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11/12/07, 6:09 AM
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#101 (permalink)
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Don Flamenco
Human Warlock
Lightninghoof
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Mining. Enjoy.
This is my Terokkar route.

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11/12/07, 6:10 AM
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#102 (permalink)
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by Valerys
Has anyone had any experience with running lowbies through instances for gold?
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Its easy to do, but the repair bills can be horrendous and usually balance out any money you would have made. Not really worth it compared to other things like primals and dailies.
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11/12/07, 6:13 AM
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#103 (permalink)
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Everyone licks chicken.
Blood Elf Paladin
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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Originally Posted by Valerys
Has anyone had any experience with running lowbies through instances for gold?
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It depends, on rare occasions it can be good, but generally the amount they pay you tends to be too low in comparison to what you could make elsewhere. I've done it a few times, but that was more out of boredom and the fact that doing Scarlet Monastery instances in two pulls amuses me.
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11/12/07, 6:27 AM
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#104 (permalink)
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Piston Honda
Tauren Druid
Terenas (EU)
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I'm surprised nobody (or only few) have mentioned DE so far, it's the easiest way to make money for sure, and it's as risk-free as possible since a) people need new enchants all the time and b) no deposit costs. Just level any alt to 35 (a blood elf hunter works best), summon to shattrath, level up enchanting to 275, DE anything you get your hands on. The AH is your playground.
I used to farm a lot, usually the "excuse" I use is to farm for rep - I'm exalted with Sporregar, Consortium (free gems) and the Nagrand orcs that way. Especially as an herbalist farming for Sporregar rep makes a lot of sense. When you had grey items, greens, netherweave cloth (sells for 5g per stack on my server), and the occasional blue/rare pattern, it's a good deal of money.
As an herbalist, farming in Zangarmarsh is the best, either the bog loard area (southwest) or the dire mire (northeast), all mobs are super easy and can be skinned for herbs and motes of life.
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11/12/07, 7:19 AM
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#105 (permalink)
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Piston Honda
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I only have a couple tips/tricks for money since most of my money is made on dailys anyways.
1) Never list your fast-seller item for the cheapest on the AH. List it for second cheapest. Lets say theres 2 stacks of netherweave for 2g, 3 stacks for 3g50s. I'll list my 3 stacks for 3g49s. Why? Most of the time some idiot has listed their netherweave for way under normal (2g.) His are going to sell fast of course... but since whoever buys his 2 stacks is probably going to need more netherweave, they'll buy mine too. If I had listed for 1g99s they'd still have bought both mine and the idiot's netherweave so I should list as high as I can. And even if he only buys the cheapest stacks, well then mine become cheapest so they sell anyway.
2) Split stack based on crafting pattern needs. I always sell Clefthoof Leather in 2's because the Clefthoof armor kit takes 2 leather. I can charge more for 5 stacks of 2 than 1 stack of 10, since I'm selling exactly what the crafter needs in exactly the amount he needs. Heavy knothide tends to sell well in 2's as well, knothide however is best sold in 10's or 20's. Basically look up the most common crafting patterns for your raw materials and sell exactly what the crafter needs to craft one of that item. A crafter will pay slightly more for a partial stack just due to convienience in a lot of cases.
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11/12/07, 8:30 AM
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#106 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Human Warrior
Lightbringer (EU)
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During the week I'm able to log on between 5 and 6 server time. Our raids start at 7, so I have about 1 hour to farm. I have leveled and enhancement shaman for faster farming (my main is a protection warrior) - don't ask me why I didn't level a lock or mage for that (I hate playing caster classes). That hour is spent farming primals for my primal might transmute and herbing in the meantime. I hate Elemental Plateau, as it is always overcrowded, so:
- I dive in Sylmyr Lake for motes of water (very nice drop rate for the level of monsters there)
- I fly to Shadowmoon Valley and farm motes of fire and air there
- then I fly to Netherstorm to get my dose of motes of mana.
Stopping on the way to pick up every herb possible, then flying around Netherstorm and Shadowmoon Valley for Netherbloom and Nightmare Vine.
