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Old 04/09/08, 10:24 AM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #2501 (permalink)
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If you have multiple alts calculate getting JWC on him (even if u have already a char with JWC) The return on making the brilliant glass might be fast depending on green gems market and/or your bank.

Becouse of bad change to the brilliant glass and saved over 150 stacks of green gems i decided to give it a go with JWC on 2nd char. It will cost me around 500 gold to reach 300JWC (My server has totally dump prices) but in the end i shall get a return in investment in around 15-25 days. Which is fair enough.
 
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Old 04/09/08, 6:21 PM   #2502 (permalink)
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Keep in mind the, at least on my realm and according to others in this very thread, green gems ability to sell amazingly well, highly overpriced (or inflated, whatever rocks your boat) and very fast when cut. It still makes brilliant glass viable, but it's not that huge of an income source when you consider the whole picture.

What a man had to go through for a piece of ass in the modern age was highly ridiculous.
 
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Old 04/09/08, 11:43 PM   #2503 (permalink)
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Absolutely enormous price spikes in crafted items/primals/nethers/enchanting mats on Hellscream after the vendor opened today. Sold a nethercobra leg armor for 600 gold (primal airs are listed for 40g PER, cobra scales for 35-45, nethers=70) in under 12 seconds and while I logged out right after I listed my next one, I have no doubt it will sell. Manas/fires/enchanting mats are scarce as all hell horde side and there are literally zero vortexes on the AH. Shards/voids have gained 35% of their base value since this morning and even GPEs are slightly more expensive (despite a supply glut).

Though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable; I simply am not there.

On your server, causing econo-trauma.
 
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Old 04/10/08, 7:37 PM   #2504 (permalink)
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Farming Sunwell Trash, the first 2 packs to be precise, is getting a serious business tree on our server.
Besides the 6 raiding guilds we already have 3 steady farming groups per night.
Sunmotes drop into the AH for 1000-1500g each(pretty reasonable).

All you need are some proper healers and a bunch of mages basically - pretty steady income guaranteed.
 
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Old 04/11/08, 2:57 AM   #2505 (permalink)
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[Primal Shadow] seems to be selling at new levels of height since the removal of attunements from Black Temple.
I recall buying a load of these at 4-5g a piece, but I'm currently managing to sell these at 30-35g a piece.
Obviously the price has been going up since they no longer drop from demons, but an engineer can still get them quite reliably.

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Old 04/11/08, 6:37 AM   #2506 (permalink)
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The market for Darkmoon Card decks seems to have tanked since the release of Magister's Terrace and the trinkets therein.
 
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Old 04/11/08, 9:17 AM   #2507 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Wogan View Post
The market for Darkmoon Card decks seems to have tanked since the release of Magister's Terrace and the trinkets therein.

I've actually sold two lunacy decks this week for 799 costing 450ish to make.


On the badge vendor line, MG was open sometime between last night and this morning. LPS are at 33 and less than a page are available (up from 24-27 and three pages), primal life is up to 20-24 from 16, primal mana is staying right around 16 at the moment and primal earth is stuck at 5-6. The earth may have been a bad investment, although there's always nethercleft or mercurial adamantite.
 
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Old 04/11/08, 10:46 AM   #2508 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jerry247 View Post
I've actually sold two lunacy decks this week for 799 costing 450ish to make.


On the badge vendor line, MG was open sometime between last night and this morning. LPS are at 33 and less than a page are available (up from 24-27 and three pages), primal life is up to 20-24 from 16, primal mana is staying right around 16 at the moment and primal earth is stuck at 5-6. The earth may have been a bad investment, although there's always nethercleft or mercurial adamantite.
How about Primal Air, Primal Nether, and your blue gem market?

I have been unable to find any primal air almost on the AH or through trade channel on my realm for the past week. Even made a trial account to check the Alliance AH, and they have next to none as well.
 
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Old 04/11/08, 12:17 PM   #2509 (permalink)
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On more servers with recently opened badge vendors, have the prices for cobra scales gone up across the board? Wondering if it's worth farming these while I can get the cobras to myself.

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Old 04/11/08, 12:42 PM   #2510 (permalink)
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I just phoned home and asked the wife to check the AH. I don't know if the vendor is open on Burning Blade yet (I haven't even been to the new island at all) but I think this thread has already had an impact on prices there:

Primal Fire: 27g (20g average)
Primal Air: 50g (35g average)
Primal Mana: 17g (12g average)
Primal Earth: 4.50g (same)
Primal Life: 1 for 19g, rest are 24g (20g average)

No epic leg enchants are on the AH and there is also a complete dearth of Cobra scales available.

