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Old 11/13/07, 3:49 PM   #166
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Zul'Jin
If you've ever written a sales plan or projected speculative investments you should have an easy time putting together a gold making system and if you haven't there's a wealth of information available on the internet on how to start up, maintain and finish off a money plan. A few general things to note and think about when looking at how you're going to make gold are:

1. Remember the 3 P's. Professions, PvE and PvP. ALL resources flow towards one or more of those 3 things at any given time. Set down on paper a tiered level system of items based on use/appeal to all 3 and on length of time the items will hold value. Thus the most valuable AH items are going to be those that appeal to all 3 P's and that have a very long period of time in which they will be useful. You're not trying to avoid FotM items at all, you can make alot of gold off those very things but you want consistent, stable gold flow while making room for spikes both up and down from FotM items.

2. Recognize shelf life. Every item has a turnover rate and it also has a finite shelf life until it no longer sells. Appraising the items you wish to sell and figuring out how long you will be able to sell them for and make a good profit from them is key. Prime example of these are most reputation turnin items, as a new rep rotates into the game or new rewards or recipes being added to existing reps these items become real hot and sell very fast until everyone has their fill and then they die off. The goal is to have established a consistent gold flow with the things you are currently selling AND be making preparations to cycle in new items once what you're selling is glutted out by other people moving in on your turf or interest in the items is gone.

Quick note, competition is good for the buyer not the businessman. If you're going to treat your AH actions like a business you need to aim for exclusivity as much as you can. When a particular item becomes hot and people start trying to get a piece of the action, pull away and look for the things in demand that aren't getting as much play and move those items in. This also works with professions, a crafter who has a complete recipe list has a huge advantage over one who does not. When you can tell people "I have everything, whenever you need something you can come to me and I can take care of you" that is a powerful argument in your favor for repeat business.

3. Always think ahead and never get comfortable to the point of laziness. Alot of people do the binge/purge thing with gold, they farm it until they have a good amount then relax and do nothing and it just whittles away until they have to scramble last minute to find some gold for that item they HAVE to have. Even if business is slow, still do business. Gold begets gold, that type of thing.

Really though, gold is easy to get if you are flexible, put in the time and/or money to establish yourself and map out a path towards it that takes into account your server economy and has enough wiggle room to allow for the ups and downs that come with the territory.

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Old 11/13/07, 3:50 PM   #167
Disquette
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Heya Karmen,

You might want to try the standard grinding of the non-supplicants (the ramp leading up to the terrace, and the outside rim) as has been suggested. I hate farming, but I make myself do it, as 160g/hour seems to be the norm for me (I actually think it's higher, but I don't want to lead you astray).

So you can adjust for server pricing difference, tomes go for 10g on my server, signets for 75silver, and netherweave stacks for 3g. So, for me, what you have in ninety minutes is:
4 x 10
40 x .75
10 x 3
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100g + 15g in cash drops and say 20g in items.

So, in 90 minutes with my server pricing, that's 135/90 = 1.5gold per minute.

With my standard rate single pulling, I'm getting about 160/60 = 2.67gold per minute (also including cash, green/grey drops, and repair costs).

This isn't to brag at all, it's just that this thread has been helpful to me (I bought all the ragveil I could find on the AH last night for 4g / stack!), and I don't mind confirming what some other people have already posted here.

This does, of course, assume you have decent melee dps gear, but I'm guessing you do given you're a feral.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...6766?page=3#41
Let me map a priority list out for you so that you can refer to it in the future:
1. Money 2. Money 3. PvE 4. Mages 5. Companion pets 6. PvP

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Old 11/13/07, 4:03 PM   #168
Karmen
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Uldum
Yeah, I didn't start out by planning to do the Supplicants all at once. Basically I would start out on the road and work my way around to the top of the temple as you are suggesting. Then jump back down and do it again. One of those times that I jumped down I ended up aggroing 2 packs of Supplicants and then it just snowballed from there. Since that was brought up I just wanted to point out that a decently geared feral druid can tank them all just like a warrior. If I had had my tank gear on it probably would have been pretty trivial.