All that done, I sell the might + herbs for about 170-200 gold every day, depending on the number of herbs I was able to pick.
During the weekend I use my main (miner) to stock up on metals for raids (weightstones etc.). I sell the excess metals and keep on herbing on my alt. Occasionally I will make some potions/elixirs/flasks and put them on the Auction House too. I often send herbs to the guild bank too. This way I very rarely go under 3000 gold. Mind you, I'm not a thrifty type, I spend a lot on alchemy recipes, epic blacksmithing plans, etc.
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11/12/07, 9:27 AM
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#107 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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I never ever sell anything on my main. I always start an AH toon to handle it all. It isn't in any guild, it never speaks to anyone, it's online for the minimum amount of time possible.
I don't practice anything shady or unethical. Call me paranoid if you want, but I just like my auction house transactions to be hard to trace to me. I'm yet to exert any real form of market leverage from this point of anonymity, but I'm sure one day I'll buy out all the auctions of one thing, just to jack up the price.
I'm also one who delays transactions for wider margins. I'm becoming more and more patient in my old age, specifically when it can make me a larger profit. I nickel and dime, too. Especially when I'm leveling an alt, I don't like not having a gathering skill of some description, so there's always stuff to sell.
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11/12/07, 10:40 AM
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#108 (permalink)
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Don Flamenco
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Alchemy has made me my money, or more precisely, herbalism did.
I don't know if its my server, but the price of every outland herb was at least 1g per, often closer to 2 for netherbloom/vine/mana thistle.
The conversion of herbs into potions, of course, netted me very little in money, if anything, but I still do it for the discoveries.
Haste potions are my major cash source from the profession now.
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11/12/07, 11:10 AM
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#109 (permalink)
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Don Flamenco
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I've never been an uber-farmer by any means, so I'm not entirely sure this is a very efficient way to farm.
However, on my other rogue, Mana Tombs was a great place for me to mine Adamantite (and the occasional Khorium if I got lucky). Most of the nodes (2 per instance) are far enough away from mobs to allow you to hit them without pulling aggro. Being Subt spec certainly helped with this, but it's definitely not necessary.
If you decide to bring a Stealthy-friend, there are also always 2 chests in the zone that can easily be ninja'ed. Another rogue and I would double Sap, assist gank, and clear the 3-4 mobs near chests, and would end up getting a handful (5-6g) of gold, potions, and several BoE blues.
So, if you're like me (loathe repetitive dailies), you might get a kick out of Mana Tombs.
Last edited by Ozzmar : 11/12/07 at 11:17 AM.
Reason: Holy crap, I think I'm becoming slysdexic...
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11/12/07, 11:15 AM
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#110 (permalink)
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Don Flamenco
Tauren Shaman
Tichondrius
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I am somewhat lucky in that enhancement shaman have turned out to possibly be the best mob grinding class in the game (Even moreso in 2.3)
I have decided that farming blood elves outside of BT is my best spot. The area can easily support 3-4 people and there are roughly a dozen nightmare vine nodes as well.
The best advice I can give though is to try a little bit of everything so you can do whatever fits your mood. If you only know how to farm mobs and are not in the mood for that, you will do nothing. So learn the AH and do that instead etc.
Also search for items used to grind tradeskills. People often make like 8 heavy clefthoof X or 8 imbued netherweave X and just put them on AH for like 15-18g. These items all de into large prismatics which, on my server, have been going for 25g for 3 months (and even more once season 3 starts)
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11/12/07, 11:17 AM
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#111 (permalink)
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Piston Honda
Undead Rogue
Al'Akir (EU)
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Originally Posted by Ozzmar
I've never been an uber-farmer by any means, so I'm not entirely sure this is a very efficient way to farm.
However, on my other rogue, Mana Tombs was a great place for me to mine Adamantite (and the occasional Khorium if I got lucky). Most of the nodes (2 per instance) are far enough away from mobs to allow you to hit them without pulling aggro. Being Subt spec certainly helped with this, but it's definitely not necessary.
