Mex

Hrmmmm MC bosses are ~40g each iirc. 4g per person doesn't really seem worth it, and at best you'd be getting 1 LPS per boss, maybe making it 7g per person. Let's say you could do Azuregos and Ony with 3 people in an hour, including travel time. You're looking at around 300-400g in cash, an 18 slotter, 3 epics each (2 LPS total), and a handful of BoE blues that could be converted into LBS or AH'd (some of the better ones still go for up to 100g). It wouldn't be unreasonable for each person to walk away with 200-250g from an hour's work, once the AH'ing had been done. Even at the very minimum, I think you'd get about 150g each. To compete with that in MC, you'd need to clear the entire place in around 30 minutes (or probably a bit longer, I think Rag drops a lot more cash).

From what I've heard, BWL is quite profitable though. Bosses there drop ~100g each, but the thought of even looking at the suppression room again means they could drop 10,000g each and I still wouldn't go in there.

 

Opioid

Seed of Corruption changes the dynamic of the Suppression room/Nefarian early stage for the better. You should try it with a couple locks. Everyone having 10KHP helps more than you'd think as well.

 

Soundworks

Dynamite thread, thanks very much to all that have contributed, have made 2-3 thousand gold this week through some planning after reading all this. I have 3 lvl 70s (jc/miner - herb/alch - tailor/enchant) all on max skill.

I'm using all the techniques - buy cheaper at weekends, Large Prismatics/green quality created by enchanter via JC and even grinding a bit in SMV (150-200g/hour). The one skill I cannot use to create lots of money is herbalism. I have a druid that has epic flight form and that can herb at the speed of heat (in flight form) but the herbs sell for peanuts, even at peak times for the raiders. A stack of felweed goes for 7G, raqgveil for 5-8G, dreaming glory 10g and even things like mana thistle go for 10g a stack. Golden Sansam goes for 15G which is double Felweed for some crazy reason. Even the -rarer- netherbloom/nightmare vine go for under 20g a stack and are not that easy to collect, and time is money friend..

If I look to alchemist on that character I can make super mana/health potions/major agi - a stack goes for under 10G so not worth it. Some of the more exotic potions/elixirs are sometimes sold but not at great prices. That leaves Fel Lotus and primal life as the only real money making parts of herbalism. Am I missing out on something? To get epic flight skill on this char I used to collect terocone and mana thistle etc all day long but in those days they sold for 40-70g a stack. Those days have been and gone.

 

Starelf

Are you sure you are not on Thunderhorn(EU)? Identical here, sadly.

 

• droeber

As far as alchemy goes, I find that I make the most money by selling old-world flasks, especially Supreme Power, and to a lesser extent, Titans. The mats are peanuts to get, and I sometimes get elixir mastery procs.

 

Kapten

I think S4 will be just as big as S3...

(Bluepost original) my source is mmo-champion.com

Q: With the launch of Season 3 for arena's, Season 1 gear became available for honor. My question is - when Season 4 starts, will Season 2 gear be available ... [for honor?]
A: That's the plan Stan. (Subject to change)

 

Karoshi

I don't really think there's much profit to get when S4 launches. Most people noticed the S3-buissness, so my bet is
1.) The AH will be very flooded - Inflation
2.) People will buy their gems/enchants long before S4 starts

I thought about acting in the same way as with S3 (invested 1000g, made 7000g in 10 hours), but my guess is that there are more than enough people that try the same thing and it will all go very very wrong.

Meat & Greet <- Watch me movie, beach!

 

KamPa

Plus, it isn't said that S4 will actually be released before WOTLK. If it isn't, well, not many will prefer grinding honor over grinding levels.

 

Enova

It probably won't be as big, because it will most certainly be dissociated from the release of Sunwell Isle. Now, as I said somewhere, that's one of the bigger gear floods in the game, and people will try to emulate the Season 3 success.

However, if people got rich once, and they pulled it off again a second time, people who had no business with the AH will notice a pattern and prepare for the next big gear flood...

According to WowHead, some bosses in MC have an estimated wealth of 100 gold onwards:
Ragnaros
Gehenas

Now, unless that wealth consist of gold dropped + average vendor value of the epics dropped, I'd say it's pretty worthwhile for 10 people to farm it.

Also,I'm not sure how accurate the data is, or how many sample kills they're based on, but some bosses, like Magmadar and Garr, show no estimated wealth, while some have around 40ish gold worth of wealth:
Lucifron
Shazraah

I hardly think they'd have a reason to release season 2 armor for honor points AFTER WOTLK then, and seeing as they just claimed that's the plan, well... season 4 will be based on non class specific sets in Sunwell, I guess...

They'll just release it after Kil'Jaden has been on farm for a while, and when the amount of so called tier 6.5 geared people will is significant enough to have an impact on top ranked arena matches.

 

◊ Cadfael

It's certainly heaver than MoneyFu, as the latter only counts totals. I know that data is aggregated after some time though (a month ?).