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Old 11/13/07, 4:17 PM   #169
Disquette
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I'll admit some jealousy to be able to do that, even if it's not as gold/min efficient ;-)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...6766?page=3#41
Let me map a priority list out for you so that you can refer to it in the future:
1. Money 2. Money 3. PvE 4. Mages 5. Companion pets 6. PvP

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Old 11/13/07, 4:26 PM   #170
Punkrocker
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Originally Posted by Eledorian View Post
My server has alot of twinks.

So whenever I'm protspecced I can make 150g from Soloing Stratholme live side + undead side and I can make another 100g from selling the Righteous orbs since I'm pretty much the only person alliance side that ever puts them on the AH.

Soloing stratholme is fairly easy too, 2p T4 and Figurine of the Collosus allow me to pull large packs of mobs without dying. Slap on a felsteel shield spike on a spare shield and you can pull entire packs, throw in a cleave/thunderclap and your slowly grinding down the mobs.

The only downsides to it are the mobs just before Cannon Master (hand of justice, there's one pull with 3 paladins while you resist most of the stuns there's always one that gets through just as spellreflect fades >.<). The only boss I wasn't able to solo in the whole of strat was Baron Rivendare, I sell all the BoP blues I get from the bosses I kill, and get everything else DE'd by a guildy, if I was an enchanter myself I could possibly make a little bit more from DE'ing the blues aswell.

Takes me anywhere from 1 hour to 1 and a half hour (depending on how intrested I am in getting it done quick). If I go for just the orbs I can be done in about 30 minutes by skipping alot of trash.

I also do this. If you are level 70 you can walk around the trash in the first part of live side without stealth (I've done it on my 70 warrior). Being well geared obviously helps, but the big key to making this viable (imo) is being an enchanter.

Best run I have had 6 orbs and 8 blues drop. Worst run was 2 orbs and 4 blues. The blues de into large brilliants which sell for upwards of 15-20g each. The orbs sell regularly for 35-40g so a 1 hour run (farming all the bosses including Cannon Master) will net 100-200g depending on the orb drops.

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Old 11/13/07, 4:32 PM   #171
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Went up to the Supplicants to try things out.

Never ran into trouble other than during the pull really, though I only grabbed half the platform.

Main thing I'm worrying about is that level 70 elite patrolling. How are you grabbing the lot without taking a goodly dose of damage in between (You can't swipe at mobs behind you...) as well as avoiding that elite ?

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Old 11/13/07, 4:41 PM   #172
Karmen
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Uldum
The demon hunter that patrols does so very slowly and I believe has an aggro radius smaller than the normal mobs, at least that's what I noticed. Like I said I did it by accident but if I wanted to pull it on purpose I don't see it being much of a problem. The elite demon hunter paths mainly through the middle of the area and then down the narrorw pathway by the stairs. Wait until he paths out of the area, stealth to about the middle of the area, pop out of cat and then into bear. Especially now with the 2.3 change to shifting you should take no damage until you are in bear form. Then move backwards to either wall and put yourself up against it. Demo roar, then swipe spam them down while popping trinkets. Should be pretty simple, was for me last night at least.

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Old 11/13/07, 5:21 PM   #173
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Originally Posted by Lowkey[H] View Post
Back before I rerolled, I took my 41/20/0 paladin with roughly ~600 spell damage to the Heap, south of Area 52. Just mount up and run around all the Etherium humanoids there and group them up into packs of 8 or 10, put on ret aura and spam consecration while healing yourself up. Rinse and repeat.

It would annoy anyone else who was questing in the zone, but I used the technique to get cloth, a few BOE blues, etherium prison keys (which resulted in more blues) and Zaxxis insignas. It wasn't the most efficient way to make money, but it got me consortium rep and gave me something to do while I wasn't grinding an overfarmed plateau.
With the new spell damage changes in 2.3 this should be even easier to do. I actually need consortium rep for jewelcrafting.