If you decide to bring a Stealthy-friend, there are also always 2 chests in the zone that can easily be ninja'ed. Another rogue and I would double Sap, assist gank, and clear the 3-4 mobs near chests, and would end up getting a handful (5-6g) of gold, potions, and several BoE blues.
So, if you're like me (loathe repetitive dailies), you might get a kick out of Mana Tombs.
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As a rogue I actually visit mana-tombs quite often. It gives me alot of greens and the occasional blue that gets sharded right away and also a nice amount of gold from the chests. If you have some decent gear you can quite easily solo the packs standing near the chests. I also pick up ancient lichen there although it isn't worth as much as it used to be. Generally it's about 12-15g worth of pure gold per reset and then the chance for greens, blues and blue gems.
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11/12/07, 11:42 AM
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#112 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Dwarf Warrior
Aggramar (EU)
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Small tip but you dont actually even have to undercut someones prices on the AH, instead make sure that your minimum bid value is less than theirs, buyout value the same. Doing it this way means your item will still be listed first and you're not loosing out even if its just a few silver, part of the reason why I can never understand the massively undercutting crowd.
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11/12/07, 11:46 AM
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#113 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Dwarf Hunter
Aggramar (EU)
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As a hunter I have recently been solo farming Heroic Slave Pens chests. Takes about 5 minutes now I am good at it. There are 2 chests which are easily accessible, each chest has 10gold in it and a chance for greens/blue and gems.
Here's a video of me doing it, warning fairly low quality video and I made a few mistakes on this run which I recovered from. Usually I don't get hit at all.
Solo Farming chests in Heroic Slave Pens
You can reset the instance when you are outside and i have found it will reset the chests, which is odd as i thought heroics were on 1 day timers.
I mainly do this for fun and bit of gold, the main way i make money is by cutting gems. I buy bagfuls of Adamantite Ore off of the AH for about 22g a stack and prospect it all. I then use auctioneer to scan the AH for just the gems. I can then use the auctioneer data to cut the most profitable gem for each colour as i have most of the recipes. I have made about 10-15k gold doing this over a few months.
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11/12/07, 11:57 AM
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#114 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Tauren Warrior
Destromath
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I personally don't have much time to farm, and the dailies are worse than grinding after a while. What I have done is created some trade mules to make me money since I have a couple of 60+ alts laying around.
Primal Mooncloth and Shadowcloth Transmute: The first one pays for your mats, the second is pure profit.
Earth to Water transmute: Ten gold or more per day.
Meta Gems: If you have somebody high enough to do earthstorm diamonds these are very profitable if you know somebody with the Consortium rep to make Relentless Earthstorm Diamond.
I log in each character once a day, do the transmutes and mail everything off to a trademule to wait for opportune times to sell. The weekends seem to be the best time to buy and worst time to sell.
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11/12/07, 1:02 PM
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#115 (permalink)
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Hunter
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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I mostly get my money from selling flasks these days. Over time I've built up a steady stock of Fel Lotus, which I didn't really use much. Elixir spec'ed alchemist and some luck with procs usually keep me provided with what I need myself.
I tend to list them a bit before raid times start (usually 19.00/20.00 here in Europe) so people who've farmed can buy them. They either buy them right before they go to raids or right after, so I list them for 8 hours around 17.00.
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11/12/07, 1:12 PM
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#116 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Kuk
I haven't seen anyone mention BRD, which surprises me; it's reasonably modest, but I have seen a number of videos on YouTube showing almost exactly the path I take through the instance, which is:
Shadowforge Lock -> Angerforge -> Plugger -> Incendius -> Black Vault -> Loregrain
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I've done this as well before learning about solo Mana-Tombs chest runs. I assume you do Hurley Blackbreath and Phalanx in there, and I'm not sure if you do Flamelash, Panzor (if he's up) or the 7 dwarves event but they are all doable.
To save running time, I ninja-invite someone, make a raid, and zone in and out of MC to reset. I think the order you list is probably more efficient than mine though, since I cap out earlier than 5/hour sometimes.
