success.

 

tedv

The reason this thread is so long is that it follows the financial markets of dozens of servers-- and horde and alliance sides have different dynamics. While there may be general tips to help you make money, there are no precise instructions. So don't read this thread looking for them. Instead, view this as as opportunity to learn how rich people THINK. Then start thinking like them. It's easy to say buy low, sell high. The trick is identifying what low and high are, and careful reading will teach you how to find those lows and highs.

In your case, I would look make brilliant glass daily and prospect all the ore you can mine. Then see what cuts you can do on green gems for a 4g+ net profit (over the sale cost of the uncut gem).