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Old 11/13/07, 8:27 PM   #174
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Originally Posted by Jokie View Post
With the new spell damage changes in 2.3 this should be even easier to do. I actually need consortium rep for jewelcrafting.
I recently grinded exalted on these. Be sure to have done the Ethereum Key chain before you start grinding as each key is at least 1 green and possibly a BoP blue. (unless you get one of those npcs which just give rep for a faction you'r probably exalted for anyway.. sigh)

I tried it a while as holy with ~15k armor and 750+ dmg and it didnt come close to speccing prot for 2 days and almost chain pulling them (figurine of the colossus is required for not having to eat/drink in between pulls though). Maybe my +dmg gear just isnt good enough for doing this as holy, but I can highly recommend going prot.

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Old 11/13/07, 9:38 PM   #175
Opioid
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Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
Add in the outlands 'pvp trinket' obtainable in Zangarmarsh and/or the Darkmoon Card Heroism (or the Spyglass) and you should be good to go. Will have to give it a shot.
Exalted Skyguard trinket is also very good!

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Old 11/13/07, 9:52 PM   #176
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Originally Posted by Opioid View Post
Exalted Skyguard trinket is also very good!
I used the +dmg version for a while I the biggest issue with it is that for the proc effect to occur, mobs have to start dying (usually more then 1), when that happends, you barely need the proc anyway normally.

Though I admit the +crit is alot more usefull for other classes then prot pala grinding.

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Old 11/13/07, 10:44 PM   #177
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Supplicants aren't very efficient if you're chain pulling*, it works better to kill them all at once and then wait a few minutes for respawns. If your gear is good enough (max block rating, decent stam) it won't matter if you're holy or prot, as long as you have the Figurine.

Also at a certain point of gear/practice, it doesn't really matter if you aggro the elite. They fixed the little nook I used to use to leash him, but when I'm bored I just solo him until the respawns. Careful to spend your mana quickly if you pull him though.

Maybe I'm just easily bored, but I did the supplicant grind for a little over a week when it was time to buy my epic flight training and haven't done it much since. Plus I'm the only miner on Dalvengyr with a 310% (plus Crusader) and I'm too lazy to mine anything...

[E] Err, right. Not meaning the Zaxxis guys

Last edited by PsiVen : 11/13/07 at 11:17 PM.

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Old 11/13/07, 11:07 PM   #178
Johnneke
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I find myself making tons of money lately by farming in legion hold as a 0/21/40 specced Warlock with t4/5 level gear. Once you have enough shadow dmg you can kill the Shadow Council warlocks in 3 hits everytime (2 if you crit) Even when it takes 3 sb's they will usually die before hitting you and they have a great droprate of blues/greens/fel armaments/marks/netherweave. In 1 hour I have an average of 30g from silver 15g from greys 30g netherweave 6x fel arma (90g on my server) 80 marks (80g) and the occasional greens and blues like darkmoon faire cards, lvl 65-68 boe blues and sometimes a jc pattern that sells for a few hundred gold. Anyway neglecting all the blues and green ive had there it is already 240+ gold an hour but I think I average around 300g an hour counting all the blues and greens

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Old 11/13/07, 11:11 PM   #179
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Supplicants aren't very efficient if you're "chain pulling", it works better to kill them all at once and then wait a few minutes for respawns.
With chain pulling I was referring to the Zaxxis raiders, which have ~3 camps (1 of 15ish mobs and 2 of 6-8 mobs) where you can easily gather them.

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Old 11/14/07, 4:15 AM   #180
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I made my share of gold with the Shadowmoon Grunts at Teron, thank you Peons! Made about 65k total worth of Hearts split over 3 people in ~6 weeks. Not too shabby.

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