Its exactly these limits that really make this type of proposition not very useful. Unless you're willing to relegate one of your 70 alts to AH mule I guess.

Which would require under priced goods in both directions, which is probably pretty unrealistic. Ah well, if it is $25 with gold limits, then that pretty much kills the plan anyway.

I just started a druid over clean, no twinking, as alliance, and my level 1 AH mule had ~1400G when my main hit level 42, just from selling green drops, herb/skinning, and aggressively playing the AH with auctioneer. So that's a big "no" to the gold restrictions.

They're referring to gold you're allowed to transfer, not gold you're allowed to have.

Congrats on the level of gold at a low level, but they're talking about gold limits on transferring.

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Server transfers carry the gold limits by character level. It means you cannot move a character with more than those amounts already on hand.

delete, was beten to it

I have an old one i used sinse beta, only doable as horde doe, but ever watched the Deadly Blunderbuss prices? atm on my server it costs MAX 70silver, and u can get the profit of it they sell for 5g atm. this is how i afford mount everytime even if i dont want Engineering later i take it just to get the mount, lvl 125 crafted gun for the quest "Warsong suplies" sorry for this wierd writing but im tierd

REALLY good thread <3 thanks all!

Recently, the Motes of ... have been quite a money maker. Used to snag up cheap ones to turn into primals, but now it's the other way round.

Have been selling single Motes (!) of Earth for 4.5g - that's about 1.5-2times the price of a Primal (!). Or, in other terms, I'm getting about 15 times as much gold for a single Primal if I chop 'em up in Motes instead.
Works for a couple of other primals too. No clue why and it's a fairly steady seller too (not just the odd mote/week or so), but I'm not one to complain.

I am just wondering, WHO is THAT stupid? Sounds highly doubtable.

For most players, Motes are a one-way street. I didn't know it was possible to sunder Fire or shatter Earth until I respecced my rogue to be a Miner. Add in that, bar Water, Fire and Earth are the only motes used in crafting, and they begin to have value. Any non-miner who wants a mote can only pay for motes themselves, whereas people who want primals can pay for either. Miners can then break apart the primals and sell the motes at a possible profit, if the population will tolerate it.

I got a PM that requested an explanation of how to setup AutoDisenchanting with a spammable macro. I figured I would share it since I bet other people would be interested as well.

It's quite simple - go to your Enchantrix configuration GUI and tick "Watch bags for disenchantable items". It's found under the Automation tab.

Then you simply need a macro that reads the following
Sorry to the PM sender for not replying earlier. I have been quite busy lately.

That's a pretty extreme difference, but I've seen a similar thing on my server - 10 motes of earth sell for ~ 1g higher than the primal, with smaller stacks being a bit more profitable than that.

I noticed that when I was crafting a lot of Ironshield pots, oftentimes I would pay a bit more for motes rather than take the time to send the primals to my miner (possibly not logged out by a mailbox), break apart, and send back. So factor in people's laziness along with their ignorance.

It's interesting to me how many times single items sell for a better profit than multiples, but also that well-researched stack sizes (matching mats required for popular enchants/crafting items) can also make more of a profit than individual pieces.

That is absolutely true. I find that selling Arcane Dust in stacks of 2,4,8 and 20 is great, as well as Large Prismatic Shards in 1, 2, and 4 seem to sell great. I haven't experimented in stacks above 4, though I tend to price my goods low enough that someone will just buy 3 stacks of 4 if they need 12 of them, or any combination to meet their needs.

It's relevant to note that Sunwell is going on the PTR soon.

For those wishing to profit, this is a good time to stock up on what will be needed as raids kick in into progression mode when Sunwell hits live.

Granted, this won't be the windfall that season 3 was but there will definitely (IMO) be a bump in raid-related mats/products.

It's possible it won't be a huge bump due to the fact that most good raiders/guild banks have been stock-piling for months but I believe there will be a profit opportunity.

Yeah, but the question is, "What do they need?" And when the 2.4 hits the PTR, you can bet the big raiding guilds will do their best to test the content on the PTRs and stockpile anything that they'd need on the live server so when it comes out they can do their best to waltz through what bosses are unlocked. I don't think there'll be that much of an opportunity to make a profit from the hardcore raiders; after all, these are the guys who have "beaten the game".

