Just wondering if any other servers have seen an increases of over 50% on the prices of herbs, specifically Nightmare Vine, Golden Sansan and Terocones with the other herb prices remaining relatively stable although still prone to huge spikes on certain random days. I suspect in the case of our server it's just one or two people buying out all the stock and controlling the market since supply seems to have been diminshed by the 2.4 daily quests. Oddly enough this price hasn't translated into selling Elixirs (and flasks). Just seems like a slightly odd situation.
Just wondering if any other servers have seen an increases of over 50% on the prices of herbs, specifically Nightmare Vine, Golden Sansan and Terocones with the other herb prices remaining relatively stable although still prone to huge spikes on certain random days. I suspect in the case of our server it's just one or two people buying out all the stock and controlling the market since supply seems to have been diminshed by the 2.4 daily quests. Oddly enough this price hasn't translated into selling Elixirs (and flasks). Just seems like a slightly odd situation.
I suspect it's more along the lines of the usual herbalists are questing more than herbing.
I would suspect it is raid guilds with plenty of gold spending money on herbs to provide consumables to raiders on progression content.
I'd assumed Sunwell guilds would be pretty well stocked after complaining about the wait. I think the other explanation is likely to account for a greater proportion of this.
I´d like to point it out for those with enough time and manpower for Sunwell Trash.
Anyways, I want to let you know, that we were able to successfully farm the first trash pack with 11 people and 4 mages. Took us a few times to get the pull down and revised our kill order but we did it without much trouble once we figured it out =D.
I can pull the first group (hunter misdirect) and avoid the protector (would have to with a small group).
It can in fact be quite a good money income + several nice drops.
I'd assumed Sunwell guilds would be pretty well stocked after complaining about the wait. I think the other explanation is likely to account for a greater proportion of this.
Our guild bank has such a stupid amount of gold I think we just decided to buy everything as we need it instead of using tons of inv spots weeks before we use items.
As for our raiders, there are always the types who start looking for fel lotus/mana oils/.. 15 minutes before the raid starts.
Prices of "low level" herbs have been crazy lately on my server:
Mountain Silversage - 30-40 a stack
Dreamfoil/Golden Sansam/Plaguebloom - 20-30 a stack
but it's Gromsblood that takes the prize with 5g each - sold a stack of 12 last night for 60g!
It's especially nice since I'm levelling a druid (just dinged 60 and still in the Old World) and there's absolutely no competition over the herbs - the zones are nearly empty and I practically spend more time herbing than questing!
Apart from that, prices haven't changed much - adamantite is actually up (from28 to 32 average), LPS are pretty steady, and blue gems have gone up slightly.
It'll be interesting to see if the gem vendor has an effect on the economy, but right now I'm not so sure...
A point being missed here with comments about commodities "holding their value" is that anything that has not gone up in price has gone down in value, due the the all round inflation caused by the daily quest gold influx.
Absolutely if you think that doing so would actually have any effect on the market. When it comes to playing the Auction House, you have to keep business and friendship separate. The bottom line is to make gold at the expense of anyone and everyone possible, if you don't do everything in your power to be successful in this regard, I guarantee someone like me will come along and take advantage of the opportunities you overlook.
It also depends on what your goal is. I'm content at hitting 40k gold this week, and I think mostly everyone thinks I'm a "nice guy". I've been known to give away items worth a few hundred gold now and then and while this does limit my growth somewhat, I'm not really fuzzed. Maybe I could have had 45k or even 50k if I was a bit more ruthless but I'd much rather feel like I'm being a nice guy *and* making a nice chunk of gold at the same time.
Also, as much as "other more ruthless people" could drive me out of business, it really doesn't seem that way. Others do have other markets for sure, but I'm content where I am and I try to diversify myself to the point where I'm not totally tied up. If you feel it's worth to take advantage of an opportunity that I think isn't worth it, that's fine, that's your choice, but unless this removes any current gains from me it hasn't really hurt me.
Prices of "low level" herbs have been crazy lately on my server:
Mountain Silversage - 30-40 a stack
Dreamfoil/Golden Sansam/Plaguebloom - 20-30 a stack
but it's Gromsblood that takes the prize with 5g each - sold a stack of 12 last night for 60g!
