swills

I don't think the Crawdad price drop is related to ZA, but rather to the cooking daily quest. I do that on two characters and quite often get Crawdads or Huge Spotted Feltail (same thing basically) in the Barrel of Fish.

The Cooking Daily has fast become my favourite daily as I farm the mats for two characters on my skinner and most days I'm able to follow around after people and skin the mobs they are killing for the ingredients. The 'Super Hot Stew' quest is by far the best as people kill Wind Serpents in BEM then which I can skin for Wind Scales at 1-2g a pop. Combined with selling the fish from the reward this often turns out to be a quick 20-25g daily quest.

 

• Disquette

Just to back up an assertion I made earlier, here's a strict 1 hour farming session outside black temple on the blood elves. I used an agility pot about half way through, and a protection scroll and a stam scroll left over from whenever, but those were the only additional buffs outside my normal class buffs (water shield and windfury).

The proceeds of this farming expedition was:
36.98 gold in cash drops
13.25 stacks of runecloth (3g garunteed buyout on my server) = 39.75
100 sunfury signets (just coincidence it was that nice round number - 80 g on my server) = 80g
6 arcane tomes (10g each on my server) = 60g
3 green drops which d/e'd into 9 arcane dust = 11g
TOTAL: 11 + 60 + 80 + 39.75 + 36.98 = 227.73 gold per hour
(I'll assume that the grey drops canceled out my repair bills).

Note that other people camping this can *really* mess this rotation up, to the point where you're only making 110 to 150 g/hour.

So yeah, i'd said that 180g / hour was conservative, and if this test of it (which seemed pretty normal to me) was correct, it was indeed an underestimate.

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Nizghalad

I'm interested in Black Temple trash farming, and for that matter I have gathered a few links.

Here they are :
YouTube - Shadow priest farms Black temple (shadow priest)
YouTube - Hunter and Warlock Farm WoW Gold in Black Temple (hunt for the aspect + warlock)
Forums de wow-europe.com -> Black Temple: Farming de trash solo (hunter)
Black Temple Hunter solo farming 1000g/h By Sharkon / Boonhunting
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...02653775&sid=1
WarcraftMovies.com - World of Warcraft Movies
GameTube Vido : Black Temple: Hunter Solo Farming

Problem is, I am keyed to Hyjal since one week, but not yet to BT, and I want to be as much prepared as I can for when I can enter (farming for MTs + selling hearts of darkness esp.).
I watched the videos and read the forum posts, but since I have never set a foot in BT, I would like to know what is required, if it's still possible to do this, and how (assuming none of the bosses are down).
Do epic BoE receipes still drop after 2.3?

In short, what can I expect?

PS: I wanted to start a new thread as some kind of guide, but if something very useful comes out of this branch of discussion, I'll make a summary post.

 

Osse

the hunter in that solo farming video uses a stupid kite path. You're a lot more efficient by kiting around the pillar once you're next to the ramp near Akama's place.

I made 11k gold in one weekend when we were learning Shahraz. It's frustrating sometimes when you die a few times in a row but at least I dont have to grind anything before level 80 or so.

Record of killing one mob was 40 ish seconds, average being 60-70.

 

Nizghalad

this implies you have to have Naj, Supremus and Shade of Akama down, right?

 

Osse

You need to have Naj, Supremus, Akama, Teron, BLoodboil and Essence of souls.

 

exog

Anything soloable by a rogue in Bt? Given exceptional gear?
(My gear is medicore but my weapons compensate for it

 

Nizghalad

Is it also doable with the trash at the beginning? With no boss down?

I *think* the shadow priest farms the trash at the entrance, but I'm totally clueless about that (yet).
I've been trying to find a good program to visit BT in 3d, but wowmapview doesn't work for me =(

 

Golias

I (dps warrior) started to go there after it was first mentioned here, but my results weren't so impressive. I usually have to stop every 10 mobs or so to eat or bandage. You mentioned a "rotation". Usually I stick to the balcony where the elite demon is, and sometimes go a bit short on mobs. Maybe I should move to other places? Also I tend to wait for them to be on lower health (demon supplicants fighting), as many times I 1/2 shot them. But in end end it might not be efficient. I'd like to do better here, because it's a great way to wait for invites when BT raid is due, and a nice alternative to netherwing dailies.