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Old 04/11/08, 1:00 PM   #2511 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Pixen View Post
On more servers with recently opened badge vendors, have the prices for cobra scales gone up across the board? Wondering if it's worth farming these while I can get the cobras to myself.
On my server Cobra Scales were about 15g pre-2.4. They went up to about 30g before the badge vendor, and about 50g today since shes been open (if youre lucky enough to find any).

The big moneymaker I found with the new Badge Vendor was Primal Life and Golden Spellthread. Life went from 12g to over 30g. I only managed to get 2 spellthreads together before the vendor opened and they sold in 20minutes at 425g (normally 300 or less).

With Nethercobra patches the limiting factor appears to be the scales. Primal Air prices have barely moved (up maybe 4g). Ive priced my Nethercobra patches ridiculously (750, normally 550) and a couple have sold. Havnt had as much luck with Runic Spellthread, prices have hardly moved. Though these are all such low-volume items that its hard to draw much from these anecdotes as it really depends on your customer. My personal feeling is that most dps players went after the new weapons, while healers grabbed the pants more often.
 
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Old 04/12/08, 1:42 PM   #2512 (permalink)
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Now that it has been a few weeks since the patch, I'm convinced that there has been significant gold inflation. More people doing dailies and less people farming seems to have made prices rise 20-40% across the board. At first I thought it was people speculating on items in anticipation of the badge vendor, but I'm not so sure now. Though I was eager to sell my primals and gems at 50% profit in the days after the patch, but i don't see prices falling back to pre-2.4 levels anytime soon, if ever. Now certain common drops from doing heroic runs such as netherweave cloth and aldor + scryer signets will stay in overabundant supply, but I see most prices staying at their current levels.
 
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Old 04/12/08, 1:51 PM   #2513 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roquer View Post
Now that it has been a few weeks since the patch, I'm convinced that there has been significant gold inflation. More people doing dailies and less people farming seems to have made prices rise 20-40% across the board. At first I thought it was people speculating on items in anticipation of the badge vendor, but I'm not so sure now. Though I was eager to sell my primals and gems at 50% profit in the days after the patch, but i don't see prices falling back to pre-2.4 levels anytime soon, if ever. Now certain common drops from doing heroic runs such as netherweave cloth and aldor + scryer signets will stay in overabundant supply, but I see most prices staying at their current levels.
"Casual" friends of mine are making 300g+ per 70 per day, some are spending enough time to fill the daily quota on four characters. We're talking about a good bit over 1k *daily*. It's not great gold / hour, but it's having a profound effect on the economy. Rare items at any level have tripled, twink items that used to fetch 200g go for 5-600 gold now, everything is just inflated.
 
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Old 04/12/08, 3:03 PM   #2514 (permalink)
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If you've got the badges and don't need the new gear, it's a good time to sell Nether Vortexes. Everyone's saving up for gear that's ludicrously better than anything attainable to most people so no one wants to waste badged on vortexes. The week after 2.4 hit they were selling for 250g, I've sold five today at 320-350g, I keep raising the price one at a time and they keep selling.
 
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Old 04/12/08, 8:35 PM   #2515 (permalink)
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Neptulon-EU vendor opened today. Market pretty much stayed the same. Letdown
 
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Old 04/12/08, 8:37 PM   #2516 (permalink)
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Cobra scales were going for 17.5g apiece on my server right before the vendor hit. I put a bunch up, and I was the only seller. The result is that since the vendor popped I've sold 4 stacks of two scales at 70g, 2 stacks of two at 80g, 3 single scales at 40g, and 2 singe scales at 50g. I also managed to buy up somebody who undercut me at 25, sold for 40 a half hour later.

My nethercobra, the only one on the AH at 650g, has not sold in 24 hours, despite only being 250g more expensive than the cobrahides are listing at.

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Old 04/12/08, 9:01 PM   #2517 (permalink)
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Well, my realm opened today. It has been open for a few hours, and virtually no change in prices. My spellthreads wouldn't sell, people hardly bought anything off of the AH. Gems, primals, enchanting mats all stayed pretty much the same. Now I am stuck with 100+ primals, nethers, spellthread, and cobra scales that would only sell for a few gold profit each.

Gurubashi is a high pop realm, we just had free transfers off. We have, according to warcraftrealms a 40/60 for the Horde population, and I am Horde side. Rather disappointing.
 
