Poggrid

I play a 41/20/0 paladin and killing mobs, while not extremely fast, goes a bit faster than you described. You need to pull out all your damage capabilities to do decent damage. I had a retadin set I used pre-2.3, but after the healing->damage conversion, I find myself grinding in my healing gear more often than not. (Mostly because my regen is way better and so it's easy to blow all my cooldowns while not running out of mana. And all that spellcrit helps judgements/exorcism/holy shock, too.) My healing gear has ~1570 healing, 22% holy crit, and ~100mp5, so I have roughly the same amount of spell damage you do.

You need to find "good" mobs to kill--for a holy paladin, this probably means Legion Hold in SMV. Undead/demons/dual-wielding mobs are all good choices and Legion Hold has these in spades. Put up ret aura (the damage from this against dual-wielding mobs helps quite a bit), bless wisdom, judge crusader, and use seal of righteousness or vengeance. I prefer vengeance, as the judgement hits for quite a bit more and getting a five-stack up is relatively easy. Exorcism, holy shock, consecrate--you need to be using everything you have--but balance mana output versus your regen so you never have to stop and drink. I don't use hammer of wrath; by the time the mob gets low enough, I usually have a five-stack of vengeance ticking and judging that does just as much damage for much less mana. Remember to hammer of justice mobs if you see them using highly damaging specials or just to slow down their damage output. Divine favor + R11 holy light is your friend between fights and even during fights if you're getting a little low; don't bother healing yourself between fights, either, since--depending on mobs--your DF cooldown will probably be up when you need another big heal.

I usually kill things before my seal wears off, so < 30 seconds. It's nothing compared to a rogue or a mage, but it's not extremely painful, either.

 

Opioid

Anyone else have fun with Mystic Lionseye today? (or JC in general?) I turned 1250g into 5000g.

People are very impatient.

 

Dollar

Yeah JC was a lot of fun today. I wish I had bought more gems before today because there were literally 0 uncut gems on the AH.

 

Prinsesa

Yup, today was a VERY good day to make money. 100% markup on Mystic Dawnstones and Steady Talasites I bought for dirt cheap two weeks ago and they STILL all sold, not to mention the half-dozen stacks of Arcane Dusts, GPEs and LPSs I've been saving up just for this moment.

And I owe it all to this thread. I never would've thought of the whole Tuesday-timing thing if I hadn't read through here.

http://armory.mmo-champion.com.nyud....63815BffMm.png

 

Redpath

Brings back memories of the Lionheart Helm, where on Destromath (US) only one guy had the recipe and he milked it for a good 4 months at the least.

 

Silke

I had been stockpiling gems for a couple of weeks now. Today I've been cutting them and dumping them on the AH. At anywhere from 10 to 20 gold higher than the "normal" price, they're quite literally selling as fast as I can put the auction up.

 

Spork

Today was an amazing day. I posted my auctions last night before the servers went down for what I "thought" the prices would be at (a little above what 2.3 patch prices were). Little did I know that Solid Stars would go all the way upto 100g on my server (Mal'Ganis - US). There was actually a point when there were no Solid Stars on the AH. Had about 50 cut gems on the AH. The majority of which I had farmed, a few I had bought the night before. Turned a nice 2000g today.

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone considered buying Arcane Tomes or Fel Arms for today's patch. I noticed prices were a little higher than normal today, I'm guessing, due to the fact that people needed them for sholder enchants.

I know some enchanters who made out nice today just sitting their spamming their macro in SW at the bank.

 

Pleun

Did anyone else experience a sudden lower spawnrate on Windy Clouds? Just spent 2 hours flying in Nagrand, the only clouds I could find were 2 bugged ones mid-air. It's like they stopped respawning.

 

Spork

I'm not an engineer, but I did hear some people complaning about it while I was doing my mining circle around Nagrand.

 

Mex

Yeah I've heard about bugged clouds. Not sure on spawn rates though.

S3 today was awesome, I wish I'd prepared more for it. I had about 2 stacks of LPS, but ended up using half of them for myself (didn't think of that). The others sold instantly at 175% their usual value. I wish I'd taken the time to stock up on 12 stam, or 4 str / 4 crit, or 9 heal / 2 mp5 gems last week, in addition to more shards and primals. Could have easily doubled almost any investment I think, stuff was selling as fast as I could put it up (ie list 1st, sells, list 2nd, sells, etc).

At the very least though, I had my own enchants and gems all prepared and sorted, so I didn't have to pay exhorbitant prices on any of it.

