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Old 11/09/07, 11:09 PM   3 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #51 (permalink)
Great Tiger
 
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Originally Posted by Lookit View Post
Prepare to be amazed:

Interface Options, top section, check Auto-loot. Good stuff.

Pretty essential for my rogue's pickpocketing macros.
I think he meant real autoloot, as in you don't have to click corpses. Something like run over the corpse, press autoloot, keep going. It'd be good for sure, but don't think it'll ever happen.

As for money makers, the most obvious one I found was doing all the quests I didn't do while leveling(I hit 70 without stepping into shadowmoon and only doing half of nethersotmr), but that works only once. Farming clefthoofs would have been pretty good if I sold the leather/meat too(crafted my tanking set with it). I was making like 25leather per buff, in crappy blue/green gear from 70 quests, and they sell for about 4-4.5g each, plus the greys/greens and the meat, you're looking at a decent 200+g per hour, but it sucks during prime time. That's also assuming I'm a feral, so I have perma 30%run speed, a lot of time is spent running between mobs, so unless you're a hunter or druid it's probably not worth doing.
 
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Old 11/09/07, 11:45 PM   #52 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Mannoroth
The most important tip I can give is to try to always continue to farm. Find something extremely casual that you can see yourself doing every time you logon/logoff that will get you some gold.

My biggest issue pre-BC was that I only went out to get gold when I absolutely needed it, between dailies/primal water farming/various other trade skill/ah techniques in BC I've found if I can just consistently do that, I'll be fine.

While enchants/gems dents that every so often(Estimate I'll be spending 3k gold on the day s3 releases between my main and my alt) I'll be able to cover it, and start working back up.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 12:24 AM   #53 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Turalyon (EU)
I levelled holy through repeated instance runs and clearing some quest areas with friends. This meant that by the time I hit 70 Terokkar and half of Zangarmarsh were left untouched. While the quests here yield a reasonable amount of gold at 70 they are "grey" to me and I can't see the yellow exclamation mark above the quest giver's head. The only way to find them is to interact with every NPC I come across and see if they offer a quest.

Is there some way to turn on the yellow exclamation marks for grey quests?

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Old 11/10/07, 1:18 AM   #54 (permalink)
Glass Joe
 
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Deathwing
If you're a DPSer, find a healer buddy; if you're a healer, find a DPSer buddy.

I've found that pairing up like this makes farming a hell of a lot more profitable even if you're splitting the goods (and a lot more fun/safe!). Especially if you're a high-burst class like a destruction warlock or such in an area loaded with killables.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 1:43 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Mal'Ganis
The mobs at Legion Hold have a true "infinite respawn" flag set for whatever reason. There can never be less than two mobs (of the possible 14 spawn points for the orc warlocks; 4 at each pillar and one on each side escorting infernals.) If there are ever less than 2 of the orc warlocks, another pair will spawn in two available spots.

[13:07] <Kazanir> Vontre was responsible for Black Mesa
[13:08] <Vontre> Is Black Mesa some Half-Life thing?
 
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Old 11/10/07, 3:44 AM   #56 (permalink)
Piston Honda
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostmane (EU)
Originally Posted by Lookit View Post
Prepare to be amazed:

Interface Options, top section, check Auto-loot. Good stuff.

Pretty essential for my rogue's pickpocketing macros.
Thank you for trying to amaze me but that doesn't fix the issue , helps slightly but the problem is killing about a quarter of all the mobs at Legion hold while continuously casting, I mean max 1 sec stops to reach a new mob with 3-4 mobs beating on you. Then I have to trace back and loot.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 5:15 AM   #57 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Barthilas
Cartographer_Routes plus Cartographer_Data equals a route inclusive of every node in the zone. I farmed 4 stacks of adamantite in an hour that way in Nagrand. Selling them for 25g a stack is only 100 gold, but when you include the primals, eternium (handy since my guild is farming resist gear for hydross) and random green and blue gems, could be much higher.

I'll have to look at that cutting gems for profit dealie. I've got 18 talasites in the bank that need a good home.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 5:23 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Papajan View Post
Does anyone have success with playing with AH stack sizes? For example, making Imbued Netherweave and weapon oils are probably two of the more common uses of Arcane Dust and they use 2 and 3, respectively. Have people gotten better profits on selling stacks of 2-3 for that reason? If so, is there a decent list for more profitable stack sizes? As a buyer, I'd probably pay a premium to not need to re-list or bank items, but I could be atypical.
I've had success with charging extra for different stack sizes though I never bought that item for the sole purpose of this. I had rediculous amounts of Arcane Dust from DEing all the greens I got while leveling and when I did auctions I'd put up stacks of 1,2,5,10,20 depending on the prices. If there were no stacks of size 5 I could somewhat consistently get more for a 5 stack than if I'd just sold them separately. It's been a few months since I've done this, in large part from a couple of people literally putting hundreds of Arcane Dust up as single stacks. Wading through 900+ results for Arcane Dust is a pain and drives many potential buyers away. There were also times where it could have been profitable to buy a full stack of dust and then split it apart to sell in smaller increments. Because of the AH cut, the profit margin for this is generally very low though.