Anyway, memory footprint alone has per se nothing to do with loading time. Of course the LUA interpreter loads the savedVariables however the amount of them weight far less than the "structure". If you save them in a brainless way, the interpreter is constantly allocating, copying and throwing helper tables away which then costs time and processing power. So you can have one addon that has 50 MB of savedVariables and one that has 25MB and if you load the one with less data, it would still take longer to startup than if you take the one with more. Pure memory usage numbers are a very bad way to measure things.

If you want to have the lowest memory footprint available, then you should stick with MoneyFu. Storing data over time in a more verbose manner will just cost more memory. There's nothing you can do against that. Noone can pull data out of nowhere. Data requires storage.

In game performance is far more depending on the addons and addons code themselves and not so much on their saved Variables (and thus memory footprint) so there too, it isn't the best value to optimize on. If your focus lies on startup time, number of addons and their dependencies count far more than their savedVariables. Ace is actually not the best thing here as it comes with a fairly heavy set of dependant libraries. The cost of loading these is offset with the amount of addons you have that use them.

As for your question: It's below 5MB for me but I run happily with a ~50MB addon usage and I was, months ago raiding happily along beyond 100MB memory used. However as it's name starts with an "A" and thus has a relativ high chance of being loaded as first addon which uses Ace, it gets added all the footprint of the Ace libraries, if you go and profile memory.

 

tommtomm

Thank you for posting this, I was oblivious to this fact.

Anyone have a ballpark estimate of the cost to get to 275?

 

• Havelcek

I just did it on an alt without spending any money beyond what I was looting as I levelled up. The trick is to take all the cloth that you are collecting as you level and have a tailor convert it into green items for DEing. Then you have all the raw materials you need to level up. Its very easy.

 

Moogul

I might be mistaken, but I seem to recall that only the humanoid (Salamander) bosses actually dropped gold. The non-human ones (Magmadar, Garr, Geddon, Golemagg) did not. They used to drop lots of essences I believe (eg. fire from geddon, earth from garr), but that stuff is all pretty devalued now.

 

Illundai

Yeah, you're correct. Only the Humanoids + Ragnaros dropped cash.

 

Ecliptics

Im not sure if this has already been mentioned but I haven't seen it yet.

It seems, as expected, Shadow Council Warlocks at Legion Hold no longer drop Fel Armaments. If anyone can prove me wrong on this I'd be ecstatic but I haven't seen one drop here since Monday. Considering I use to get about 1 Armament for every 10 Marks my grinding has taken a significant hit. Spawn rate seems to be the same and they still drop a the same amount of Netherweave, Marks, and Greens so still a great grinding spot.


I'd ask for another spot but it would probably get nurfed in a week if it were on the boards. Im rather surprised it took this spot this long to get the stick.

 

Karoo

If that's true it doesn't make much sense.

Why would they remove armaments from their table instead of nerfing the spawn rate?

 

Zavior

At least I had Fel armaments to drop while grinding there yesterday. It was just after the weekly maintenance.

 

• Chicken

I wouldn't jump to a conclusion too quickly. Last week I was thinking to myself "Hm, what ever happened to all the Arcane Tomes off of these Demon Hunter Supplicants", and then I got more Tomes than usual the next day while farming them.

 

whitemanfromtown

I definitely had several drop last night while I was farming. You just got unlucky.

 

Ecliptics

Ill go ahead and retract my statement. Although I have gone 130 marks for 4 armaments its not enough to say they changed a drop rate. I would however not be surprised if they did because it is a bit overpowered.

 

matt127

First off I would like to say I am a big fan of this thread, and of this Forum in general. Wish I would of found out about it awhile back. Thanks to this forum in particular, I have started leveling my own perosnal JC, Tailor, and DE'er. Now that I have brown-nosed enough, I have two questions. :)

#1 Has anyone had any luck with Elemental Seaforuim Charges? 4 are required for the Engneering mount quest. I was doing quite well with these until recently. I had been seling for about 30g for a stack of 4, with at least 4 or 5 selling per week until I was undercut recently for about 23g. I can't go this low and retain a profit margin. I am hoping this is someone just skilling up, as I don't have the reserves to scare this newcomer out atm.

#2 I often see refernces to "peak server times" and certian days when most of the big guilds on a server raid. While I have a general idea of higher volume on my realm, is there a better resource for finding this information out? Or do I just trust my gut, and send random tells to members of high level guilds asking when they raid?

 

◊ Shaker

/who Black Temple
/who Hyjal
/who Tempest Keep
/who Serpentshrine Cavern

Consistency. It's only a virtue if you're not a screwup.

 

Starfire

The answer to this is simple. Raiders who have killed Illidan have little need for pots anymore. Further, raiders are the core market. Expect price jumps a bit after Sunwell comes out.

 

Rudi-CO

Yes, I can sell Supreme Power for 39g at a slow rate (2-3 a day). The Mountain Silversage is hard to come by and usually around 2g but the Dreamfoil is around 50s each and the Black Lotuses are incredibly inexpensive; stacks of 20 for 50g. So very profitable (especially with Elixir Mastery) but they move slowly.