Ps. Anyone got experience with BT farming in pairs? I was thinking of doing it with a healer, but not sure where it would be better.

 

Belzebutinov

The two paths I use (depending on whether or not there are other people and where they are):
* The ramp. Unless I'm much mistaken, Disquette's screenshots are of that ramp. Being Scryers, I arrive from the top. I go down the right side, and up the left. By the time I'm up, the first ones have respawned (if they haven't, there's a slight "L"-bend where you can farm a few more while you wait for it).
* The terrace itself. I start at the tent just next to the stairs at around 68,52 if I remember correctly. The path takes a turn to the right, and ends as a dead end with 3 mobs. Then I fly straight up and kill the clothies all the way back to where I started. If you do it right, there is no respawn wait, and you don't have to bother with that irritating terrace full of duelling guys.

 

Ashankt

Some rogue help:

Set up a macro that pickpockets then cheapshots/ambushes/ruptures (depending on your preference). Pickpocketing as well as having access to a certain throwing weapon also allows you to get poison mats, flash powder, food, pots and grey comedy trash. This will help you out no end while farming those humanoids outside BT Slimes and some demons can also be pickpocketed

 

Zurgat

I'd be highly interested in a macro like that.
But, how do you set it up?

Since 2.2 or so it also works in combat, so you can pickpocket anything before you garrote or cheapshot.

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Ashankt

You should set autloot on then:

There is a whole list of handy Rogue macros over at wowwiki.com - just search for "Rogue Macro" - hope this helps

Changing ambush to whatever your preference is.

 

Zarthariah

Another way you could do the macro that is more or less the same as the post above me, but still a tiny bit different is like this:

/castsequence [reset=3] Pick Pocket,Ambush

Again you can replace ambush with your opener. I use bongos bars, so what I've done is bound the macro to "F" and have both my opening macro and hemo macro on it, so when I go at a mob I just spam F.

my hemo looks like this

/equip *name of my sword*
/cast Hemorrhage

I have this macro because I still use ambush (I'm not 70 on my rogue yet), but using hemo with daggers is silly imo

Another one I have if I'm box farming is this

/castsequence [reset=3] Sap,Pick Pocket

Slows you down a little and makes it hard to take advantage of double/triple tapping to get extra silver, but it's helpful as it often time saves you time from the need to distract.

For the rogues who use Sstep, be careful when adding PP to your opener macro as sometimes the little delay that occurs when auto looting gives the mob enough time to turn around and walk into you, which breaks your stealth. Quite rare, but it has happened to me a few times.

Don't know if 2.3 made castsequence less than optimal or not, but it was my impression that /stopcasting is no longer needed.

Just my 2c ...

 

Xiv

Only thing I would give away is the following: See everything 'in gold'; If you have 10x Primal Water, see it as ~230g. Sounds obvious, but most people don't think of it like this. The only things you have to take in consideration is the AH cut, deposit and in the end the profit. Farm what brings most profit, rather than directly farming what you need for a specific enchant or something.

 

• Disquette

Belzebutinov has it right - The supplicants tear me up compared to the eradicators and blood lords on the ramp.

The one place that I differ with him is how far to go ;-) In the grinding session shown from the the attached picture, I ran out of mobs a couple times, and that's even after clearing *every* mob in the path shown in the picture. If you are not able to clear them as quickly due to gear/spec/class, you do have to scale your expectations down. I wear 3 pieces of BT/Hyj loot, as a gear reference.

In this pic, the green dots are eradicators, the lavender purple splotches are blood lords, and the light blue splotches are the supplicants that I actually kill. The big red X is in the direction of the terrace that I avoid. I start by killing the mobs heading up the ramp, and then when I hit the end (North as shown in this wonderful MS paint job), I gryphon back down to the beginning.

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Prinsesa

For those who recommend Legion Hold, what do you do about the elite? Just dodge him, or is Shadowmoon Valley 23, 38 the wrong spot?