More generally, enchanting materials can be very profitable without having an enchanter at all. Depending on the server, some Greater/Lesser essence pairs sell for wildly different amounts. There have been times where the lesser version was actually selling for more than the greater version. This can also be true for small/largre prismatics as they can now be freely converted back and forth by a high enough level enchanter.

For those that buy greens to DE and sell the mats, what source do you use for expected results of the DE? I'm perfectly willing to do the computation myself for the expected value of the item, I just need a fairly accurate assessment of what that item will yield.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 6:13 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Pyros View Post
That's also assuming I'm a feral, so I have perma 30%run speed, a lot of time is spent running between mobs, so unless you're a hunter or druid it's probably not worth doing.
I usually hate farming but there is just this one exception: Farming Primal Air as Feral in SMV. The permanent run speed (sometimes coupled with the Arena run speed bonus) and epic flight form is like cheating there. You don't have to kill a single non-Elemental mob there and your down time is extremely small with instant flight form. Shift in, fly, drop down as cat, stealth just before you reach the mob is just fun. And with Innervate and a Spirit staff you don't even have to drink most of the time, too.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 6:43 AM   #60 (permalink)
Glass Joe
 
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Earthen Ring
My favorite alt is a Holy Priest Miner / Jewel Crafter. Something that works reasonably well for me is to hit Blade's Edge Mountains for Adamantite Nodes. There's 5 or 6 nodes in the ogre ravine (Gruul's Lair at the north end and a mine at the south end). And once you are King or Queen of the ogres, you can mine them all really easily. Then hop over to Death's Door for 1 more node which nobody ever seems to go after.

There is one notable negative to these nodes. For some reason, they will NEVER spawn as Rich Adamantite Nodes. But I still find them being one of the more consistent series of nodes I can mine.

I usually hit this up before work and with luck I can come out with a stack or two of ore in about 15 minutes before leaving for work.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 8:02 AM   #61 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Illidan
I don't farm too often (I have little reason to seek out more gold - no other 70's and nothing to buy), but in the last 3 days I've made a little over 1k gold farming DM on my druid. I've been suprised at how much gold I've made too because I was mainly shooting for goblin reputation and not really looking to make gold. The only real reqs to doing this (in either DM or one of the other 60 instances, such as strat) is a 70 and high enough enchanting. Being able to stealth to each of the bosses helps speed things up though, I'm sure.

Old enchanting mats (large brilliant shards, greater eternal essence and illusion dust) still go for a lot on my server and will usually sell within a few hours as long as I undercut the AH a bit (8-9g per 1 lbs or 1 gee, 20g a stack for illusion dust).
 
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Old 11/10/07, 10:13 AM   #62 (permalink)
Piston Honda
 
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Hellfire (EU)
My server has alot of twinks.

So whenever I'm protspecced I can make 150g from Soloing Stratholme live side + undead side and I can make another 100g from selling the Righteous orbs since I'm pretty much the only person alliance side that ever puts them on the AH.

Soloing stratholme is fairly easy too, 2p T4 and Figurine of the Collosus allow me to pull large packs of mobs without dying. Slap on a felsteel shield spike on a spare shield and you can pull entire packs, throw in a cleave/thunderclap and your slowly grinding down the mobs.

The only downsides to it are the mobs just before Cannon Master (hand of justice, there's one pull with 3 paladins while you resist most of the stuns there's always one that gets through just as spellreflect fades >.<). The only boss I wasn't able to solo in the whole of strat was Baron Rivendare, I sell all the BoP blues I get from the bosses I kill, and get everything else DE'd by a guildy, if I was an enchanter myself I could possibly make a little bit more from DE'ing the blues aswell.

Takes me anywhere from 1 hour to 1 and a half hour (depending on how intrested I am in getting it done quick). If I go for just the orbs I can be done in about 30 minutes by skipping alot of trash.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 1:06 PM   #63 (permalink)
Glass Joe
 
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Stormrage (EU)
Not exactly farming gold, but farming Aldor rep tokens (which can be sold) is best done in the Arklon ruins, just near Area52. The hounds here have the highest drop rate for Marks of Sargeras, with a decent chance for Fel Armaments as well.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 1:28 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Gnome Warlock
 
Black Dragonflight
Originally Posted by Stardawn View Post
Not exactly farming gold, but farming Aldor rep tokens (which can be sold) is best done in the Arklon ruins, just near Area52. The hounds here have the highest drop rate for Marks of Sargeras, with a decent chance for Fel Armaments as well.
This is obviously only good for non-mana classes, since I believe they have a mana burn.

