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11/21/07, 6:26 PM
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#251
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Glass Joe
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Might sound very basic, but what are people doing with all the Netherweave that they farm? On an extremely high population server, it's difficult to sell large quantities on the AH. Personally I've been converting my Netherweave into Heavy Bandages and selling those to vendors. This works out to 6 gold per stack of bandages or 3 gold per stack of NW. However, is there something I could be doing with it that's a bit more valuable?
Thanks.
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11/21/07, 6:32 PM
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#252
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Don Flamenco
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Back when I first got my epic mount I would farm the Supplicants (pull entire terrace, kill+loot, leash elite) and wait for them to repop. But I've found that there's another track of blood elves to gather that respawn in about the same timeframe, so the only downtime is flying back to the Aldor camp to empty my bags. Like the Supplicant pull it only really works for a paladin with tank gear (and is much easier with Sanctuary).
Starting at the bottom of the south ramp, just keep training up and make a U turn around the left. Head east along the temple wall and consecrate at the end. It's more dangerous and time consuming than the supplicant pull, and presumably the drops are slightly worse (half the mobs are 68-69 instead of all 70's) but it beats downtime. I made about 600g in 3 hours this weekend, and paid for some enchants in the process.
Apologies if the answer is staring me in the face, but I don't have a tailor or enchanter (yet): There's a guy who I COD cheap netherweave cloth to by the truckload, and he's always interested. I assume he's making bank off of it, but how?
[Edit] I see Silke had the same question  Personally, I COD my netherweave for 3g/stack to someone else who makes money from it. It's a guaranteed sale and I'd get the same price from turning it all into Netherweave Bandages for a vendor, except I can mail off 12 stacks at once instead of going afk for an hour.
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11/21/07, 6:38 PM
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#253
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Don Flamenco
Blood Elf Hunter
Mal'Ganis
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I would guess (from having used this method to get rid of unwanted Netherweave) that a tailor/enchanter will craft [Netherweave Bracers] or [Netherweave Belt], which is 18 Netherweave Cloth and a Rune Thread for 2-3 Arcane Dust or the occasional Lesser Planar Essence. This isn't hugely profitable (3g a stack of cloth + 40s thread for 4g or so of enchant mats), but if you need a lot of enchanting mats for some reason, it could be worthwhile.
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11/21/07, 6:58 PM
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#254
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Don Flamenco
Kirion
Tauren Shaman
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by Thumahr
Don't bother with the Skettis trees if you're an elemental shaman, they're nature immune. Had to frost shock kite the one I killed, dodging the elementals and birds was pretty hard.
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On the other hand, as resto i kill them easily. Earth shield, healing stream, shocks + flametongue. Slow, but easy 
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11/21/07, 7:57 PM
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#255
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In the Rafters
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Originally Posted by Silke
Might sound very basic, but what are people doing with all the Netherweave that they farm? On an extremely high population server, it's difficult to sell large quantities on the AH. Personally I've been converting my Netherweave into Heavy Bandages and selling those to vendors. This works out to 6 gold per stack of bandages or 3 gold per stack of NW. However, is there something I could be doing with it that's a bit more valuable?
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I'm somewhat surprised that you'd have trouble AHing netherweave. By the time I decided to retool my 70 priest as a tailor, I had about 5 alts brimming with cloth, filling all of their bank slots, and mail so full I had to empty it out just to see beyond the first 50 slots (thank goodness for 2.3!). My priest used it all, just to get to around 355.
Not that this helps you much, I suppose. If it's not selling, it's not selling. In that case, I'd say, check the price of dust and shards. If you're an enchanter/tailor, you can crunch 36 (48?) netherweave down into 3.5 dust on average, IIRC. Or, you can make INW and crunch that down into large shards. (Though to be honest, I'd be very, very surprised if that made money.)
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11/21/07, 8:03 PM
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#256
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never simple
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Kewangeder
I'm somewhat surprised that you'd have trouble AHing netherweave.
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I know I had trouble getting rid of my old netherweave on my server. The issue was this: When you create an auction, it adds it to the end of the list. If there are 8 pages of netherweave cloth, your cloth gets put on to the end of page 8. When you sorted the list (prior to 2.3) it would only sort your current page. So despite competitive pricing, your weave would still end up on page 8. That means that unless people are actively paging through all of the pages they're not going to see yours. I'm sure most people when buying it don't realize this, and just sort page 1 and buy the cheapest ones off there.
This is no longer an issue, as sorting in the AH sorts the entire listing of items, rather than just the single page. Unfortunately, it's now sorting by bid price instead of buyout price again. So the best way to have your price show up on top is to set a lower bid price instead of forcing you to set a lower buyout.