It's especially nice since I'm levelling a druid (just dinged 60 and still in the Old World) and there's absolutely no competition over the herbs - the zones are nearly empty and I practically spend more time herbing than questing!
Apart from that, prices haven't changed much - adamantite is actually up (from28 to 32 average), LPS are pretty steady, and blue gems have gone up slightly.
It'll be interesting to see if the gem vendor has an effect on the economy, but right now I'm not so sure...
The increase in prices of herbs is quite possibly due to the quality of the new Alchemist's Stone(s) in particular the [Redeemer's Alchemist Stone]. Combined with the increased income from daily quests.
It takes roughly ~75 Golden Sansam ~40 Mountain Silversage while you are leveling the skill. I can see a lot of players (myself included) paying a premium on herbs to get the profession leveled.
I would also assume more players are spending their time completing the new daily quests instead of gathering helping to push prices up.
I posted a while ago that Gurubashi had no price changes, but prices on Primal Air went up to 30g last night, Adamantite at 30g/stack, I sold 7 uncut Blood Garnets at 8g each, and the spelldamage garnets were listed cheapest at 12g, Primal mana hit 19g, and LPS reached 33g. The price spike was smaller than Proudmoore, and strangely delayed for several days. I only sold off a few things, as prices may go higher, and volume is still not very massive.
The runic/golden spellthread pattern was also seen, Runics going unsold while people were asking in trade / had cleaned out the AH on Golden Spellthreads.
The increase in prices of herbs is quite possibly due to the quality of the new Alchemist's Stone(s) in particular the [Redeemer's Alchemist Stone]. Combined with the increased income from daily quests.
It takes roughly ~75 Golden Sansam ~40 Mountain Silversage while you are leveling the skill. I can see a lot of players (myself included) paying a premium on herbs to get the profession leveled.
I would also assume more players are spending their time completing the new daily quests instead of gathering helping to push prices up.
Sounds reasonable, but the increase in Ghost Mushrom and Gromsblood may also be due to the fact that Brutallus is a dps race and for all physical dps classes [Elixir of Demonslaying] is the best choice, and gromsblood and ghost mushrooms are the mats for those. On servers where guilds struggle with him I'd guess these two herbs are good sellers as well.
Our badge vendor opened during the night last night. So far yesterday evening proved to be a very busy day at the AH. I anticipated as much, and loaded the AH with all of my stocked up enchanting materials at high prices, and bought out many low priced materials to re-post. I had many many sales while in Black Temple for the evening.
I also loaded the AH with inflated prices on primals and various other materials. A few sold, but very few in comparison to the enchanting mats. I did manage to sell one Cobra Scale that I had lying around for 50g because none were on the AH....
All primal and some rare gem prices skyrocketed through the day yesterday as well, though most of that was not my doing. Naturally I took advantage of it though and put a few of my own spares up on the AH.
Time will tell if items actually sell at these prices. So far it is proving to be a good market for me. Most of my mules have all of their items which are worth selling up on the AH.
Just wondering if any other servers have seen an increases of over 50% on the prices of herbs, specifically Nightmare Vine, Golden Sansan and Terocones with the other herb prices remaining relatively stable although still prone to huge spikes on certain random days. I suspect in the case of our server it's just one or two people buying out all the stock and controlling the market since supply seems to have been diminshed by the 2.4 daily quests. Oddly enough this price hasn't translated into selling Elixirs (and flasks). Just seems like a slightly odd situation.
The reason flasks have not gone up in price is because fel lotus is much more plentiful now. Most other herbs have definitely seen an increase in price though - especially terocone which is borderline ridiculous most days.
This will clearly vary from person to person. For me, farming kara for badges is only one step above farming ele platue for primals or blood elves above BT for gold. So in that sense I'd almost always rather pay 200g for a vortex than have to farm for it for 2 hours. I enjoy playing the AH, I hate farming. it's that simple.
I also have a feeling that once the gem vendor goes up, 15 badges for 200g will look like an extremely foolish way to spend your badges.
I also have a feeling that once the gem vendor goes up, 15 badges for 200g will look like an extremely foolish way to spend your badges.
