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Old 11/22/07, 7:29 PM   #276
Xanrag
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If you had some [Preserved Holly] they sold really well after the patch now that you can get flying reindeers. I sold a few for 11g per holly, didn't have too many though.
 
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Old 11/22/07, 10:19 PM   #277
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Another method I was using for a while, was to find cheap herbs on the AH and craft potions.
Even though I'm a lazy herbalist.. (I tend to horde all the herbs I farm for myself)
I would often buy the cheapest herbs in bulk on the AH and use them (at first to proc discoveries but then kept doing it to make gold)

One example.. back before 2.3 when ragveil was cheap as dirt (on my server.. you could buy a stack for 2-3g). I would buy a couple stacks of ragveil, and some felweed stacks (my rule of thumb was to never pay more than 10g for a stack of felweed).. then I would craft Elixirs of Major Fortitude. (With Elixir Mastery)

23g (max) spent per stack of Elixirs.
Sold elixirs for 12-13g per 5 = 46-50g return
23-30g profit from each stack. (even more if the felweed was cheap that week)

Doesn't really work anymore now that ragveil is much more expensive. But if you're smart about it and know your server's economy you can use this method with other potions to make a nice chunk of change with very little time invested.

Of course you could always farm the herbs yourself and make it pure profit...

I'm not a jewelcrafter but I can make some decent money selling gems..
I team up with my JC buddy. I constantly scan for cheap gems, use my mule to buy gems when they are at their cheapest (generally a 10g profit or more). Get my buddy to craft the gems for me and sell them for a nice 10-20g profit.

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Old 11/22/07, 11:30 PM   #278
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I friend of mine who has several high-level alts trains them all in transmute spec alchemy and mooncloth tailoring. He can sell a mooncloth bag every 4 days for around 350g, well beyond the cost of the primals. His strategy for alchemy is to transmute in circles: he has like four or five primals floating between his alts, and after one or two discoveries or rep recipes he can transmute one primal back to itself through about four intermediate steps--each of which has the chance to proc a primal or four. Being cooldown-based, there's a hard cap on just how much cash you can make with this method per week, but the time investment is approximately the loading time and casting time of your transmute, once you've gotten your alts tradeskills up high enough. Leveling tailoring also gives you something to do with all your netherweave if it doesn't sell well on your server.

 
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Old 11/23/07, 2:20 AM   #279
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Originally Posted by PSGarak View Post
His strategy for alchemy is to transmute in circles: he has like four or five primals floating between his alts, and after one or two discoveries or rep recipes he can transmute one primal back to itself through about four intermediate steps--each of which has the chance to proc a primal or four.
That's a horrible idea. Just do Earth->Water every time, buy the earth for 3-6g, sell the water for 12-20g, depending on server.
 
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Old 11/23/07, 3:12 AM   #280
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I would agree that doing Earth -> Water will net you a better profit, especially given that the transmute specialisation seems to have a fairly low chance to proc (I'd guess 20% or lower). However, you need revered Sporregar to get that transmute and I'm guessing farming Bog Lord Tendrils and Sanguine Hibisci would get old really, really fast.
 
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Old 11/23/07, 3:44 AM   #281
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It only cost me ~200g to get exalted with Sporeggar. I bought Sanguine Hibiscus from the auction house for ~1g each. After doing this on my alt alchemist I did it again on my main for the tabard.

Might be a little bit more expensive now with all the pet collectors getting exalted for the spore bat.
 
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Old 11/23/07, 10:41 AM   #282
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There is a quest from the guys in Sporegar that nets you 750 rep per turn in. I was able to get the recipe in one day of farming when I was 70.

Now That We're Still Friends... - Quests - World of Warcraft
 
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Old 11/23/07, 11:29 AM   #283
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Originally Posted by hurricane View Post
There is a quest from the guys in Sporegar that nets you 750 rep per turn in. I was able to get the recipe in one day of farming when I was 70.

Now That We're Still Friends... - Quests - World of Warcraft
A better way to farm Sporregar rep I found is to grind the bats in NorthWest Zangarmarsh, they have a droprate of about 30% for fertile spores, which can be turned in, in stacks of 10 for 750 rep and a Glowcap. More Fertile Spores - Quests - World of Warcraft. Theres loads of them and no one is ever killing them, do one pass all down the coast and then fly back to the start, by then they will have respawned and you can go again.

With regards to farming rep, i find this website to be incredibly useful to find the quickest ways to grind. Nihilum.eu - World of Warcraft Gaming
 
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Old 11/23/07, 4:11 PM   #284
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Great link Slash, thanks for a nice new tool to add to my collection.

