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Old 05/01/08, 11:43 AM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #2751
Zupal
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Originally Posted by Wickedgirl View Post
Been like that on our server as well, for some time now, though not those sums, more like in8 -20 gold range. My guess is that people realized that disenchanters and their friends&familiy were making a huge profit on DEing the cheap greens of all ranges - while selling the enchanting mats for astronomical prices (Greater Nether Essence is 8-11 gold each, Greater Eternal Essence is 18-22, illusion dusts are 3-5g, as an example). That coupled with the fact that very few people are doing low level instances more than once (if that), and that there is no big supply of low level greens while the demand could be quite high with alts and twinks, prices are just showing that.
In this vein, I've found the below *old world* tailoring items to have a very good profit margin:

[Cindercloth Pants]
[Frostweave Pants]
[Runecloth Belt] (dream dust but still can be worth it)

Essence of Fire and (and somtimes Water) can be bought very cheap so the first two can provide excellent returns. Runecloth on my server is inexpensive so you don't end up spending much on that. I spend ~3.5G to craft Cindercloth Pants which is at least break even and can be 100-600% profit depending on what it DEs to.

[Sylvan Shoulders]

Can be decent depending on the spider silk. Prior to the LPS shard market dropping they were much more profitable.

Generally the other recipes don't appear to be worthwhile. There may be lower level ones but I focus on illusion dust/GEE producing recipes.
 
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Old 05/01/08, 12:10 PM   #2752
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Originally Posted by Wickedgirl View Post
Been like that on our server as well, for some time now, though not those sums, more like in8 -20 gold range. My guess is that people realized that disenchanters and their friends&familiy were making a huge profit on DEing the cheap greens of all ranges - while selling the enchanting mats for astronomical prices (Greater Nether Essence is 8-11 gold each, Greater Eternal Essence is 18-22, illusion dusts are 3-5g, as an example). That coupled with the fact that very few people are doing low level instances more than once (if that), and that there is no big supply of low level greens while the demand could be quite high with alts and twinks, prices are just showing that.
You hit the nail on the head. I've been making a killing off DEing cheap greens on the AH and selling the mats. Specifically the greater nether and eternal essences. Some nights I find that no essences of either type are listed at all and I can mark up another 50% and still sell. It's going to be even better when WoTLK launches because people will be that much further from the greens that DE into these mats.
 
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Old 05/01/08, 1:23 PM   #2753
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I'm at a loss here. The AH economy on my server has gone absolutely insane the past few weeks. Our epic gem vendor is not even out yet (54%), 2.4.2 is who knows how long away.. and yet the cost on nearly anything has jumped up by 10-15g on average and stayed that way for at least the past two weeks. I'll give a few examples:

Adamantite Ore (x20): Normal: ~25g, Now: 33-40g
Primal Earth (x20): Normal: ~80g, Now: 125-130g
Terocone (x20): Normal: ~29g, Now: 40-45g

Meanwhile.. the blue quality gems are the same they have always been. All other primals are pretty much the same (~30g each), Nether Vortexes are holding steady at ~200g each. Large Prismatic Shards have actually dropped in price, down to about 24g each from 30. A lot of other things have actually dropped in cost.. green gems, enchanting mats, etc. I'm not really sure what to attribute all these random fluctuations to. I realize LPS can be due to the removal of the Void Shatter cooldown.. but it seems like almost all raw materials are steadily rising in price while the end stuff is actually dropping. So it's almost at the point where I can't even make any money from my normal profession tricks. Prospecting is almost not worth it at this point with the high prices of ore, and with the rise in other mats and the lowering of LPS, DEing Eternium Chains for shards is a waste of money. Looks like I need a new niche =/

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Old 05/01/08, 6:21 PM   #2754
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Kul Tiras
Originally Posted by Shroomism View Post
I'm at a loss here. The AH economy on my server has gone absolutely insane the past few weeks. Our epic gem vendor is not even out yet (54%), 2.4.2 is who knows how long away.. and yet the cost on nearly anything has jumped up by 10-15g on average and stayed that way for at least the past two weeks. I'll give a few examples:

Adamantite Ore (x20): Normal: ~25g, Now: 33-40g
Primal Earth (x20): Normal: ~80g, Now: 125-130g
Terocone (x20): Normal: ~29g, Now: 40-45g