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11/21/07, 8:35 PM
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#257
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Argent Dawn (EU)
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First of all, a huge thank you to everyone writing in this thread. It has really helped me.
I'm not sure I've seen this mentioned, but if you can satisfy yourself with less (And less varying) profit/day, then simply buying your rare gems on the AH, cutting them and then selling them can easily earn you 100g-200g/day for no more effort than a few trips from a mailbox to the AH and back again. I found that prospecting Adamantite Ore had too great a chance of getting a rare gem that's worth a lot less than some of the others (Talasites, and to a lesser extent Dawnstones), and the best compromise I could find between making decent money and not taking too great a risk was simply buying the rare gems on the AH.
You only make 10-15g for each gem sold, but it adds up pretty quickly when you're the only one who sells some random popular gem at around 11 pm when people come back from raids. 
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11/21/07, 8:59 PM
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#258
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Soda Popinski
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Originally Posted by zeidrich
This is no longer an issue, as sorting in the AH sorts the entire listing of items, rather than just the single page. Unfortunately, it's now sorting by bid price instead of buyout price again. So the best way to have your price show up on top is to set a lower bid price instead of forcing you to set a lower buyout.
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It's sorting by buyout price for me last I checked (bought a bunch of enchanting materials two nights ago)
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11/21/07, 10:00 PM
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#259
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Glass Joe
Undead Warlock
Bloodscalp
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Originally Posted by Silke
Might sound very basic, but what are people doing with all the Netherweave that they farm? On an extremely high population server, it's difficult to sell large quantities on the AH. Personally I've been converting my Netherweave into Heavy Bandages and selling those to vendors. This works out to 6 gold per stack of bandages or 3 gold per stack of NW. However, is there something I could be doing with it that's a bit more valuable?
Thanks.
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Pretty server dependant, but as a tailor I sometimes buy stacks of cloth in large quantities and grab a stack of rune thread from a vendor and make a huge amount of Netherweave Bags. This is one of those items that I assumed would drop in price eventually, but it continues to do well. In general I spend about 3.5g for the mats for a bag and sell it for 7-9g. Not jaw-dropping income, but it doesn't get much easier. So to answer your question, I would definitely have a tailor turn your cloth into bags if your server's Netherweave Bag price is decent.
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Inignot: And remember, there's no such thing as a dumb question.
Happy Time Harry: I have a question.
Inignot: Yes, in the back, the retard with the dumb question.
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11/21/07, 10:07 PM
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#260
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Piston Honda
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There are a lot of people that don't realize Netherweave Bandages sell for 3g. Any time I am at the AH I check the netherweave for stacks with the bid/BO under 3g and just buy them all. It isn't much but, it adds up when you make 50s off 300 stacks in a week.
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11/21/07, 10:12 PM
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#261
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Needs to gem intellect IRL
Draenei Paladin
Frostmourne
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Originally Posted by nataku
someone of the opposing faction sees you as a free HK while you're engaged in combat with one.
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On this note, I've found that one of the easiest and most enjoyable (I'm a prick) ways to farm the trees is to wait for a member of the opposing faction to kill them. Then, and you have to time this very carefully, you let them loot it, and as soon as they start "skinning" it, you hit them with a spell or charge or whatever to interrupt them and finish them off. Depending on their class they'll generally be low on mana and often low on health too, making them an easy gank. You then skin the tree yourself, and maybe corpse camp them for a bit to add some insult to injury as well. I do a quick round, checking all the trees when I do my dailies in Skettis to see if I can grab some free honour and herbs, everytime I do dailies.
On my mage I got into the habit of eating/drinking to full before looting the trees, because I was always paranoid about stealthers or people hovering in the trees ready to swoop down on my kill.
edit - I've never had netherweave not sell for 3g44s on Blackrock horde. I don't even bother checking the current prices anymore, I just throw it up for that much. I could probably wrangle a few extra silver by checking as often as possible, but a 3g40 bid 3g44 buyout sells within half a day every time. If I'm farming with my brother (a mining / tailoring warlock) I generally get him to make the cloth into bracers/belts which I DE and then overprice the mats on the AH (I'm LOVING 48 hour auctions, especially with absolutely no cost to list enchanting mats -- just throw them up at an inflated price, and they'll generally sell within 1-4 days because people are lazy). Imbued netherweave robes are great as well, I often find these things for 18-20g, and resell the shards at 24g+.
Last edited by Mex : 11/21/07 at 10:32 PM.
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11/21/07, 10:17 PM
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#262
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Von Kaiser
Spayed
Draenei Hunter
Stormscale
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One day a year you can make several hundred gold if you've saved up stacks of small eggs.