 

Duilliath

Not just Nagrand - Zangarmarsh as well.

Flew around Nagrand a couple times and only found 1 buggy one mid-air. Went to Zangarmarsh after the second time because I wanted to get at least -something- out of my time spent... Nothing.

Seems like they turned off the respawn.

 

Lezwyn

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Angeron

I saved up big time enchanting mats and gems for this day over the past couple of months, figuring that I'd make a killing.


A division of Best Sellers on patch day, note that this is just total #s and not actually a division into parcels, items were sold in bulk and in individual lots.

Stacks of Arcane Dust sold: 40: 35g a stack
Prismatic Shards: 86: 28g per shard:
Void Crystals sold 42: 35g per:
GPEs: (My worst seller) sold for 10g per essence, only managed to sell 50:
Solid Star of Elune: 27 sold: 55g per
Noble Topaz (Uncut sold best since I did not have wicked noble design): 50g Average Net per.
Glowing Nightseye: 11, 65g per

One tactic I used to sell more gems was: when an entire page of my auctions had been purchased, I would msg the purchasers (I love auction house email info), and ask if they needed anything else. More often than not, they would, and I'd be able to make an extra 2.5-3gold by cutting out the AH. I also managed to basically steal a bundle of Large Prismatics and Voids when people logged on but didnt bother checking the new days prices and sold to me in bulk for pre-s3 prices (voids 10g, LPs 12g).

Another item I noted that was selling hugely, was Greater Eternal Essences, Zero on the AH at any time, and well over 10 people looking to buy a minimum of 3 each. I contemplated buying lvl 57-60 greens to satisfy the demand, but no pocket enchanter around to disenchant for me.

One group of items that took a MAJOR price hit yesterday was primals of all types. We're talking a 30% drop in prices straight up, with a gradual additional loss of maybe 10-20%. I was buying Airs for 17g (normally 35-40g), fires for 15, and waters for 10. Primal Life seemed unaffected.

On the other side of this price drop, herb prices went up a solid margin, easily 20% for the more common variety, and a good 30-40% for Lichen/DG/Manathistle. Leather, especially clefthoof and cobra scales, were up easily 200%, Scales selling for almost 30g a piece. Mining supplies remained unmoving at about 3gold over their 3 month average of 20g, which was shocking considering the price of gems.

Knowing that this patch day was coming made me feel like Wal-Mart stores in the South. I knew there was a hurricane coming, I knew what people would buy, thus what to stock up on, how could I not make a killing when it hit? I need more of this kinda thing in real life.

Though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable; I simply am not there.

On your server, causing econo-trauma.

 

Clockwise

I had the opposite experience on Black Dragonflight with some of the items mentioned. GPEs were selling faster than I could put them up, peaking at 15g per (went through about 40-50 of them). Arcane Dust didn't sell at all. LPS went for around 32-35g all day.

MVP was Primal Life, selling at 27.50g each. Powerful Earthstorm Diamond was rocking anywhere from 200-300g per.

Good thing I had a bank full of pvp gems pre-cut and hundreds of GPE/LPS/Dust to sell, muahahahaha.

 

Pleun

Clouds still not respawning after last night's maintenance, gah =/

Primal prices are staying surprisingly normal here. Seems like not many Jewelcrafters seem to care about S3 either, oh well, better for me I guess

 

Valerian

Did they change something with primals that would have lowered their price? I would have assumed they too would increase as everything else, especially those used in enchants.

 

Kir

Hey Seal

Agreed on the arcane dust. Their price was higher then it was before, but definitely the least profitable of all the enchant mats. I think I was getting 1g 40s per dust (28-30g per stack) before, highest I was getting was 38-40g yesterday. GPEs sold fast at 10-12g, up from the 4-5g 2 days ago.
The ridiculous things were the LPS and Greater Eternal Essences. I generally buy underpriced armor/weapons and DE them into mats. I was able to buyout a ton more items that were higher priced, as I was making more on the mats. Like, if I normally don't buy the item for more than 4g, I could pay up to 7g and still average a profit of 1g per item. Think I made 200g yesterday just in buying/DEing items, hard to say as I still had like 30 auctions I put up before I logged off. Might be a lot more if all those sell at the same prices. On top of selling the small stockpile of mats I had banked, made decent money yesterday without leaving town.

 

• Pyre

I spent two weeks using my cooldowns for earthstorm/skyfire diamonds, bugging all my friends to use theirs as well. I made enough clear profit for an entire epic mount last night. I literally could not keep REDs in stock, even selling at 200+ gold each.