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Old 11/23/07, 6:48 PM   #285
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If you're looking for a change of pace, and your server actually has some market for this, it's not a bad idea to cater to some of the "collectors" on your realm. Specifically the pet collectors. There is some good money to be made if you're into hunting down some of the more popular pets. If you're up for some low-drop, high-payout farming, head to Azshara and slaughter mass amounts of lvl50ish elite blue dragons. I did this recently on a rogue alt. I even equipped weapons he does not usually use (maxed out sword skill, so why not equip a couple of maces, daggers, or fist weapons) to build up his weapon skill in the process. If you're heading to Azshara to take a crack at this, here are a couple of tips. This is a new pet, so farming it is somewhat popular right now. Go out there at very off-peak hours. Make sure that you bring a character with some gathering skill too. My rogue herbs, so I made sure to pick up some dreamfoil, silversage and sansam while I was there. Should you "hit the jackpot" and have the pet drop, expect to get a healthy chunk of gold for it (700-100g on most servers). There is also some money to be made on pets like the Blue Dragonhawk Hatchling on a lot of servers. This pet can only be bought in Netherstorm (unlimited supply, costs 10g). I definitely would not recommend stocking up on them. You can often buy them for 10g and sell for 20g to a lower level collector who can't get to Netherstorm on their own. I would recommend trying it once, if it works, then buy/sell another one. Don't waste money on extras until you know the pet will sell.

On a completely different topic, I've come to realize some things about prospecting. My initial thought was that the only thing worth prospecting was adamantite as it has a much better chance of producing blue gems. Upon further discussion with a JC friend, it is not a terrible idea to prospect fel iron. Yes, the rate of return on blues is lower, but the investment cost is also much lower. On my server, you'll run approx 28g for a stack of adamantite ore, and perhaps 12g for a stack of fel iron. If you prospect 50 fel iron vs. 20 adamantite, you may find that you are making more off of the results from fel iron with the same initial cost. Just a thought, and something worth testing out for yourself.

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Old 11/24/07, 5:34 AM   #286
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Prospecting - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft Has the drop rates. 1% on fel iron versus 3% on adamantite. It's an option on my server, since adamantite is so heavily farmed and highly priced as to be utterly ridiculous. 27-30g per stack and it sells. Fel iron goes for 10-12, so might actually be worthwhile. I'm getting about 6g per mercurial adamantite right now, as well.

Basically, the price of a stack of adamantite plus the price of one primal earth, minus the selling price of a mercurial adamantite has to be more than three times the price of a stack of fel iron for this to be worthwhile.

1a + 1e - 1m < 3f.

Where a = Price of a stack of adamantite, e = price of a primal earth, m = sale price of a mercurial adamantite, f = price of a stack of fel iron ore.

I think that's the right formula, been far too long since I studied maths.

I'm not taking into account the marginal profit to be gained by vendoring the fel iron dust, either.

Fel iron makes slightly more sense in some ways to me. it's very very easy to farm, much less competition for nodes than adamantite. You also can't get motes of fire from adamantite nodes, iirc, and fire sells for much more than earth.

I'm honestly considering farming thorium nodes in EPL. No risk, high reward. Thorium's almost as expensive as adamantite on barthilas.
 
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Old 11/24/07, 9:03 AM   #287
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Originally Posted by Kombinat View Post
Prospecting - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft Has the drop rates. 1% on fel iron versus 3% on adamantite. It's an option on my server, since adamantite is so heavily farmed and highly priced as to be utterly ridiculous. 27-30g per stack and it sells. Fel iron goes for 10-12, so might actually be worthwhile. I'm getting about 6g per mercurial adamantite right now, as well.

Basically, the price of a stack of adamantite plus the price of one primal earth, minus the selling price of a mercurial adamantite has to be more than three times the price of a stack of fel iron for this to be worthwhile.

1a + 1e - 1m < 3f.

Where a = Price of a stack of adamantite, e = price of a primal earth, m = sale price of a mercurial adamantite, f = price of a stack of fel iron ore.

I think that's the right formula, been far too long since I studied maths.

I'm not taking into account the marginal profit to be gained by vendoring the fel iron dust, either.

Fel iron makes slightly more sense in some ways to me. it's very very easy to farm, much less competition for nodes than adamantite. You also can't get motes of fire from adamantite nodes, iirc, and fire sells for much more than earth.

I'm honestly considering farming thorium nodes in EPL. No risk, high reward. Thorium's almost as expensive as adamantite on barthilas.
I have a mod which tracks prospecting results, i have prospected over 4000 stacks of Adamantite Ore and my results say that the drop rate for Rare gems from Adamantite is about 2.5%. I wouldn't trust WoWiki too much for hard facts. I'm quite lucky on my server as most days i can pick up stacks of Adamantite for <20g, unfortunately the Gem market is a bit saturated at moment so my profit margins are getting tighter.

Top tip: Save all your Blue gems, cut them into 12 stamina gems and sell them on Day one of season 3 for hugely inflated prices. Same with yellow gems and +8 resilience cuts.
 