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Old 04/12/08, 9:11 PM   #2518 (permalink)
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A lot of this could be due to the fact that anyone single-minded enough to acquire a lot of new badge loot today through farming badges in advance and knowing what was coming has also in all likelihood prepared for the various enchants/gems/armourkits they'll need to have applied.
 
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Old 04/12/08, 11:01 PM   #2519 (permalink)
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My realm's badge vendor popped about 2 days ago, and my experience was in between the extremes being reported here. Scales, primal life, golden spellthread, shards, essences, and void crystals spiked. Gems and primal airs pretty much stayed put. Runic spellthread and some of the other primals moved but not an extreme percentage. It's worth noting that airs were already pretty high in the week+ leading up to the vendor, not sure about much before that.
 
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Old 04/13/08, 6:10 AM   #2520 (permalink)
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On Blackrock Primals increased moderately, life especially, though all of them by roughly 20-25% at guess compared to what I was able to pick them up for a couple of days before the vendor opened. Gems don't seem to have shifted noticeably, Primal nether's up about 50% though. Large and Small prismatics both up about 25% again and selling quick (though huge supply out there). Greater Planar and Arcane dust not up at all but selling quickly.

At a guess I'll probably have made somewhere in the 1-2k range off it, decent return for the time/risk but certainly nothing amazing.
 
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Old 04/13/08, 7:13 AM   #2521 (permalink)
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Fairly minimal shifts on my server. Most primals (including Nethers) barely budged; primal Life was the only exception. Cobra Scales shifted upwards slightly, but not enough to make buying / reselling profitable. Gems went up, but again, not by massive amounts (they've been moving upwards steadily for a while, especially Metas). The enchanting market is still bouncing around in the wake of the various 2.4 changes, but I think Prismatics were up slightly.

All-in-all, nothing very significant. Quite disappointing really.
 
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Old 04/13/08, 9:21 AM   #2522 (permalink)
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What combination of stats on green items (weapons and armor) seem to consistently sell? I've been DEing all of mine, and vendoring the weapons, but have wondered if I could make more from the AH on some of the items.
 
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Old 04/13/08, 9:55 AM   #2523 (permalink)
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To me it seems as if most L. 69-70 greens were obsolete due to better quest rewards/instance drops and possibly crafted items.

L. 58-60 greens seem to sell especially well since at that level range you want your twink to be geared in strong Outland gear.
 
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Old 04/13/08, 10:20 AM   #2524 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kaacee View Post
What combination of stats on green items (weapons and armor) seem to consistently sell? I've been DEing all of mine, and vendoring the weapons, but have wondered if I could make more from the AH on some of the items.
"Of the Bandit" and "of the Beast" (plate, mail and leather, of course) sometimes sell for me, less as you near level 70 items, ie, the level 61-65 sell best. I only put them up on weekends, and rarely for longer than one expiry cycle - unless the 48 hours cost is moderately low. Depending on enchanting materials prices, I put it quite a bit above the cost of 2-5 arcane dusts it could yield. This, of course, is not steady at all. I never try to sell + pure stats items.

I never put any weapons in either - i DE or vendor them - since in my opinion the risk of losing the 1-3g AH cost is too high... or maybe I am not taking enough risks :p

the post-vendor situation server (Arathor (EU)) wide (alliance)

Prices have gone up two days before Smith Hauthaa actually opened her store:
Primal Air spiked to 40-50 g (was 20-25), and its still around those prices
Primal Water spiked to 40, its lowered to 30 now (was 17-20)
Primal Life is ~20 (was 10-12)
Primal Shadow is around 30 (was 22-25)
Manas are 12-16
Fires are 20-25

Cobra Scales spiked for a few hours to 50, are now steady 20-30
Clefthoof rose slightly to 5-6, was steady at 3.5-4 for a long time before

Primal Nethers were around 50 after 2.4 started, gradually got more expensive to 70-90, spiked in the days before the vendor to 120-150, on the day she started selling came back to 80-100.

Vorthexi are 200-230, not many changes in prices since 2 days after the patch.

Gems are 20% more expensive (cut rubies are around 70-80 now)
Meta gems are the same (they will probably spike insanely only for s4 anyway)

I wasnt paying much attention to enchanting mats, since I had a prepared stash for what I needed :/



edit: clarification

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Old 04/13/08, 1:43 PM   #2525 (permalink)
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one of the few high value green items is lv. 67-70 green wands "Of XXX wrath"

Until people buy the 25 BoJ wand theyre the best you can get for spell dmg. I see them selling for 20-30g usually.
 
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