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11/21/07, 10:49 PM
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#263
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Silke
Might sound very basic, but what are people doing with all the Netherweave that they farm?
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One stack of netherweave + 2 arcane dusts makes Bolt of Imbued Netherweave, which goes for 9-10g on my server. Even allowing 2g for each Arcane Dust, that's a profit of 3g per stack. I usually wait until I have about 30 stacks of cloth saved up, then pay a tailor 10g to convert it all for me.
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11/22/07, 12:16 AM
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#264
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Disillusioned Lifebloom Whore
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I've found that basic adamantite prospecting is a huge money win -- just set a price at which you know you'll buy adamantite ore (22g or so is my threshold), and even without learning any blue cuts, you can make a ton of money on basic gems.
Depends on your server's adamantite economy, I suppose. But it easily paid for my leveling of jewelcrafting.
Last edited by Melador : 11/22/07 at 12:31 AM.
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11/22/07, 5:40 AM
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#265
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Don Flamenco
Dwarf Warrior
Eredar (EU)
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Originally Posted by Silke
Might sound very basic, but what are people doing with all the Netherweave that they farm? On an extremely high population server, it's difficult to sell large quantities on the AH. Personally I've been converting my Netherweave into Heavy Bandages and selling those to vendors. This works out to 6 gold per stack of bandages or 3 gold per stack of NW. However, is there something I could be doing with it that's a bit more valuable?
Thanks.
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I have a guildmate that crafts me "netherweave panties" from all my netherweave from time to time. With these panties I go to another guildmate and have him disenchant them. You will get some nice amount of planar essences and arcane dust this way. You could sell or keep them.
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11/22/07, 5:46 AM
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#266
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Piston Honda
Undead Rogue
Al'Akir (EU)
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Originally Posted by Stinkerbelle
One day a year you can make several hundred gold if you've saved up stacks of small eggs.
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I remember making around a 100g selling Milk on the AH. People are so damned stupid at times.
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11/22/07, 6:46 AM
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#267
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Always carry a white flag
Undead Death Knight
Twisting Nether (EU)
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About the whole crafting and disenchanting netherweave stuff, I've found on my server it's usually not worth the time. At best you'll gain like 1gold every 10stacks, which while it's still a gain, is a really small one. I sell my stacks directly on the AH for 3.5 to 3.75 depending on how fast I want them to sell, and even tho it's one of the most populated server in europe(yay queue times), they sell all the time. Converting them to goods then disenchanting(which I can do both myself) will rarely net me more from enchanting mats, unless obviously you're lucky and get a prismatic from a green.
So haven't found anything to do with netherweave but selling it directly, but the converting to imbued netherweave thing might be interesting, I guess it depends on how easy imbued netherweave sells. I've found that something that doesn't sell the first time is a waste of money since you lose the auction fee, usually killing profits.
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11/22/07, 7:04 AM
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#268
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Pyros
I've found that something that doesn't sell the first time is a waste of money since you lose the auction fee, usually killing profits.
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With regards to something not selling the first time you post it for auction:
Don't post it unless you're going to sell it. My bank mule has bags full of stuff that I don't have on the ah because it won't sell right now. It still retains it's value, the market is just not favourable. Pick your spots, and try not to just dump stuff on the market. I'm always looking for bargains in my AH, even if it's because of someone dumping huge amounts of stock onto the market and depressing prices. The things that I buy are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them, not what my auctioneer addon says. If I wait for supply to shorten up on some things, I can gain a larger profit, while still churning some things through. For example, I'm always buying shards, essences, and dusts when they're low, just to turn a profit by putting a stack up. For this, I tend to trust auctioneer to find the bargains, then just try to act on them in the most beneficial way. The fact enchanting mats have no deposit it just a bonus.
My server is Oceanic, so peak server times are from 5pm to about 2am. during these times, I don't bother putting in a bid, since I'm more likely to be beaten, and less likely to get the item. Buyouts I can get cheap, I do. For the most part, patience is the single most beneficial asset to someone who wants to play the WoW markets. Not a big bankroll to start them, not a specific profession (although some of them truly help), just a little patience.
EDIT: I thought of an exception to my rule: If something is a large enough value-add, for example, skyfire diamond into mystical skyfire diamond, I do tend to just put it up over and over. The margin is large enough that it's not really relevant. one or two more auctions won't murder your bottom line. I tend to do this with my cut gems because the margin's large enough for me to always have one up.
Last edited by Kombinat : 11/22/07 at 7:08 AM.
Reason: Additional thoughts.
