I don't know about epics, but if you're fortunate on the drop and diligent in your auction house monitoring you can make a bundle selling Stabilized Eternium Scopes.

I'm the only one on Malygos who routinely makes them. I profit about 500g/week spending 45min on the smelting and crafting.

So, the gem vendor just went up on Proudmoore 20 minutes ago.... and gems prices just skyrocketed, to about 150g more on average than the prices they were at before the vendor. I see Crimson Spinels having gone from 500g to 650g, Lionseyes from 250g to 450g, even Seaspray Emeralds are listing at 250g when they had been about 175g. I would speculate that these are artificially inflated prices and that chances of those auctions selling are pretty small... I'm sure we will see prices stabilize in about 24 hours or so. I will monitor the situation and report back here soon
Edit: just to confirm, it is 15 badges per gem.

Just bad guesses on pricing by "non-experts" I know for a fact that about 4 of those gems came from a sunwell trash run that was on at the same time including the 650g Crimson Spinel. I sold 2 lionseyes at 400g this morning which suprised me as I was sure people wouid be holding out for the vendor.

There are at least 4 active Sunwell trash (pug) runs that have been going steadily for the past two weeks, with one of the leaders running his group up to 5 times a day. I would have thought that having the increased supply of gems on the market would have brought down the prices already, but they have stayed more stable than predicted. But anyway, I put up two pre-cut spinels (I chose the +10 Agility cut since there were already 2 of the +12 Spell Damage on the AH) at 450g each and they sold about an hour ago. I would suspect that in the next few hours you could make a decent profit, but by tonight, the market will be flooded.

Not everyone will be holding out to buy them direct from the vendor. Anyone who's still shy on badge gear (face it, there's a ton of it- especially for people gearing multiple specs or new to 70. I still need about 100 badges to finish out my nifty shadow set that I only wear when smiting mobs for my dailies.) but heavy on gold will be looking forward to the vendor not to buy from it- but so that they can take advantage of the increased supply.

That said, people get impatient or have bad auctioneer scans or just don't scan the AH often enough to know the current value and might clear out some of the over priced gems before they start (hopefully) flooding the market and dragging the price down. I'll be watching Proudmoore closely =)

That's interesting. I tried doing that a few months back, but it was taking me an average of two weeks to sell one scope for about 300g, so I gave up. The guns made me a lot more cash, but I've stopped making them for now because I am assuming the people that want one can now collect all of the mats and then go up to any 375 engineer.

Those recipes are not in game yet, and will be added with the 2.4.2 patch.

Quick market report: 12 hours have passed (roughly) and uncut gems prices have already leveled slightly, with Spinels listing as low as 300g (but still several listed at 450g+), Lionseyes and Pyrestones at 400g on average, and other gems at about the same prices that they were before the vendor. Interesting to note that pre-cut gems are listing at higher prices, and from what I have seen in trade channel, are selling for slightly less than the uncut gems (most likely someone just looking to dump their stock before the prices go down again).

How do they compare to prices of Vortexes (since they have the same badge cost)?

What is it doing to the blue gem market?

I did see some people in trade channel trying to sell spinels for 200-250 about 12 hours ago.

It seems like 300g spinels are selling quite well, as the AH only had those 450+ spinels when I checked a few hours ago. However, there were several people selling for 300 in the trade channel as well. Vortexes are usually around 300 in the AH, but you can almost always find someone willing to sell it for 200 at any time of the day just by asking in trade.

I did not notice a difference with blue gems at all.

Now might be a good time for non-enchanters (if you have a guildie who won't mind shattering for you) and enchanters alike to pick up any severely underpriced void crystals. On my server, for some unknown reason, some void crystals are going for as low as equal to LPS price (around 27g on my server). With the change to void shatter, LPS price would have to drop more than 13g in order to not to make a profit out of these.

I don't doubt the price will go down for LPSs, perhaps even crashing the market temporarily, but eventually (purely speculation), it should even back up at around 5-7g under what it is now.

I purchased several stacks the minute the 2.4.2 patch notes were posted. Paid about 21g per VC. I'm looking forward to the patch! Prices now are around 35-40g per VC (with cheaper VCs dropping no lower than 30g and disappearing quickly,) with the LPS's around 21-27g and a lot of them on the AH now. So I predict VCs will stabilize around 40g and LPSs will finally drop to 20g to match on my server (assuming the patch news has been discounted.) I'll revisit this once the patch is released.

Personally, I have experienced much higher prices for nearly everything since 2.4.
Primals and LPS for example are now sold for about 10g more per piece. In my opinion, there are two reasons for this. First of all, people need enchants now that they have a proper badgedump. But also the new dailys have a huge impact on prices. The possibility to make about 300g/day easily is naturally leading to influation. I dont know if the prices for epic gems will go down in the future when you can obtain them for badges, I think people are able to pay higher prices, so they will.