My personal favorite place to farm is Fire Elementals in SMV. Great drop rate, great respawn rate, and you don't have to worry too much about competition or other mobs.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 2:44 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Windrunner
Outside of raids, I play about 1 1/2 to 2 hours every day. I'm presently sitting on approximately 22,000G.

Interested?

Here's the strat --

POINT ONE: Auctioneer - or how I maximize my Gold/hour while not even looking at the computer screen:

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with the OP on the usefulness of auctioneer, especially in its current format.

His main objection seemed to be the time it took for a scan - I start a scan in the morning before I hop in the shower, hit jump when I get out (to avoid the AFK), and let the scan finish while I'm shaving/making breakfast. The other objection was auctioneer underpricing items - the new market price functionality is MUCH better than the old version with its auto-undercut.

Additionally, the bottom scan feature lets you pick up some AMAZING deals on stuff that you normally wouldn't search for - and it is automated as well. You can even alt-tab while the bottom-scanner is running. The mod will even start remembering your preferences (although the first few times, you're gonna HATE that doorbell sound when it finds Green Hills of Stranglethorn Page 647 for 18 copper less than expected - but like I said, it eventually learns your preferences).

Another new feature sorts all items that you are searching for based on per-item price and gives you a percentage approximation of that item being over- or under-priced based on your historical scan data. For example, say I need to buy some Netherbloom to make Fel Mana pots. I search for Netherbloom and auctioneer shows something like the following:

Netherbloom 6 42s/per 42% of expected
Netherbloom 20 74s/per 74% of expected
Netherbloom 1 95s/per 95% of expected
Netherbloom 5 1.21g/per 121% of expected
(etc.- point being it automatically finds the best per-item price for you, and puts it in a convenient list.)

My pedigree with auctioneer: At the end of WoW 1.0, I was in a raiding guild in Naxx (not clearing, wiping a lot) and STILL managed to bring over close to 4,000G when TBC came out. That was almost entirely due to the (old, bad version) of auctioneer (and also due to the fact that very few other ppl on my server were using it). I'm presently sitting on over 20k gold, and most of that is due to auctioneer (new, better version). I farm about 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day, and raid 5 days a week, so I'm nowhere near poop-sock levels of grinding elementals.


POINT TWO: Farming - or how I maximize my Gold/Hour while holding the mouse. (Main=Herb/Alch Hunter, Alt=Tailor/Chanter 'Lock)

1. Have the main do the 6 dailies in BEM and Skettis. 66G/day, takes about 45 minutes
2. Have the main herb the Talonsworn Forest-Ragers in Skettis while doing the dailies (if it is contested I'll do a lap or 2, if uncontested 4 or 5). VariableG (10-70)/day, takes about 10 minutes, also allows me to make all my own raid consumables.
3. Have the main transmute Primal Earth to Water. 10G/day, takes about 30 seconds. Lucky me.
4. Have the alt do his Tailoring Cloth spec (for me, Shadowcloth) with AH'd mats. Avg of 12.5G/day, Avg of 3 minutes/day (flying out to SMV)

TOTAL: 128.5G/day on average, for about an hour of actual effort. Of course, there are MASSIVE diminishing returns here - but I certainly like 1 hour for 128G better than 2 hours for 160G. Then you add in the Auctioneer stuff that required 0 effort or time and...well...that's how you end up rich. Right!


POINT THREE (Optional): As noted above, SOLOmance can be quite profitable as well. I go on the alt and DE everything. That can get you from 25G-45G/Hour depending on drops, and how much I'm paying attention. Also no competition for mobs.


POINT FOUR (Optional): Buy in the morning, sell at night. That's an auto-win . The exception to this is Saturday morning - that's when a load of alts and lower-levels are on and grinding up their profession skills. Dump all your ore/cloth/leather etc. on the AH late Friday or early Saturday.

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Old 11/10/07, 2:44 PM   #66 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Kul Tiras (EU)
Originally Posted by Stardawn View Post
Not exactly farming gold, but farming Aldor rep tokens (which can be sold) is best done in the Arklon ruins, just near Area52. The hounds here have the highest drop rate for Marks of Sargeras, with a decent chance for Fel Armaments as well.
They have the same drop rate as everything else. It's just that the popular database sites only count a mob as killed when it's looted - and if a mob drops nothing at all, the data gathering addons don't get the loot event.