Meanwhile.. the blue quality gems are the same they have always been. All other primals are pretty much the same (~30g each), Nether Vortexes are holding steady at ~200g each. Large Prismatic Shards have actually dropped in price, down to about 24g each from 30. A lot of other things have actually dropped in cost.. green gems, enchanting mats, etc. I'm not really sure what to attribute all these random fluctuations to. I realize LPS can be due to the removal of the Void Shatter cooldown.. but it seems like almost all raw materials are steadily rising in price while the end stuff is actually dropping. So it's almost at the point where I can't even make any money from my normal profession tricks. Prospecting is almost not worth it at this point with the high prices of ore, and with the rise in other mats and the lowering of LPS, DEing Eternium Chains for shards is a waste of money. Looks like I need a new niche =/
Little of this is particularly hard to explain in the context of 2.4. Herbs, Ore, and Skins are going up in price because everyone's doing tons of dailies and flooding the economy with gold. People may also be dropping gathering professions (or just not using them), because they see the dailies as an accessible cashflow to replace their previous gathering income. Blue gem prices are resisting this inflation because their supply has been increased by Brilliant Glass. Same for LPS and Void Shatter.
 
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Old 05/02/08, 9:21 AM   #2755
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Originally Posted by ZeroWashu View Post
The reason they sell, I have sold a few, is that many people don't grind Consortium rep. It was actually easier to sell the rolfcopter than the special elemental seaforium charges required to make it.
You'd think so but ever since the introduction of that pattern I've been selling 4x Seaforiums for between 38.80 and 53.80 at a rate of about six to ten batches of four per week. I'm mystified who exactly buys the damned things as often I'll find in my mail that two or three batches were bought by the same person!

I've had to relist it on the odd occasion but I never go through a weekend without selling four batches. At a markup of 4.75x at worst it's a shame this market is capped in capacity, though pleasingly almost nobody sells except me so it's practically a monopoly.
 
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Old 05/02/08, 10:43 AM   #2756
Smurrf
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Lothar
Perhaps it's someone who uses the charges to blow stuff up? Engineers can use these to open chests and certain locked doors, correct?

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Old 05/02/08, 12:10 PM   #2757
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Originally Posted by Smurrf View Post
Perhaps it someone who uses the charges to blow stuff up? Engineers can use these to open chests and certain locked doors, correct?
They won't spend 10g to open up a chest worth on average 5g. And purchasing in 4 packs is a sure sign of use in crafting.
 
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Old 05/02/08, 1:11 PM   #2758
TheCutlery
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Originally Posted by tedv View Post
They won't spend 10g to open up a chest worth on average 5g. And purchasing in 4 packs is a sure sign of use in crafting.
Aside from the obvious 4 pack meaning probably the engineering mount, I would absolutely pay 10g to not have to run thru the sewers in SH. I keep a stack of charges on my engineers simply for that, since the majority of your pug rogues can't pick locks, let alone DPS.
 
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Old 05/02/08, 10:25 PM   #2759
Miccan
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Human Warlock
 
Icecrown
The chests for me average out to around 45g in value each. The gold alone is 6+, green or a chance for a blue, + gems. The charges are easily worth the value of the chest if you can find a way to get to them and aren't a rogue.
 
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Old 05/03/08, 6:54 PM   #2760
Macblade
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Draenei Shaman
 
Windrunner
Originally Posted by Miccan View Post
The chests for me average out to around 45g in value each. The gold alone is 6+, green or a chance for a blue, + gems. The charges are easily worth the value of the chest if you can find a way to get to them and aren't a rogue.
Pretty sure he means lock boxes, which have no gold just a crappy green 90%+ of the time.
 
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Old 05/03/08, 10:30 PM   #2761
savernon
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Night Elf Druid
 
Mannoroth
No, he means chests. The seaforium charges are used on chests and doors, I don't think a lockbox is even a valid target for them.
 
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Old 05/03/08, 11:05 PM   #2762
Xequecal
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Dwarf Paladin
 
Khadgar
Seaforium charges definitely will blow open a lockbox. I wouldn't recommend doing that, but it works. Also, 10g a charge? 3-4g per charge is more like it.

Also, Nethercobra Leg Armors will never stop being profitable. Relatively few people are exalted with HH, as the HH instances are exceptionally annoying if you don't know a Paladin tank.

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Old 05/03/08, 11:27 PM   #2763
Smurrf
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Just for the record, yes, I did mean chests inside of instances; not lockboxes.

What I was thinking about are the people who'll go in and solo (or duo) their way to chests specifically to farm them out. Considering the time it can take, however, I wouldn't be surprised to see people buying charges so they don't waste that effort if the chest happens to be locked. And if the person in question was the only one selling charges, well, it would explain why they're being bought in 4 packs.
 
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Old 05/04/08, 5:26 AM   #2764
Mynea
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Originally Posted by Xequecal View Post
Also, 10g a charge? 3-4g per charge is more like it.
I sell these for 11-12g a charge, also in stacks of four. You're not charging for mats, here, you're putting in a huge convenience markup so people don't have to farm their own Consortium rep.
 