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Old 11/24/07, 10:00 AM   #288
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Originally Posted by Kombinat View Post

I'm honestly considering farming thorium nodes in EPL. No risk, high reward. Thorium's almost as expensive as adamantite on barthilas.
Depends on your server but I made most of the cash for my epic mount by farming thorium in the Burning Steppes. Almost no competition for nodes, high rewards, and the arcane crystals/ huge emeralds etc still sell decently.

Also, if lots of people are levelling alts post-2.3 and wanting to train up engineering et al, I expect thorium prices should hold up quite well

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Old 11/24/07, 4:12 PM   #289
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Originally Posted by Slash View Post
I have a mod which tracks prospecting results, i have prospected over 4000 stacks of Adamantite Ore and my results say that the drop rate for Rare gems from Adamantite is about 2.5%. I wouldn't trust WoWiki too much for hard facts. I'm quite lucky on my server as most days i can pick up stacks of Adamantite for <20g, unfortunately the Gem market is a bit saturated at moment so my profit margins are getting tighter.

Top tip: Save all your Blue gems, cut them into 12 stamina gems and sell them on Day one of season 3 for hugely inflated prices. Same with yellow gems and +8 resilience cuts.

Don't forget the 18 sta/5% stun resist metas. I used to put 2-3 of these up every Tuesday and they would always sell quickly.
 
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Old 11/25/07, 2:14 AM   #290
Resiana
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How to make gold, desesperate character.

Hello everyone,

I have been reading the forum for a while and has been looking around for the gold tips. Unfortunately, most of them seem to be rather... well, it seems like it would take 3 time longer for me to do anything or earn anything at all.

I'm extremely bad at economics and am extremely impatient when I sell something. (I usually want the thing I put on AH to sell in less than 6 hours, so I end up putting insanely low prices.)

However, gold has been a issue lately, Season 3 is heading right around and I still have no gold at all. (Around 98g at the time which I speak.)

I have tried to grind, but this become mind bogling in less time than you can say the word. My class isn't really helping either, being a Paladin with a whooping 400 net AP and around 600 spell damage, I usually find myself to take around almost 1 minute to kill almost any mob I go against. (Except elites that takes around 7~12 minutes each or low level outland mobs who takes around 35~45 seconds.)

I have absolutely NO attack gear. (I'm a pure healer, I have hard time already to manage my bank slot.. And don't have the Arena points or honor for any two-hand weapon.. And I don't raid either.. Lol, seems like my situation is desesperate.)

Anyway, I was wondering, despite looking at the topic (The Art of Making Gold) if anyone had any advice for me?

Would really appreciate it, I'm really running out of money and I just don't see what I could do to improve it. I even tried to farm things like Motes of Life.. I usually get around 1 or 2 motes max per hour.. Which is rather low.. =/)

Could anyone help me, please?
This would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

P.S.: I have absolutely no idea what kind of spelling errors are in the text I wrote. Not a single idea, I never find errors when I read myself. =/
 
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Old 11/25/07, 2:18 AM   #291
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Originally Posted by Resiana View Post
Hello everyone,

I have been reading the forum for a while and has been looking around for the gold tips. Unfortunately, most of them seem to be rather... well, it seems like it would take 3 time longer for me to do anything or earn anything at all.

I'm extremely bad at economics and am extremely impatient when I sell something. (I usually want the thing I put on AH to sell in less than 6 hours, so I end up putting insanely low prices.)

However, gold has been a issue lately, Season 3 is heading right around and I still have no gold at all. (Around 98g at the time which I speak.)

I have tried to grind, but this become mind bogling in less time than you can say the word. My class isn't really helping either, being a Paladin with a whooping 400 net AP and around 600 spell damage, I usually find myself to take around almost 1 minute to kill almost any mob I go against. (Except elites that takes around 7~12 minutes each or low level outland mobs who takes around 35~45 seconds.)

I have absolutely NO attack gear. (I'm a pure healer, I have hard time already to manage my bank slot.. And don't have the Arena points or honor for any two-hand weapon.. And I don't raid either.. Lol, seems like my situation is desesperate.)

Anyway, I was wondering, despite looking at the topic (The Art of Making Gold) if anyone had any advice for me?

Would really appreciate it, I'm really running out of money and I just don't see what I could do to improve it. I even tried to farm things like Motes of Life.. I usually get around 1 or 2 motes max per hour.. Which is rather low.. =/)

Could anyone help me, please?
This would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

P.S.: I have absolutely no idea what kind of spelling errors are in the text I wrote. Not a single idea, I never find errors when I read myself. =/
Dailies to start, if you have a gathering profession or have one that you can drop to get a gathering profession, that helps a lot.
 