Remember that despite the addition of a new raid zone, there will still be a massive influx of tier 4 / Malechazaar quality epics in the first few weeks, when everybody will have given the new Sunwell 5 man instance a go, and even more so when people start unlocking the heroic mode (although, judging by the rate you can get to honored with current factions, I'd wager it'll not be uncommon in the first week to have people with the new heroic mode epics). And the people sporting these are either casuals, or alts of hardcore raiders, and thus unlikely to access a well supplied guild bank for a non raiding alt.

So, remember that everybody will want gems and enchants for those, and probably spellthread and nether leg armors. Now, seeing as there's already a disproportionate demand for Large Prismatic compared to Void crystals on most realms, I'd say the prices for the former will skyrocket.

Also, some enchants require primals, and I'm pretty sure people will want, say 81 healing or 20 agility on their new weapon. Thus, the primal prices will go up as well for the most popular enchants.

As for gems, I'd say that unlike at the start of a new season, pure PVE gems (and cuts) will be most popular; the already worthless Talasite won't suddenly become a top seller, but Stars of Elune, Living Rubies and so on may experience a temporary increase in price.

Unless the new patch will also add new recipes and formulae to make use items like Void Crystals over LPS, or 2 color gems over single color ones, I'd say the old money makers are going to have a comeback.

These are basically all the commodities that are likely to be in high demand, however, depending on specific realm capacity to produce these, some raw materials, like Adamantite ore and Nexus Crystals may also sell for more.

Of course, there's also the possibility some rather worthless items suddenly become important for the new quests (i.e Adamantite Frames and Khorium Powe Cores were huge sellers when the Netherwing reputation quests were first released, or Light Feathers when the new Quiver pattern was released in 2.3). Or even more so, in case of easily farmable goods, there's also the possibility of new markets via daily turn in quests. But, until we see a PTR build, these are pure speculations, and I'd recommend that nobody stockpile on any goods they don't usually trade.

I have been thinking a lot about this in the past few weeks. I am transferring to another server soon. I am not doing it to make money; I am doing it to play with friends. Of course, I am going to try to make as much as I can off of the one time deal. Here are is the background info:

1) I have over the Level 70 limit in gold. No big problem there, just buy up mats to take with me until I am at 9999g.
2) The server I am leaving is old and has 10 guilds in BT progression-wise.
3) The server I am going to is newer and most guilds are in SSC/TK range.
4) Every single mat that I checked on the new server costs less *in my opinion, the most important factor*

Without the gold transfer restriction, my instincts would just be to liquidate everything I have on my old server and bring across as much gold as possible, increasing my buying power (actual wealth) on the new server due to cheaper mats. All of a sudden my 15k buys a lot more than it used to.

Do I just do this anyway and give the extra 5000g to my buddy who is also transferring, who then gives it back to me once we get to the new server?

If no, are there any mats worth stockpiling to take with me?

If no to both, once transfer is complete, do I begin to stockpile mats at the cheaper price knowing that due to progression the demand is going to rise? I checked every market that I know anything about including LPS, LBS, GEE, GPE, Voids, Herbs, Arcane Dust, Pots, Flasks, Ore, etc. , Everything is less on the new realm.

Thoughts?

If your future server has few (no) BT guilds, I'd go with cut epic gems. You'd be the only source, and could inflate the price accordingly.

I believe they've stated that you unlock the instance through dailies (obtaining rep), not item turn-ins. But I believe there will be more explanation later this week (hopefully).

But would the economy support it? Would they sell in a low pop realm with less ability to pay my inflated prices? Or would enough people care about having BT gems pre-BT?

Ellipsis abuse notwithstanding there is wisdom here: be sure to keep tabs on the shifting PTR patch notes (there's a link from the front page of the official website if you look closely). I can probably count on my local Bleeding Edge Content Guild to be well-prepared for Sunwell consumables, but if there's a new That's Asking A Lot or Craftsman's Writ in the pile of new dailies then there will be moneymaking opportunities. The new cooking daily quests have shown that Blizzard knows how to make a reasonable commodity requirement for a reasonable reward that is still not quite trivial. There is always the specter of dungeon nerfs -- in theory nerfing SSC and TK might reduce the need to flask up, but in practice it may get more guilds into Hyjal and BT and increase the general demand for consumables. Something like the chaotic skyfire diamond buff or the change to flasks that first allowed them to persist through death is also going to be documented.

My point was not to personally speculate but to encourage you to do the same. Making money off of WoW patch notes is like Wall Street EZMode. You think it's too obvious to work, but then it's Friday of patch week and mages are still asking you where you got that cool floating table spell.