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Old 05/05/08, 9:45 AM   #2765
Sarkan-ZdC
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Human Paladin
 
Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)
Just for Stocks:

Regal Nightseye has been added with 2.4

As far as I know there is no Regal Shadowsong Amethyst. Does anybody know if there will be on with 2.4.2 or with the Gem-Vendor P4?

Cause Regal Nightseye sell very high on my server (about 5-10 gold more then the other Nightseye), and I assume that the same goes for Shadowsong Amethyst with Dodge/Stamina.

Oh and by the way: Thanks for all the valuable inputs. I had for about 6 Month 3k-3,5k Gold, read here, started to trade about 9 or 10 days ago. Now I'm at 8,5k gold.
 
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Old 05/05/08, 11:35 PM   #2766
Dollar
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Korgath
Since the main thing that keeps me from making gold is I don't feel any need to so it feels like a waste of time I figured I'd post something thats been a fun motivator and a way to challenge myself.

Make an alt and bring them to a city, send them 100 gold. Using only the auction house see how much gold you can make. So far I've made about 15k all starting from that 100 gold. It was fun for me anyways.

"Oh he's a sad little man? He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?"
 
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Old 05/06/08, 5:40 AM   #2767
sadistic
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Grim Batol (EU)
Now that a few more servers have gotten their gemvendors, any reports on how the economy on epicgems is progressing?
 
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Old 05/06/08, 9:38 AM   #2768
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Originally Posted by sadistic View Post
Now that a few more servers have gotten their gemvendors, any reports on how the economy on epicgems is progressing?
In a related vein, what happens to the market for rare and uncommon gems once the epic gem vendor comes out?
 
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Old 05/06/08, 3:19 PM   #2769
Mystz0r
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Kazzak (EU)
I like exploring new opportunities to make money; sure I rub my hands every time a Nethercobra Leg Armor sells and makes me 100g profit, but the usual AH sales tricks does have its limits - sometimes I just want do do something mind numbing while listening to music after a hard day at work. For this, I have a rogue alt with epic flying mount and 375 mining/herbalism, and I just wanted peoples opinions on how you make the most money with this combo. At the moment, Nightmare Vines are at a staggering 65g/stack on my server, so I basically tour Shadowmoon Valley most of the time - does anyone have other routes they they'd like to share?
 
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Old 05/06/08, 3:46 PM   #2770
Xhunter
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Tauren Shaman
 
Frostmane
Nightmare Vine in SMV
Netherbloom in Netherstorm
Terocone in Terokkar Forest

I always pick up Gaining the Advantage quest from Shattrath City before heading out to herb...
 
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Old 05/06/08, 4:04 PM   #2771
Linnet
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Undead Warrior
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Thorium is going for upwards of 65g a stack on AD at the moment. Maybe it's that time of year again for people to level tradeskills?
 
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Old 05/06/08, 4:06 PM   #2772
Angeron
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Originally Posted by sadistic View Post
Now that a few more servers have gotten their gemvendors, any reports on how the economy on epicgems is progressing?
As I predicted several pages back: Epic gem prices have increased for every type. Seasprays went from 90g per to 200g per, sapphires from 150 to 250, pyrestones fro 250 to 300, spinels from 400 to 600, etc. Normal gem prices are currently the same but expect a significant (10-15g) shift in prices over the next week.

Though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable; I simply am not there.
 
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Old 05/06/08, 4:08 PM   #2773
Har
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Drenden
Thorium is hard to find- one of the most frustrating experiences I had getting my mining to 375 was the 250-300 thorium grind. I used a ton of it in my engineering training too.
 
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Old 05/06/08, 5:38 PM   #2774
oldmandennis
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Originally Posted by Har View Post
Thorium is hard to find- one of the most frustrating experiences I had getting my mining to 375 was the 250-300 thorium grind. I used a ton of it in my engineering training too.
Not if you are casual about it. You park your miner in one of the spots like ungoro or EPL, mine whatever is up, then log off and do something else for ~1/2 hr.

It would be a bitch if you were making a push for mining **right now** or trying to work on Engineering for tomorrows raid, but if you are just trying to make some $$ you can get good value that way.
 
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Old 05/06/08, 5:38 PM   #2775
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Originally Posted by Har View Post
Thorium is hard to find- one of the most frustrating experiences I had getting my mining to 375 was the 250-300 thorium grind. I used a ton of it in my engineering training too.
I assume you did the standard Un'goro -> Silithus circuits? It was mind numbing, but not *that* bad for me, and this was before they upped the drop rate per node. It's possible that my server/timing was more favorable than yours, however.
 
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