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Old 12/30/07, 1:44 PM   #781
Pyros
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Originally Posted by vorda View Post
What always worked for me was to watch a movie or so while jumping every 2 minutes. When a GM can actually come and confirm you'r stuck in the event, they always refund a rune.
Oh I see it was GM related, yea I'm not gonna bother waiting 6hours for a GM to show up to replace a darkrune quite frankly.


The problem is when he starts doing all his abilities in a row. Eyes --> immolate --> incarnate. If you just 'react' to what happends then, you will get stuck in the form CD.
Yea that's exactly why I don't AE the eyes, I got stuck quite often in shadow due to stance cooldown while he was incinerating. If I stay in a corner, I only have to pyro 2 eyes, which doesn't take too long, unless I'm getting these stupid bugs and the eyes are not taking any damage from my pyroblasts, which happens often enough. The event is quite buggy, but well I can't really get over the 1k badge of tenacity ^^

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Old 12/30/07, 3:18 PM   #782
Dollar
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I think you must be doing something wrong. I regularly do it without any crystal focus's and only fail if I am not paying attention or it bugs out. Unless you get intensely shitty luck every time (IE: He resist siphon, throws eyes and then immolate/incinerates directly after you go into shadow form, gives you the shadow damage debuff the instant you switch to a form other then fire. It's easy money, the only thing that is infuriating is doing 3 in a row and getting the fucking BOP ring or the nature damage ring every time.

When I found out some of my friends were just destroying their darkrunes I started getting on their accounts and splitting the money with them on whatever the item sells for. If you have friends/guildies who trust you, you can make a fair bit of money without even having to drag yourself through all of the dailies.

"Oh he's a sad little man? He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?"

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Old 12/30/07, 5:53 PM   #783
vorda
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The whole 'eyes --> immo --> incarnate' sequence happends at least once to me usually.

I found that standing inside the transporter is pretty easy aswell, since you often have 0-1 eyes attacking you and his 'beam' spell only moves you a few yards.
(then again, he did reset to 100 once when I got stuck because of his beam once)

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Old 12/30/07, 6:41 PM   #784
Pyros
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Originally Posted by Dollar View Post
I think you must be doing something wrong. I regularly do it without any crystal focus's and only fail if I am not paying attention or it bugs out. Unless you get intensely shitty luck every time (IE: He resist siphon, throws eyes and then immolate/incinerates directly after you go into shadow form, gives you the shadow damage debuff the instant you switch to a form other then fire. It's easy money, the only thing that is infuriating is doing 3 in a row and getting the fucking BOP ring or the nature damage ring every time.

When I found out some of my friends were just destroying their darkrunes I started getting on their accounts and splitting the money with them on whatever the item sells for. If you have friends/guildies who trust you, you can make a fair bit of money without even having to drag yourself through all of the dailies.
My first 2 kills I didn't have to use any chaos strike. The next 2, I died terribly because of shit luck. Since then I consider spending 5-6g to buy 2crystals every 4-5days to do the event is better than losing the rune to shit luck.

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Old 12/30/07, 6:44 PM   #785
Dollar
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Originally Posted by vorda View Post
The whole 'eyes --> immo --> incarnate' sequence happends at least once to me usually.

I found that standing inside the transporter is pretty easy aswell, since you often have 0-1 eyes attacking you and his 'beam' spell only moves you a few yards.
(then again, he did reset to 100 once when I got stuck because of his beam once)
Yeah, I got stuck once and he evaded. I could pull him out of evade and get him to ~60% and he would evade again. And I couldn't reset it (If you run past the line 3 or 4 times in a row it resets). I had to log off and wait for it to reset itself.

"Oh he's a sad little man? He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?"

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Old 12/30/07, 6:58 PM   #786
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A way to reset it yourself is to pull agro from the wandering warlock type mobs.

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Old 12/30/07, 7:40 PM   #787
Tyvi
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Reading all those elaborate strategies on how to avoid his Incinerate makes me wonder if I am the only one here not Ice Blocking it. It is alot less hassle to just outrange it and I think the only time I did Ice Block in over 15 kills was because I was explaining a guildie in /p what I was doing and why so he could learn and I was mid sentence when he started casting it (I really hate to stop typing mid-way :P).

Basically I'd start Shartuul in Shadow Form, Shadow Novaing him or Eyes. After that I'd cast Siphon (not as first spell because the first spell cast usually fails - it doesn't show up as resisted in your combat log, it just vanishes as if you never casted it) and go Fire Form to stack Flame Buffet and do the proper DPS. Every 30 secs I swap to Shadow, Nova him or some Eyes, then Deathblast, reapply Siphon, Nova something again and go back to Fire and repeat the steps above. If he starts casting Incinerate I just run from him and don't get hit by it (and if I do, it's not a big deal since you can easily survive 1 Incinerate).

Failing that, there is always Chaos Strike to instantly get you back to 100% health anyway (get the Focii from the AH if you must).

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Old 12/30/07, 8:17 PM   #788
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Outranging it seems like an interesting strat, don't you get slowed down by mindflay eyes tho when you run in a place you didn't clear? And don't you take heavy damage from all these mindflays you're forced to take? I think I'll try outranging next time, can't be worse than using chaos strike anyway.