I disagree. While I obviously have no support for my claim, I think that 200g may be a bit on the low side but it is close to the price that epic gems will be at with the gem vendor coming out. I have seen the majority of the epic gems now go for 200-300 gold, the only one that still goes higher than that now is Spinels. I really think that the price of the gems from the vendor will be close to 200g - while probably higher, not significantly so. It may be slightly better money to wait for the vendor to come out, but even then, a lot of people are aware of the gem vendor coming out and the market should feel the effect of the prospective gem vendor - if people know that the value of 15 badges is going to be more in 2 weeks won't the market price of vortexes be higher?
Obviously just a random hypothesis with no real evidence to back up such a claim, but anecdotally I have seen a there are a number of people who have stockpiled badges and I think some of them at least would be willing to sell a badge for about 15-18g per badge, which is a bit higher than the current price of vortices but not incredibly so.
I also have a feeling that once the gem vendor goes up, 15 badges for 200g will look like an extremely foolish way to spend your badges.
If you look up the gems on Armory (US), it lists them as 10 badges. Not sure if that is intentional or not, but that may also change the pricing. Since 1 kara run would yield 2 gems, not just one.
I'm having luck with Runic Spellthreads, even after being weary of them since reading this thread lately. Even at inflated prices, I can stand to make 50-75g per thread after the common 50g per nether price just because mana's have actually gone down in price since the influx of dailies that allow the killing of mana-producing mobs.
Goldens, like most of said,are selling like hotcakes at extremely high prices, but the primal market has risen to match the mat->item cost difference.
Best thing about all these dailies now is that if you are a good farmer/ah'er, you are making even more of a killing that right at patch launch.
Everyone is getting lazy. Lots of people are getting this 'I'll do dailies and just buy primals' attitude. So there is constantly barely any on my AH and you get to just make up your own price.
You can name your price on certain primals because guilds learning new encounters require loads of them for cauldrons. Most guild banks have a lot of cash, but not a lot of things like primals sitting around.
So adamantite is stockpiling like crazy on the AH, I guess thanks to the sunfury nodes and people prospecting less(?) up to 7 pages of stacks on the AH and growing every day (up from formerly less than 1 page). No one is undercutting at all, there's like 6 pages at 25g from dozens of different people. Huge price crash coming soon? I'd keep an eye on it if you're server is the same.
Wow... after reading this thread, thinking I could make a killing from sinking some cash into stuff that I'd personally want, I was thoroughly disappointed. Absolutely NOTHING happened on my server after the badge vendor opened. Now I'm sitting with 2k worth of mats, fortunately it's stuff that moves fairly quickly anyway, and I picked it up at 85-90% of the market value, so I stand to possibly gain something, or at least not lose money on it, but the profits will be nowhere near the vast amounts I was expecting.
On the other hand, since I only bet on the sort of stuff I'd need myself, I can also use it for my own purposes. Not at the bargain prices I normally try for though.
The stuff that normally is rather cheap, super hpots and such have seen an increase though, so my stockpile of that is melting away at a decent pace.
Wow... after reading this thread, thinking I could make a killing from sinking some cash into stuff that I'd personally want, I was thoroughly disappointed. Absolutely NOTHING happened on my server after the badge vendor opened. Now I'm sitting with 2k worth of mats, fortunately it's stuff that moves fairly quickly anyway, and I picked it up at 85-90% of the market value, so I stand to possibly gain something, or at least not lose money on it, but the profits will be nowhere near the vast amounts I was expecting.
On the other hand, since I only bet on the sort of stuff I'd need myself, I can also use it for my own purposes. Not at the bargain prices I normally try for though.
The stuff that normally is rather cheap, super hpots and such have seen an increase though, so my stockpile of that is melting away at a decent pace.
Wait a few days before you start selling, prices may go up after the excess is eaten.
Wait a few days before you start selling, prices may go up after the excess is eaten.
Yep, pretty much what I was going for. Since the prices are more or less static there's not much for me to lose on this. Not much to win either, if the prices don't change.
We are about to hit Phase 3 and I have started gathering LPS mainly and got some cobra scales. Lets see how this pans out, current LPS prices are around 30g.
Had a great day at AH today, bought Badge of Tenacity for 9g, sold for 1400g AH price. Just to reiterate to people, AH playing is one of the best ways to make gold.
04/15/08, 9:35 PM
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