I've found 71,66 in Shadowmoon to be fairly alright when combined with the daily A Slow Death. The Netherskates drop Fel Gland/Mote of Mana and are skinnable, the air elementals drop Mote of Air. Both drop a healthy amount of trash greys, respawn rates are good. I often get a primal mana and a primal air while I'm finishing up the daily.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 3:40 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Human Warlock
 
Thunderhorn
As Affliction my favorite spots are the manaforges in Netherstorm. Lots of elves...generally low competition, lots of netherweave, good cash, Sunfury signets, greens to DE etc.

EDIT: Why did I say Blade's Edge?

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Old 11/10/07, 5:34 PM   #68 (permalink)
Glass Joe
 
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Dragonblight
Originally Posted by Zaroua View Post
Herbalism's money making potentials are entirely dependent on how fast you can kill the trees in Skettis or on how well you can farm Nightmare Vines. Hunters and Priests can farm Ancient Lichen from instances (SP comes to mind). Sanguine Hibiscus can also sell fairly well if you want to solo farm Underbog - Underbog's for Hunters only however. In any case, selling the Fel Lotus and the Nightmare Seeds is a huge money maker, along with the herbs themselves.


Farming for lichen is in no way limited to those classes. My warrior does it just fine with a little timing. If you can solo the bog packs you'll get more spawns as well. I can average about three stacks of lichen every two lockout rotations making it a bad investment of time. Back when lichen was crazy prices it was better.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 5:42 PM   #69 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Human Warlock
 
Lightbringer
Before I stopped playing, I ran a test on my lock (Demosac specced, with full tailored gear + preraid stuff) in skettis. Killing/herbing trees, and killing elementals, I ended up with 100+ stacks of assorted herbs, 8 stacks of life, 7 stacks of water and 34 greens that were DE'd.

Not a bad day (1.6k, primals for all of barrs resist gear that I never got nethers for, enough potions to last for a few months of raids), but something that will redefine boredom.
I watched a collection of News Radio DVD's while doing it!

On Barr, I would just fly in circles around Nagrand for hours on end; made a ton on ore, and have enough gems left to gem up full tanking and healing sets until next expansion (assuming I log back in :p). I do, though, have a character used solely for jc'ing/de'ing and one used for only alchemy and cloth transmutes, giving me a tiny bit of an edge (The two tradeskill rule, made for people like me, never actually affects people like me :p)
 
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Old 11/10/07, 6:02 PM   #70 (permalink)
Von Kaiser
 
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Uldum
This is a bit unorthodox, but a pally on our server has hit the gold cap of 240,000g on TWO characters. He's accomplished this by dueling people for money, usually 50g per duel. He pulls out all the stops though: SR resist, LoH, potting, even flasking. I think he usually breaks even against top players. But against scrubs who thinks they're hot stuff, well... I guess that's wehre the majority of his profits come from.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 6:49 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Aerie Peak (EU)
That's 9600 duels. If a duel takes 3 minutes in total then he would have spend every minute of 20 days only dueling. Any source? I find it hard to believe.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 7:15 PM   #72 (permalink)
Great Tiger
 
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Originally Posted by Osse View Post
That's 9600 duels. If a duel takes 3 minutes in total then he would have spend every minute of 20 days only dueling. Any source? I find it hard to believe.
I find it hard to believe 9600 of those people would actually pay the 50g. Heh.
 
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Old 11/10/07, 7:17 PM   #73 (permalink)
Great Tiger
 
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Lightning's Blade (EU)
Is it confirmed that that is the gold cap then? I wouldnt mind a screenshot of it either. (doesnt have to be that paladin, some guild bank would do aswell)
 
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Old 11/10/07, 7:22 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Blackrock
Tailoring+enchanting is pretty bad for money really but there are a few things...

Imbued netherweave bags are kinda nice to make.

72 cloth(10g)+ 8 arcane dust (10g?)+ 1 greater planar (2g) + the 2 spider silk (5g)

Sell for 45-ish, but of course you end up with all those mats for free just from doing almost anything in this game, and then farm the silk after skettis dailies.

If you're trying to manufacture enchanting mats, some good things to disenchant are
arcane dust = netherweave pants
greater planar essence = netherweave pants
shards = no good one really, all pretty expensive, but i've done arcanoweave boots in a pinch and saved maybe 2g
void crystals = soulcloth gloves are great when people put soul essences up for like 30 silver each (yes this actually happens all the time)
 
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Old 11/10/07, 7:55 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Draka
Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
My personal favorite:
Fishing Deviates and selling the Delights. Any class can do it, any level can do it, any spec. Stacks sell for a solid 10g.