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Old 12/30/07, 8:40 PM   #789
Amarilia
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It's not such a big deal to eat the incinerate if you are stuck in shadow form. I just switch to shadow when it's up and I have no debuffs running. The deathblast will heal you about every 30s for 15% so you can easily eat an incinerate sometimes which does about 30-40% of your hp.

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Old 12/30/07, 10:00 PM   #790
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Originally Posted by Liar View Post
Reading all those elaborate strategies on how to avoid his Incinerate makes me wonder if I am the only one here not Ice Blocking it. It is alot less hassle to just outrange it...
Ooh, I didn't know you could do that, I'll definitely try it tonight. A few questions, though, that would save me some experimenting: how far away do you have to get? Can you just start running out of the area, and let him fail to cast the incinerate and then use the magnetic pull on you? Is it possible to run far enough away while he's casting that the event bugs out? I'm going to do the event when I get home from work, and it'd be awesome to not have to spend all my crystal foci, since I've got another darkrune and 4/5ths of a third waiting in the wings. I can kite the eye and the dog like a pro, but man Shartuul just messes me up every time without Chaos Strike to fall back on

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Old 12/31/07, 4:10 PM   #791
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Shartuul isn't so hard as long as you keep up on cleansing yourself of debuffs, and shifting back and forth from Fire to Shadow to keep all your debuffs applied. Make sure you properly Siphon him before you switch back to fire, and then open up with a Shadow Nova, then the Shadow blast or whatever it is that heals you. You want to always END the phase with the Siphon Life, that way its ticking the whole time healing you up, basically negligating his shadow bolt damage.

Of course, you can always get *very* unlucky and have tons of resists in a row, and that's when it's fun to get down to 5% health and work your way back up and eventually kill him!

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Old 12/31/07, 4:47 PM   #792
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Originally Posted by Xaviera View Post
Shartuul isn't so hard as long as you keep up on cleansing yourself of debuffs, and shifting back and forth from Fire to Shadow to keep all your debuffs applied. Make sure you properly Siphon him before you switch back to fire, and then open up with a Shadow Nova, then the Shadow blast or whatever it is that heals you. You want to always END the phase with the Siphon Life, that way its ticking the whole time healing you up, basically negligating his shadow bolt damage.

Of course, you can always get *very* unlucky and have tons of resists in a row, and that's when it's fun to get down to 5% health and work your way back up and eventually kill him!
I don't think that's the issue for most of us who uses chaos strike, it's just that if you switch stances a lot, you'll often get caught in a shitty position. Example would be, you get immolated as soon as you switch to shadow and he follows by incinerate, you're then taking some big damage and immolate is ticking, by the time you switch to fire you probably have the shadow debuff too so it takes 6more seconds to clean everything, and you lose a ton of hp in the process. If switching stances wasn't as limited it wouldn't be an issue to nova/devour the syphon/recast syphon every 30secs, but you only need a shitty luck streak to be forced into using chaos strike anyway, and it might be quite early too, which means if you get another bad luck streak during the fight, you're gonna have to chaos strike again.

If you play it safe with 1 chaos strike, you don't need another since you're never taking any damage from the immolate/shadow debuff, always iceblocking the incinerate, and only take a bit of eye damage for a few seconds.

As I said, my 2 first tries went smoothly enough that I didn't have to use chaos strike, switching stances often and all, but after losing to crappy luck on one try and even crappier luck on the next, I just decided it wasn't worth it. I had like 3syphon resists, got caught on frost aspect timer with incinerate 3times, had to chaos strike twice and still died on the really shitty luck try. Everytime I did something he'd counter it pretty much, random timers sure can look not so random sometimes ^^.

Using one chaos strike per kill doesn't cost much anyway, I usually find one focus every darkrune, and buy another from the AH for 3g or so.

Anyway enough shartuul talk, it's a good way to make money on the side, but it's definitely not a great money maker since it's purely based on luck, and limited to 1try every5days, more if you get lucky, but I doubt you'll get more than 1 kill every4days over 2months. The badge sells for a lot, but the rest isn't that great.

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Old 12/31/07, 6:48 PM   #793
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Another moneymaker if you're a regular AH player, have access to Miner, BS, Disenchanter and your prices are looking something the following:
7-8g/stack of [Fel Iron Ore]
1.6-2g/arcane dust
6-7g/greater planar essence

Buy the ore, melt it to bars and craft - depending on how much you want to gamble
[Fel Iron Chain Coif] - 2-3 dust/2-3 lesser planar
or
[Fel Iron Breastplate] 2-5dust/1-2 greater planar

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Old 01/01/08, 7:29 PM   #794
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I have noticed as being a Alch/Herb going and Farming in the Marsh near the bottom left hand corner is good for Primal Lifes. On my server on a good day they go for about 16G and plus being a herb Ancient Lichen seams to drop out there +BUNCHES of Felweed and TONS of Ragevil [However you spell]. I can make about 4-500G a day or so

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Old 01/01/08, 7:32 PM   #795
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Originally Posted by fire11ball View Post
I have noticed as being a Alch/Herb going and Farming in the Marsh near the bottom left hand corner is good for Primal Lifes. On my server on a good day they go for about 16G and plus being a herb Ancient Lichen seams to drop out there +BUNCHES of Felweed and TONS of Ragevil [However you spell]. I can make about 4-500G a day or so
Your talking about Zanger Marsh? Where are you talking about exactly? Because your not really making any sense.

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