 

Huntardish

Oh man, yesterday was pure joy for me, bank FULL of gems/enchanting mats I've been stockpiling for a month now in anticipation of S3.

Such a good day...I'm still selling things today for the late comers who couldn't buy stuff yesterday.

 

Angeron

Gems are selling at even higher prices today as most of the stockpilers are completely sold out (myself included) and there isnt enough ore to prospect. Sold my last 20 Solid stars for 65g apiece now. Meta gem market is totally flooded and prices are depressed. As for primal lifes, there are no longer any on the AH, so I assume every new pally/priest is getting his/her s1 healy-dealy enchanted. Good thing I have 60+ stocked.

Though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable; I simply am not there.

On your server, causing econo-trauma.

 

• Symbul

I've made a fair bit today on gems. Also had fun mocking my guildies for being suckers and buying everything today instead of buying it before.

The big moneymakers have been dps/sta gems and crit. There's a lot of yellow sockets going around and a lot of classes focus on crit. They want their crit today, even when I'm marking it up 250%.

 

royaljester

Enchanters with 15resilience to chest, at least in my guild, made a good 500g+ profit yesterday, not including tips that people, so excited with new gear, handed out. I personally made a pretty good profit from dust, GPE, gems and the metas. None reached to 200+ or 100+ that some ppl are talking about, meta and solid stars, respectively, but I made a pretty good profit.

I noticed some people talking of gold buying. I know it's against rules and illegal and what not, but we all know "someone" that has done it. I know a guy that bought 6kgold for around 180 US. I don't know how, I asked and he said that he got a deal. This guy isn't a liar, isn't known for cheating people and is a great dude. He turned around and sold that $30/1000g for around $80/1000g. He then, with $50 profit from each thousand, so $300, turned aroudn and bought another 10k gold, sold half and ended up making quite a bit of money. Now, I know of people that personally sell gold on servers, I'm no longer on the server with that guy, but has anyone found RL profit from selling gold that they farm? Or possibly, like nate, used RL things to profit them some gold.

Let's be honest, at 50-60/1000g, it's almost stupid to NOT buy it. work a few extra hours at work and then buy some extra gold, save you hours and hours of farming, my guess. I've looked into buying gold, and for $30/1000g, I dont see why I wouldn't, if I could find it for that price :\.

Onto prospecting/JC...

You are buying stacks of ore at 22-25g a stack, you get 4 prospects per 22-25g and at a 2-3% chance of a blue gem, doesn't that mean you'd have to prospect 25 stacks and get 2-3 blue gems? (25 stacks x 4 prospects = 100 chances x 2-3% = 2-3 blue gems). Correct me if that's wrong, but that's 587g~ for 3 blue gems? How does that make money?

I'm a JC, I bought almost all the uncut gems on the AH to resell for 5-15g profits yesterday, made tons of money. But buying ore and prospecting at that drop rate, how does that come out even? Maybe our % rate of the possible blue gems is off, cause at that % rate, I'd NEVER buy ore to prospect, and yet, I see people make money off it all the time.

 

◊ Hanos

That is 2-3% per prospect.... PER GEM. So when you Prospect 5 Adamantite Ore you have a 3% chance of getting each of the 6 blue gems, while the actual odds are more complex it is essentially a 18% chance, so 1 in 5 chance of getting a blue gems, or .8 blue gems per stack. Take the average price of all 6 gems multiply by .8, add in the value of green gems and Adamantite Powder, if you can buy stacks of ore for less then that amount, then with enough volume you are guarenteed profit (a couple hundred gold isn't enough volume... burn a couple hundred stacks of ore, and averages even out).

 

Derketo

15 blue gems out of 100 prospects on average.

Each gem has 2.5% chance to drop out of a prospect, there are 6 blue gems that can drop. Then you have green gems, and dust to sell.

I'll be alright when we get to pass out time.

 

◊ NateDawg1021

I've heard the new Auctioneer is pretty awesome when it comes to making money. I've used it some and gone crazy with Small Radiants (Firey Enchant) and Large Brillants.

Does anyone have a link to their settings for the new Auctioneer on all the changes you can make to what it looks for/automatically prices for, from what I've read it basically makes the money for you baring any drastic changes in the market. If you don't want to make it public, I could use a PM. It's something that's drawn my interest. I'm on a medium population server and there's tons of bank alts/people who try to play the AH, so it's not great overall and you have to wait for all the income to come back. I'm glad my suggestion of borrowing money for an epic flier came in handy, much faster to pay people back when you unlock more daily quests.