"We do want Sanctuary to be the tanking seal"

- Ghostcrawler

 

Leica

If you don't have the ability to kill him, then you can just dodge him by killing packs that are on the opposite side he is when he's pathing by the pillars. If you're able to kill him, you may as well as it will make it less likely you'll be standing around waiting for him to pass if you've already cleared what's safe as he paths by the opposite side.

 

◊ Cadfael

No it's not at the start of the entrace, it's rather far in (between second and third boss) however you do need to have the first 6 bosses down before you can do that.

Two weeks ago we could only clear up to EoS and then I had a few days time to try it out. It needs a lot of training, I easily died about 25 times until I got to the point where I could reliably do it. Running exactly the right path is of most importance, as you are about ~1 to 3 meters further away than the range of their stun spell. And get some run speed enchants.

It works though and it still works as of 2.3. It takes about 5 minutes per pull and depending on the situation I sometimes could even down two, by extending the path fully down to the instance portal. Mana becomes an issue then and it always remains a high risk.

A warlock can do it as well, by the way. But don't ever attempt it to do with a partner. If you are not alone, the other player will become mind controlled and kill you both.

 

Nizghalad

so any returns about pulling the first trash packs? Doable? Worth it?

thanks for the replies by the way

 

Zifna

I doubt it. You'd have no space to kite and they're not particularly kiteable anyhow.

 

Belzebutinov

Disquette, I think you could slightly improve your farm path
Here's what I do:

Now as you can see, at the dead end, I go straight up and kill the clothies along the green path. The orange circle is the 70 elite you want to avoid, otherwise, it's all clothies and a few demon+be couples, so fairly quick kills. As good a way as any of getting back to the ramp

 

• Disquette

Agreed - I save my two minute cooldowns for killing the elite the few times I've farmed there. I've never had a problem, never potted, etc. As a pally I'd think you could even do this a lot easier than I, and enhance shaman, could.

I know what you're saying. My main disagreement is that the supplicants don't have as high a drop rate of the signets as the eradicators do, and they hurt a lot more than the other people. If it were all clothies, it wouldn't be as bad, though at the rate I pull, I also take more damage from them when both earth shock and grounding totem are on cooldown.

That having been said, when the ramp is camped, I do indeed do what you suggest. If it's crazy camped, I go to legion hold. If that's camped too, I do the ethereals in the North part of BEM, though I don't have a feel for the market for ethereum prison keys yet (none of mine have sold), so that may be a bad choice.

 

Nurru

I tried to farm almost every pull in BT solo as a shadow priest and the only ones I considered manageable were the ones leading to Mother. It's the same pack that everyone farms just through the door. You need to do it solo though because they may dominate you if there's a secondary target. Interestingly, if your threat via VE/VT on the ones you aren't dpsing isn't high enough then they WILL dominate you if you bring out your shadow fiend. Because of this I started using my shadow fiend a bit before the pipe after Naj'entus and it had enough time to fill my mana back up but not risk my life. As an affliction Warlock with a speed zanza you can kill the entire pack by almost just kiting them around the pillar in front of the port npcs, but I simply didn't have enough mana as a priest for that. This process is slow for obvious reasons (I think I was killing 1 mob / 5 minutes), but I made 3,000 gold doing this about 10 hours over the weekend when I was bored.

< Aislinana> Why would it be my job to sleep with vontre? Don't I have standards?

 

Hudini

Put on prot gear and a shield. These mobs hit fast, but hit for very little. Stack some block rating, defense, and block value. It doesn't take very much to render them completely impotent against you. Now grab two "Petrified Lichen Guard"s from Sporregar rep and put Felsteel Shieldspikes on them. I highly recommend Figurine of the Colossus for emergency heals.

Pull the whole floor of mobs, stand facing them (lol) and either A: Bloodthirst, Cleave Sweeping Strikes, repeat, or B: walk away and grab a sandwich, spend quality time with the family, browse porn. Come back before the mobs despawn and collect loot.

I do this with my warrior in Kara purples and T4, but the necessary avoidance is probably attainable at blue levels of gear. Get two Petrified Lichen Guards because they typically break before you're finished filling your bags.

/edit

I realize you guys were talking about a different area. I'm talking about clearing the whole terrace, much like a paladin would AoE farm. It's not as fast as a paladin with a warrior, but it is doable. Protection spec is not required either, just decent tanking gear.