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11/22/07, 7:18 AM
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#269
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Piston Honda
Blood Elf Mage
Talnivarr (EU)
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Haha agreed, inspired by this topic I bought 120 [Star Wood] which cost 45s each. An invested of 54g, bought by the enchanting vendor. When 2.3 hitted the realms and the Star Wood was needed for the engineering flying mount I sold 14 stacks of 8 (needed for the machine, sold 112 Star Wood in total).
14x 20g from selling is 280g. Substract the 54g from that and an easy profit of 234 gold for about 10 minutes of running around and putting it on the AH. Ironic considering the Wood is available at the vendor only 20 sec away from the AH.
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11/22/07, 8:01 AM
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#270
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King Hippo
Draenei Shaman
Frostwolf (EU)
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Originally Posted by Makesha
First of all, a huge thank you to everyone writing in this thread. It has really helped me.
I'm not sure I've seen this mentioned, but if you can satisfy yourself with less (And less varying) profit/day, then simply buying your rare gems on the AH, cutting them and then selling them can easily earn you 100g-200g/day for no more effort than a few trips from a mailbox to the AH and back again. I found that prospecting Adamantite Ore had too great a chance of getting a rare gem that's worth a lot less than some of the others (Talasites, and to a lesser extent Dawnstones), and the best compromise I could find between making decent money and not taking too great a risk was simply buying the rare gems on the AH.
You only make 10-15g for each gem sold, but it adds up pretty quickly when you're the only one who sells some random popular gem at around 11 pm when people come back from raids. 
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I'm doing this on my alt as well. Originally I leveled jewelcrafting just for prospecting but in general this wasn't all that profitable since adamantite was very stable hovering at 28-30 G a stack. Nowadays you can sometimes get a stack for 20 -22 which is where I'm willing to buy since even Talasite cuts sell for that much. I'm trying to get one good cut for every color and never flood the market with my stuff. Unfortunately there are other sellers which do cut into your margins sometimes. But it works, albeit I consider 10 G a good profit per cut (including fees it will sometimes only be like 5 G, but even that's ok).
I will probably dump some talasites and dawnstones into the AH as resilience cuts when season 3 hits. Same applies for enchanting mats. I guess that even higher priced items will still find a seller even though the top notch teams will have procured BT/Hyal gems already. But even the larger crowd will be able to buy 1-2 arena parts, not to mention those with twinks who will buy S1 gladiator stuff for honor. I might consider selling my whole personal reserve on this opportunity.
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11/22/07, 3:22 PM
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#271
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Von Kaiser
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This thread is great. Lots of good advice in here.
One thing I haven't seen yet: Snowballs.
Yes, Snowballs. I bought about 400 stacks of them during Christmas last year, and filled two or three bank alts bags with them. For the first couple months after Xmas, the AH is flooded with them so it's not really worth it to post them. But after that, I've been selling snowballs consistently all year long for 75s-3g a stack. Anytime I post something up on my mule, I check snowball prices and put a few stacks up there. Sometimes you may want to buyout the really cheap stacks people put up there, so you can control the market better. But I've been able to sell some snowball stacks for 3-5g each at times.
27 copper per stack from the vendor --- wait a little while --- sell for 1-5g on the AH.
It's not a HUGE money maker, and it takes a lot of patience, but that's a pretty big profit margin over time.
A good supplement to your normal income with minimal investment.
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11/22/07, 3:28 PM
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#272
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Maniq is awesome.
Troll Rogue
Nazjatar (EU)
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You BOUGHT snowballs? You DO know you can gather them for free in any snowy area during Winter Veil?
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11/22/07, 3:36 PM
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#273
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Von Kaiser
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Yes.. but I'd rather spend the 10-15g and take 2 minutes to buy them all and send them off, then run around like a chicken with my head cut off trying to gather 200+ stacks of snowballs. I can think of much more efficient uses of my time.
I'd estimate I've made at least 500g+ on snowballs alone over the past 6-8 months. It's nothing huge, but its a decent buffer.
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11/22/07, 3:50 PM
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#274
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Always carry a white flag
Undead Death Knight
Twisting Nether (EU)
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Oh snowballs, I used to have the only snowball machine on horde after the first xmas, I sold a few every now and then. Didn't they make it so you can't use them offseason anymore tho?
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11/22/07, 3:52 PM
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#275
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never simple
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Lord BEEF
It's sorting by buyout price for me last I checked (bought a bunch of enchanting materials two nights ago)
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Very odd, I know for a fact that it's sorting for bid price for me as of last night. I don't think I have any mods that would be changing this behavior. Items with a higher buyout were being listed sooner than items with a higher one if they had a lower bid price.
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