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11/12/07, 2:03 PM
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#117 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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Holy?
I've read through the the whole thread and it has some great ideas on farming herbs and working the AH.
But I still have a few questions:
What is the best way to make money off alchemy/Herbalism?
What sells the best?
Should i make herbs into pots?
What stack sizes should I sell and what herbs?
Here is my armory: The World of Warcraft Armory
I am holy specced and can't really grind many mobs or protect myself from a good DPS class in the wild
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11/12/07, 2:21 PM
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#118 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Kelex
I've read through the the whole thread and it has some great ideas on farming herbs and working the AH.
But I still have a few questions:
What is the best way to make money off alchemy/Herbalism?
What sells the best?
Should i make herbs into pots?
What stack sizes should I sell and what herbs?
Here is my armory: The World of Warcraft Armory
I am holy specced and can't really grind many mobs or protect myself from a good DPS class in the wild
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Make Super Mana/Health pots.
I do this all the time and sell them for ~12g/stack. I've found that they sell in the 10-15g area on the servers I play on.
It helps to have an epic flier to make it around between herb nodes quickly.
Before I retired this character, I was making about 60 Super Mana's per day, and about 20 Fel Manas per day to use for raids (And sell/give to guildies). I sold alot of the excess, considering I only needed about 15 supers and 10 fels per raid unless we were wiping on or learning a fight (Fuck you, Vashj).
Anyhow, hope that helps you somewhat.
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11/12/07, 2:39 PM
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#119 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Huntardish
Make Super Mana/Health pots.
I do this all the time and sell them for ~12g/stack. I've found that they sell in the 10-15g area on the servers I play on.
It helps to have an epic flier to make it around between herb nodes quickly.
Before I retired this character, I was making about 60 Super Mana's per day, and about 20 Fel Manas per day to use for raids (And sell/give to guildies). I sold alot of the excess, considering I only needed about 15 supers and 10 fels per raid unless we were wiping on or learning a fight (Fuck you, Vashj).
Anyhow, hope that helps you somewhat.
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Yeah that helps give me some insight on what I need to do. I'm actually interested just because I want an epic mount and want to actively go after it.
I remember back in the day when i farmed netherbloom all day for mana pots  . Didn't make money but i was usually the one giving extra mana pots to healers in raids.
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11/12/07, 5:09 PM
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#120 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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Does anyone have a good "Daily Quest" list of the ten dailies that net the most gold/time?
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11/12/07, 5:25 PM
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#121 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Berkut
Does anyone have a good "Daily Quest" list of the ten dailies that net the most gold/time?
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I always did 9 of the Netherwing dailies and "Fires over Skettis". I skipped the quest where you turn in 40 Netherwing Crystals, because I never could get 40 from the mobs I would kill for the other quests, but I could get enough every days, so I rotated it with the Skettis quest.
I'm not really sure about good Skettis (Other than Fires over Skettis) or Ogri'la dailies, as I've never done them.
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11/12/07, 5:26 PM
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#122 (permalink)
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Piston Honda
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#1 Nethermine Cargoes 18.2g?
#2 Booterang 12g
#3 Nethercite Ore 12g
#4 Dragons are the least of our problems (don't do this at primetime, or if you do, group for it) 12g and 10-20 crystals
#5 Twilight Portal netherwing killquest (takes about 4 minutes and usually 2-4 rich ada veins up)12g
#6Fires over Skettis 12g
#7Skettis escort 9.2g
#8Demon banishing (group for this, pull ganarg analyzers to wrath and ae all 6 down for faster completion) 12g +shartuul event every 5th day(if you dont get a full darkrune)
#9 Ogrila bombs 12g
#10 Aether Rays 12g
As you can see, you easily get 12gx 8, 18g x1, 9g x1 with hardly any work. Combine this with the drops that occur during the kill quests (between 3 and 10 greens easily just from netherwing quests), you're netting close to 150g from greys/arcane dust/quest turnins.
