Zaphid

I wished i stockpiled more, at one point, there were no LBS on the AH, so i disenchanted few t0 items for ~10g a piece and made 100g on the spot, too bad that day like this won't probably come again until WotLK.
Greter Eternal Essences are my secret moneymaker, just watch your Enchantrix data so you don't buy Outland greens, which disecnhant into LPE/Arcane Dust.

 

swills

Just to follow this up with an example, here are today's (patch day for us in Europe) gem prices:

Solid Star: 60g
Runed Living Ruby: 75g
Mystic Dawnstone: 40g
Steady Talasite: 20g
Veiled/Inscr Noble Topaz: 55g
Various Nightseyes: 45g

The average rare gem price was about 50g all day. A stack of adamantite ore gives you about a 75-80% chance of a rare gem. So as long as you bought adamantite today at less than 37g on my server, you were profiting (assuming the uncommon gems make up for the 5% AH cut and they usually do and then some). I got lucky and had some kind souls put up about 50 stacks or ore at 23-25g each. Have never been so happy to be a JCer!

Of course this only applies to the high patch day prices, but you can work out where the profitability level is on normal days, and for me it's around 24g per stack to ensure a profit.

 

Polgarra

Yesterday was a prime example of why this particular thread is a fantastic resource for players that want to make a lot of gold. Had I not been reading this thread every day, I may not have been quite as prepared as I was for the AH explosion yesterday. I'm sure others made a heck of a lot more than I did (was stuck at work until 5 hours after the servers came back up) but I still made way more than I could have hoped for on a standard Tuesday. I threw up nearly all my enchanting mats on the AH, then stood in town advertising free enchants if you provide mats. It was great to have someone whisper me asking for an enchant, I tell them yeah I can do that, then I watch the spam of my auctions selling. I wonder how many of them noticed that they were buying my mats only to hand them to me for an enchant. I was also pleasantly surprised at the tips I was receiving (5-15g tips are a pleasant surprise when you're offering free services). I also put my brother's JC to work in a huge way for the past week. Epic flying for alt #2 done and done.

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magnetic

This thread certainly illustrates the importance of paying attention to patches such as the s3 gear release. I made at least 1000g yesterday while chatting with a friend over tea and watching the AH move enchanting mats. LPS normally sell for 15/17; you could not keep them on the ah for several hours(5pm pst-10pm) at 29/30. Dust was up about 40%.

As a bonus, at one point, someone put a great many Superior Wizard Oil up for 5g per stack then advertized it, I bought it all and relisted at 13/14 and had sold half by morning. As a working enchanter this stuff is bread and butter and I knew how much it goes for during the various phases of the week.

The one thing that really struck me in this thread is dramatically narrowing the margin when undercutting. 1g or even 2g is far too much for consumable items (as I would normally do), In fact I did an experiment last night that proved interesting.

LPS 28.50/30.00 were bought out much faster than LPS put up at 29/30(by an alt). So often it is not even necessary to undercut the BO, but simply undercut the min-bid by small bit.

Excellent discussion so far.

 

Vanadi

Logged in right when the server went online, bought all leftover cheap talasites for 10-20g and added them to my own stack. got a JC to turn them into Steady's and immediately re listed them for 40/65bo. Sold nearly 20 steady talasites for that price. Also sold a whole bunch of GPE in stacks of 2 for 25/28bo. And having stacked up on more then enough gems and enchanting mats for my entire s3 set ages ago this day was some nice profit. A lot of guildies where regretting they didn't listen to what I said a few weeks ago about the prices going to skyrocket.

 

zamoda

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that sorting by price, sorts by bid not a buyout price. So item listed 28.50/30 is on the top. I believe even 28.50/31 would sell better than 29/30 because people are lazy to scroll down :-)

 

Zurgat

I'm using Fizzwidget's disenchant predictor.
So far it's pretty spot on in predicting which items it can give.

Also, iirc there is a season 4 planned before Wotlk. i'll definitely be trying to stockpile some LPS.

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greendef

It is sorted first by buyout price, if buyout price is the same, then by bid price.

 

lythrdskynrd

OOOOOH ... the new [Wicked Leather Headband]

I used to buy stacks and stacks of rugged leather - combine and DE (Illusion, 1 - 2 Greater Eternal, Shard)
now it seems there's a JC equivalent of something that DEs for significantly more than it costs to make

The nice thing is that if you're doing ore-busting as a JC you'll have mountains of garnets and draenite anyways
JC - orebusting - cut Blues, Vendor everything but garnets and draenite
- Combine into rings - send to Enchanter - DE

That's a great amount of vertical integration and re-use ... would like to see something for the other trash gems you get for orebusting. I'll wander over to thott and see thanks!

EDIT:
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Though the blue ones *DO* sell as +9 Stam - finding a use for the Peridots (on my server selling for 40s cut) is a real touch.

 

Mem

I made quite good money yesterday as well (when S3 was released in Europe) however two aspects cut into my profits: not beeing able to sell enchants and watching the AH full time due to RL and raiding commitments and then of course that I absolutely underestimated the chances - I had some stuff stockpiled but not in such quantities that I would have been able to pile up. I'm really kicking myself for not buying every Talasite from the AH during the last two weeks. Some cuts really doubled in their price.

Enchanting mats only partially skyrocketed, arcane dust only recovered a little bit from the cut throat prices during the last weeks but essences and shards rose by another 30 %. Also primal mana had a short high, rising from 20 to 30 a primal.

We had quite a lot jewelcrafters and enchanters who made between 500 and 1k g just from standing and advertising their services in Org.