An another note, I've made an absolute killing selling [Red Belt of Battle] and [Belt of the Guardian]. I've sold at least one every day for the last week and a half for 1,650 each. I have yet to have to relist an item; they sell so well.

Even with current inflated prices, it takes about 400g worth of mats + 2x [Nether Vortex] (which I usually get from badges, but buy some low priced ones on the AH when I see them); I'm still getting a massive profit for a very minimal effort.

The market for [Nethercobra Leg Armor] is pretty slow on my server. I have never ever seen anybody other than me list them in AH, and I have never seen anybody else advertise them in trade chat. Odd. I list them around 550 , mats are usually around 450 or more

LPS hover around 23g buyout, void crystals have gone up to almost 40.
There's little margin in crafting blues for DEing, but it still pays to scan for low priced blues, often from people leveling up professions. This morning I picked up 10 [Imbued Netherweave Boots] that were listed for 13g bid / 15g buyout.

I have not seen any epic gems in the AH in a long time, and it just used to be some overpriced seaspray emeralds.

My best consistent money makers are still Relentless Earthstorm Diamond. Uncut they go for 90-100g, cut for 140ish.

I've been asking guildies to craft me [Belt of the Long Road] and [Belt of Blasting], been making 500g profit. But unlike Zalein, I've usually had to relist them once at least.
They always sell at bid price, which is 1680g (with a 1750g buyout).

The problem I've encountered, is that I'm able to single-handedly dry out the market for a primal (like fire primals) whenever I want to craft more than one belt :/
Either that, or people notice and list primals 10-30g more than what they usually go for. Cheap nethers can be found for 50-60g price range, but as of this post, there are 2 up on the AH, and both are at 100+g.
Cuts heavily into profits...

I've sold all 4 of the belts, but for far less of a markup than is being mentioned here. This may be due to higher competition on Cenarius. My competition is mostly guild crafters who will make for mats + tips or a small fee and the occasional 1 or 2 belt crafter.
Typical Worst case prices
Primal Fire 30
Primal Water 30
Primal Life 30
Primal Earth 4
Imbued Netherweave 5
Hardened Adamantite 35
Nether Vortex 225

Belt of battle
Price 1249
Cost 925
Profit 261

Belt of the guardian
Price 1299
Cost 945
Profit 289

Belt of Blasting
Price 1299
Cost 920
Profit 314

Belt of the Long Road
Price 1499
Cost 1070
Profit 354


You can make quite a bit of gold doing it but even a little competition drives down the prices and profit quite a bit.

i never got the mats, i got a guildie to run me through. it is possible to get them now, having completed the quest?

The reason they sell, I have sold a few, is that many people don't grind Consortium rep. It was actually easier to sell the rolfcopter than the special elemental seaforium charges required to make it.

Well I am still surprised at how well the market for primal fire and air have held up on my server. If I need an infusion of cash I just go farm air nodes and occasionally water nodes. Only primal mana seems to have stayed tanked, like at 10g while the fire,water, and air are routinely in the twenties and thirties.

One thing I ran into while helping kit out some guild members rerolls was the astronomical pricing on greens in the 20-40 range. doesn't even have to be on the 8s or 9s, the prices are all in the forty to fifty gold range for greens! Is this some new trick in gold selling or am I just seeing someone trying to exploit the BGs; which I didn't think 29/39 brackets were popular.

As for other interesting mats, LPS are as low as 20 in open chat, usually 5g higher on AH. Nether is 110+ as are mights. I depleted my stock on the former that I had snapped up on 2.4 release making a tidy profit. I had bought a few stacks at approximate 60 each on the idea that the market would flood and then dry up quickly as badges would have better value elsewhere.

Now, if they would just let us sell badges I'd be all set

Been like that on our server as well, for some time now, though not those sums, more like in8 -20 gold range. My guess is that people realized that disenchanters and their friends&familiy were making a huge profit on DEing the cheap greens of all ranges - while selling the enchanting mats for astronomical prices (Greater Nether Essence is 8-11 gold each, Greater Eternal Essence is 18-22, illusion dusts are 3-5g, as an example). That coupled with the fact that very few people are doing low level instances more than once (if that), and that there is no big supply of low level greens while the demand could be quite high with alts and twinks, prices are just showing that.

Just farm Knothide Leather in Nagrand, or Skettis for Primal Waters. Also, if you're a rogue, you can solo bosses in BRd and disenchant blues. Get a large brilliant shard and sell it. On my server, they sell from 7-10g. Easy to make 50-100g in like half an hour.