Additionally, as has been mentioned, the shartuul event can net you the badge of tenacity, which is one of the best feral tank trinkets in the game and can sell from 800-2000gold easily. Shartuul is further worth doing as in 2.3 you can get superheal/mana potions from ogrila instead of just shitty ogre ones. Even if the epic bracers/gloves have incredibly low sell prices on your server (50g-ish on dragonblight) void crystals still sell well. Fuck the druid ring though, seriously should not be on his loot table.
Optional #11 Do simon says(ogrila) instead of skettis escort, same gold amount,+15 apexis shards, but you dont get the 2 potions, on the otherhand, you dont have to fight people for the quest-spawn.
optional #12: netherwing crystals: Every 2nd/3rd day, depending on your luck with drops during "dragons" daily, this is an easy turnin, not worth grinding to do as a daily for cash only terms however.
*edit* The two quests from yarzil @nwing ledge are long, droprates suck, and the reward is not worth the food/netherweave cost. Additionally the "deadliest trap ever laid" etc. are garbage without a group and long even with one.
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Though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable; I simply am not there.
On your server, causing econo-trauma.
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11/12/07, 5:28 PM
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#123 (permalink)
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Piston Honda
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I rolled my Warlock exactly for one reason, farming gold.
It's really easy to do and nearly everyone can do it. All you need to do is search the auction house for Shadow Wrath gear really to get a pretty good amount of shadow damage. Stamina isn't really important because of Siphon Life, Life Drain and their effects combined with Fel Armor. If things look bleak you just fear. Anyways, thats not really on topic and is pretty obvious so I'll move on.
Outside of farming primals with my Warlock I found one of the best places to farm is around the first mana forge south of Area 52 in Netherstorm. The area with the engineers. Basically what I do is do the lower level then walk up this hill to clear the next camp. Each camp takes around 5-6 minutes to do, and with ample spell damage (900~) it only takes 3 GCD to kill a mob. When you kill one camp the other camp will entirely be respawned, so hardly any downtime. Save your dark pacts and life tap GCD's when you're walking or when you get spell breaker effect on you, is really the only tips I can give.
You can do it by yourself with minimal downtime, but with a healer (druid is best) you can go forever. The other advantage is they loot while you kill, and you can split it however you like at the end. These runs (which we usually do for an hour) nets around 30-40g in just silver, 600-700 netherweave, vendor trash around 15g, a buncha greens (amount varies obviously, but around 6-10 usually) and lots of reputation. Depending on your luck you can usually net around 8-12 tomes on average and nearly 150 signet. So around 7.5k rep in an hour.
The last good farming place is legion hold in SMV. The areas with the Warlocks channeliing. No matter how much spell damage you have, there is no way you can out pace the respawn rate of the mobs (atleast I couldn't with nearly 1200 spell damage). Outside of having to kill the pitlord once every ~10 minutes, you can go on forever and ever.
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11/12/07, 5:37 PM
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#124 (permalink)
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by Tojara
The last good farming place is legion hold in SMV. The areas with the Warlocks channeliing. No matter how much spell damage you have, there is no way you can out pace the respawn rate of the mobs (atleast I couldn't with nearly 1200 spell damage). Outside of having to kill the pitlord once every ~10 minutes, you can go on forever and ever.
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Just to add to this, there's pretty much nothing more efficient than an MS/Sweeping Strikes warrior for farming the warlocks in LH, they die in 4 hits, pummel and macestun proc like crazy, and Sweeping strikes is up every 6-8th mob for fantastic speed pulls. You will get your shit grilled by morgoron's rain of fire unless you get lucky stuns however, but he is easily avoided/duoed. SP or Feral druid are the perfect partners for this area if you are MS.
With Whirlwind getting a significant buff in 2.3 and the SS change, fury warriors will be on par with MS for clearing this area, if not slightly better. It's still a great area for any burst dps class (warlocks have 5k hps and almost zero armor), but those classes that can ae without mana win out for kills per minute.
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Though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable; I simply am not there.
On your server, causing econo-trauma.
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