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Old 11/25/07, 2:20 AM   #292
Resiana
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Originally Posted by Dollar View Post
Dailies to start, if you have a gathering profession or have one that you can drop to get a gathering profession, that helps a lot.
Pachwa (in another topic) has mentionned me about dailies as well. I'm guessing he is talking about the dailies which doesn't really involve combat? (I have tried to do a few Netherwing quests, the mines, ravager, booterang..)

The only one that would net me gold is the Booterang, any kind of quest that usually make me fight is a huge loss of money. (Spent around 47g on repairs yesterday, gained 58g from quests... 11g net gain.)
 
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Old 11/25/07, 3:21 AM   #293
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When you're doing the dailies, make a pug. I'm sure anyone would appreciate having a healer along, and you'll both get credit for the kills.

But yes, there are plenty of dailies that don't involve killing. Booterang and the two bombing quests come to mind.
 
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Old 11/25/07, 4:37 AM   #294
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I've done all of the BEM dailies and the two in Skettis (escort + Bombing) on a protection warrior and holy paladin for months. You don't really need any killing ability to do them, and it's at least what, 60g a day? The only one that kind of takes a lot of killing is the Demon Banishing in BEM, but it's pretty easy to get a group for that. But as a paladin, if you're even remotely competent at your class, in full healing gear you can round up quite a few demons (lesser geared, maybe you can do 4-5 at a time, I can do as many as I can see, which has been 12 at once so far), and just aoe them to death while healing yourself. The north camp, this is. The south camp isn't very efficient at all to kill, the mobs are about 5x as lethal.
 
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Old 11/25/07, 5:23 AM   #295
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Originally Posted by droeber View Post
When you're doing the dailies, make a pug. I'm sure anyone would appreciate having a healer along, and you'll both get credit for the kills.

But yes, there are plenty of dailies that don't involve killing. Booterang and the two bombing quests come to mind.
Doing the instance and BG dailies would also be good for a healer, easy to get groups for both as a healer, and get some badges/honor while you're at it.
 
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Old 11/25/07, 9:26 AM   #296
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I do skettis/bem dailies on my resto primal mooncloth druid np, just dot 3mobs, then cast rejuv and lifebloom on myself, and reapply dots. It just as easy as when I was killing them one by one as feral(barring the crits streaks that would insta kill a mob). I still try to group for the banish demon one because it's faster if you don't compete with ppl over demons, but I'm really fine doing them solo. Imo, if a druid in no stam healing gear can do it, don't see how anyone else couldn't. It's especially true since 2.3 and the gear changes, I love it I have 550dmg in my healing gear or so, with the first few balance talents I can actually kill stuff(I have bad memories of farming on my prot war and my holy priest pre tbc) at a decent speed, and with all the mana regen on the gear, the downtimes aren't quite as bad as what I thought they would be(only drink once for the 15banished demons for example).
 
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Old 11/26/07, 5:56 PM   #297
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I've used many techniques for making gold on many alts with different professions, both presently and pre-BC. My all time favorite and most lucrative method for making gold is finding arbitrage and monopoly opportunities on the Auction House. My favorite variety of AH arbitrage/monopoly revolves around buying up underpriced green/blue items when the market for their d/e'd components is under-served or non-existent, or buying out limited supplies of items in order to create a temporary monopoly situation.

Required tools for AH arbitrage are Auctioneer and Igor's Mass Auction. Even the "old", "bad" auctioneer had commands that allowed you to set the undercut to a certain percent (say 1%), and to set what was considered "underpriced". You could even use these commands to set up how much over market you want to price items that don't have any competition (setting this manually is KEY-and by manually I mean ridiculously high). These functions, combined with bottom scanner and Igor's mass auction can make you truckloads of gold. This method requires a time commitment and a working understanding of market prices on your server.

Again, the best arbitrage opportunities are found when enchanting or other commonly used materials that simply aren't in supply at all, you create them, and put them up for sale at vastly higher prices. People pay them, and you usually have several hours of windfall profits before someone catches on and follows suit.

And to the people who say that arbitrage is "cheating", pft, I'm just doing my part to make the market more liquid. I'm an electronic market maker. As far as monopolistic practices being "wrong", well, show me the Blizzard SEC.
 
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Old 11/26/07, 6:16 PM   #298
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If I'm not mistaken, you can be banned for AH monopoly like you've described.
 
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Old 11/26/07, 6:26 PM   #299
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Originally Posted by Caligula View Post
If I'm not mistaken, you can be banned for AH monopoly like you've described.
99% sure you are mistaken, they consider it part of the game last time I checked.
 
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Old 11/26/07, 6:32 PM   #300
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Originally Posted by Caligula View Post
If I'm not mistaken, you can be banned for AH monopoly like you've described.
The Only thing I can remember being punished of that sort was a monopoly on the whole auction house, buying almost all (if not all)) the items on the AH then putting everything back up For higher prices.
 
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