 

• koaschten

Yeah, general impression is, total under-estimation of the possibilities of S3 on my side. came home from work at 6pm and 80% of the stuff i had listed around 200% mark-up already had sold. I checked the AH only to notice stuff like Star of Elune went for up to 80g... UNCUT. Sadly i couldn't feed the supply. So i ended the day with a healthy 1500g profit, and 3 hours on my enchanting alt advertising stamina on boots, stats and resilience on chest charging 10g when bringing the mats. which easily netted another 350g.

I can't wait for S4 release, because till then my currently leveling Miner/Skinner should be able to feed the 30g/scale market for leg dps enchants and support playing the auction house with self-supplied gems. *giggles insanely* I guess i will simply bring it to 63/64 and grind away on Clefthoofs.

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Kaels

It was quite a rollercoaster on our realm's AH.
Yesterday I logged on and the majority of the gems were still on the ah with cheap prices so I wound up buying all the elunes / rubies / enchant mats for dirt cheap and reselling or just cutting rare gem recipes. Elunes at 30g resold solid stars at 80g, rubies at 40g resold at 75g. Not to mention the amount of cash I made off all the steady talasites I had banked.

The entire server was going nuts asking for gems in trade....but they were sitting there in the ah for hours at half the price until I came along. Next time I plan on stocking up on every single thing.
This post was exceptionally helpful. Thanks

 

Humbaba

Azgalor gem prices were bizarre. Solid Stars were worth no more than 65g, but Potent Nobles would fetch 89g. Powerful Earthstorms were fetching 200g per, so it all evened out in the end. My wife's new priest will have her epic flyer as soon as she finishes the last 10 levels.

 

Illundai

Silvermoon EU was weird; Prices inflated, but nothing like the stuff you guys are posting here. I bought about 50 Dawnstones and Star of Elune last week, and I had trouble selling most of it. Most of it is gone now though, but not for more than 65g each Dawnstone and 75g each Star. Oh well, nice profit still.

 

◊ Kalman

People thought ahead and stockpiled solid stars, but failed to anticipate Potent Noble demand, and as a result the Potent supply/demand ratio was much lower, leading to a higher price.

That'd be my guess, anyway.

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Spork

I've been going back and forth about this the past few days with myself.

I know it's a long way off, but does anyone think S4 will be near as big as S3? I've been considering saving all my gems for 2.4 or S4 from here till then. I don't need any money, nor can I see myself needing any extra money anytime soon.

But the question remains, will any of the future patches be as big as S3. Reason I was thinking no is because most of the people probably won't be stocking up on 75k of honor or 5k arena points again. This last season was so long, that even Joe Newbie could have saved up 5k arena points. Plus with the changes to AV's honor gains and the fact there is really good gear now out there that people will be wanting for a while to come.

Of course the regular arena players will be getting their 5/5 S3 with weps and then saving up, but other than thoes people, I don't see the market being quite as big in any patches to come in the near future.

That said, just want to point out that Xmas is around the corner, so if you want to make easy money, start stocking up on Eggs for the cookies so you don't have to fight the masses while farming them (since they nerfed the moonbrook spawn point).

 

◊ Kalman

Depends on how long it takes them to release S4. If S3 runs even close to as long as S2, then yeah, S4 will be just as crazy.

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swills

Actually I think a huge part of the reason for the massive demand was the introduction of Arena gear to honor points. That's hundreds of new chest pieces (with 3 gems each), shoulders (2 gems each), helms (meta & gem) entering the market that players were previously unable to purchase. That and the massive wait between seasons allowing even the most casual of players to stockpile thousands of points.

I doubt S3 -> S4 will be as big, as simply going from S1 Arena to S2 Arena gear is nowhere near as exciting for players as going from dungeon blues & quest greens to epic Arena gear.

 

Marieth

It was certainly a feast for everone with a little sense in economics. I myself made arround 2k without pushing it. Just by selling, what I have saved over the last 2-3 weeks. But well, not that I need it anyway. I was scratching my head, when I saw how people bought steady talsites for 29g when 2days earlier they were listet for 19g and less.
Well I will never understand humans .

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kadgar

The probable date for Season 4 is Patch 2.4, rather 2 weeks after 2.4.
2.3.2 is still on PTR, 2.4 should come to PTR this year and I'd expect it to be on PTRs at least for 6-8 weeks.
So I suppose Season 4 date around early in March 2008, which would be 3 monts.

I'm just wondering what will happen at the end of Season 4 (wich should be WotLK release) with the remaining arena points?

PS: Keep in mind that in 2 days a new wave of Consortium Gems will flood the market.

 

lythrdskynrd

I thought this one was pretty interesting actually ... I'd always felt that there was probably some way to semi-accurately predict the income from prospecting...

So ... what's a thread on money making without a couple of good spreadsheets.

Now I'm not quite Cheeky here ... but a quick google spreadsheet to predict the value of prospecting
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...5uzMA&hl=en_GB

What's interesting is the droprates of certain gems when you look at thottbot's result
Thottbot World of Warcraft: Adamantite Ore

Has talasite happening a lot more than anything else (at a rate of 10%)

which throws the whole thing off
- Note - to play with your own values you've got to choose "Copy Spreadsheet" on the file menu

 

Makesha

Thanks for the reminder! A little extra money can probably be made from buying cheap gems and waiting a few days..

 

lythrdskynrd

[edit] In addition to this (which is a good analysis) [/ edit]
... one of the other issues with Silvermoon specifically is a *very* competitive JC market.

There are a few specific accounts that post ridiculous numbers of gems up at low prices ... one person in particular once told me that they wanted to "rebalance the market" so that everything (even living rubies) were 25g

I really suspect that those guys are somehow tied to the gold farmers ... but what can you do?

One level 50 in particular - spends hours a day 'stalking' the AH... put a gem on, reload, and he's got 3 on at a number of copper lower than you. Tray again, reload ... 3 more.

It's positively predatory I tell you!

 

Zupal