The first chest in Underbog can also yeild some nice profits. It's a 3-pull, but the mobs are ~64 so they're fairly easy to take out as a rogue and I'd imagine it would be the same for a druid. (usually one of the mobs is a sporebat that can be hibernated) It's also very close to the entrance, and spawns in that location every time (since the old location for the alternate spawn point where you used to be able to grab it without killing any mobs was removed), for very quick in-and-out farming.
There's also a very nice supply or [Ancient Lichen], [Sanguine Hibiscus], and a few Adamantite deposits that can all be farmed without having to kill any mobs.
Agreed, I farmed the Underbog chest as a Rogue many times while stealth-farming Sanguine Hibiscus to level Sporregar rep.
However, I wanted to point out that farming the Mana Tombs chests is definitely more profitable for a Rogue (in terms of gold per hour) due to the fact that there are more chests in closer proximity to each other within that instance, and the mobs in MT can be pickpocketed and sapped (the ones in UB cannot as they are not humanoid).
Finaly, chest farming is easily done with a combat build (although I'd assume a typical PVP Hemo build is easier due to having Prep, MOD, Camo, and imp Sap though I've only done it with combat swords) and no problem at all with T4+ gear.
In my experience chest farming is basically equivalent in terms of gold/hour to grinding dailies or farming mobs, but it is a fun change of pace and a way to farm your gold in a Rogue-like manner. As has been said before, if you are in need of enchanting mats (and have access to DE) and/or need gems it is probably the best way to spend your gold farming time as a Rogue.
I'm surprised nobody has noted the excellent mana mote farming to be had Northwest of Area 52 past the Dranei ruins with the u/d pallies near the edge. You can range up and down this area killing everything and getting as good a drop rate as the overfarmed wraiths closer to A52. The mobs are also weaker and every last one of them drops motes of mana. I seldom see farmers there and they are often under lvl 70 and vamoose when I plop down in partial arena gear.
I didn't see a higher drop rate than normal for motes from the elementals (mana wraiths) nor from the other mobs when I went to check on this surprising statement of yours.
I didn't see a higher drop rate than normal for motes from the elementals (mana wraiths) nor from the other mobs when I went to check on this surprising statement of yours.
I believe his point was that they're faster to kill and less camped but have the same drop rate. However, this would probably depend on your server.
I'm guessing this includes the trees in Skettis. If so, it looks like farming them seems even more profitable now.
All of these changes to Fel Lotus will hopefully make them a lot cheaper, they're currently 40-50g on my server and it's pretty ridiculous. I don't really care if Black Lotus becomes scarce again because there is a directly superior flask to all of the Black Lotus ones apart from Petrification.
edit: Sorry, thought this was the patch notes thread. To stay on topic I do expect the prices to fall by 30-50% depending on how much the droprate is increased by.
So it would be prudent to stock up a few stacks or raw Dawnstone/Talasite in preparation of 2.4? Or will the demand for the new gem cuts be so slow that it wouldn't impact the market?
I'm buying khorium at the moment. It had gotten quite cheap but looks at though it'll see some use in the new blacksmithing recipes and since it's rare it can't be easily farmed.
All of these changes to Fel Lotus will hopefully make them a lot cheaper, they're currently 40-50g on my server and it's pretty ridiculous. I don't really care if Black Lotus becomes scarce again because there is a directly superior flask to all of the Black Lotus ones apart from Petrification.
As a healadin, I'd much rather use Distilled Wisdom over Mighty Restoration.
Although I suppose anything that increases the supply of Fel Lotuses (and of course, pushes the price down) is a good thing, although a hike in Black Lotus price is an obvious side-effect of the change.
I'm buying khorium at the moment. It had gotten quite cheap but looks at though it'll see some use in the new blacksmithing recipes and since it's rare it can't be easily farmed.
I don't see these being in large demand as they require Sunmote's, which I'm guessing won't be easy to come by any time soon.
Plus from personal experience I can tell You that every miner has loads of Khorium banked (I got 9 stacks at the moment, there's almost 500 Khorium in my guild bank), everyone is going to unleash an insane amount of it to the market once it becomes wanted.
I've grabbed a stack of cheap Talasite just in case, but I suspect it won't see a price spike post 2.4. Everyone and their dog has Talasite stockpiled. Besides, a spell haste/stam gem doesn't sound hugely interesting to me.
Dawnstones and Noble Topaz sound much more interesting, and since Noble Topaz already have a lot of good uses, I could see a pretty severe shortage of them when 2.4 hits. I'm buying them as I see them, but since 2.4 is a long way off, I'm reluctant to tie up much capital on a flyer.
The BoE items require Sunmotes, which limit the number of items which will be crafted. The BoP items probably come from a drop inside the raid instance, which also limits the number which will be crafted. I doubt any of the mats will see much of a price spike.
A lot of alts, rerolls, PVE raiders, and PVPers who want to try a different spec may well buy the full set outright as a "starter kit" for Arenas. (I know I'll be buying it the day 2.4 goes live.) If they do, I'd expect a very faint repeat of the S3 launch - a bunch of people will suddenly realize they need to gem and enchant the set, and look to the AH for stam and resil gems, as well as enchanting mats.
I've grabbed a stack of cheap Talasite just in case, but I suspect it won't see a price spike post 2.4. Everyone and their dog has Talasite stockpiled. Besides, a spell haste/stam gem doesn't sound hugely interesting to me.
Dawnstones and Noble Topaz sound much more interesting, and since Noble Topaz already have a lot of good uses, I could see a pretty severe shortage of them when 2.4 hits. I'm buying them as I see them, but since 2.4 is a long way off, I'm reluctant to tie up much capital on a flyer.
The BoE items require Sunmotes, which limit the number of items which will be crafted. The BoP items probably come from a drop inside the raid instance, which also limits the number which will be crafted. I doubt any of the mats will see much of a price spike.
A lot of alts, rerolls, PVE raiders, and PVPers who want to try a different spec may well buy the full set outright as a "starter kit" for Arenas. (I know I'll be buying it the day 2.4 goes live.) If they do, I'd expect a very faint repeat of the S3 launch - a bunch of people will suddenly realize they need to gem and enchant the set, and look to the AH for stam and resil gems, as well as enchanting mats.
And for these reasons I'm stockpiling again. As a JC with an enchanter alt I think i'll be spending however long until 2.4 stockpiling raw gems and enchanting mats with the single specific goal of barking my wares the day 2.4 goes live. I'm still interested to know what rep, if any, is needed to get the new jc patterns. My guild is a way from being ready to do the new 25 man, but I'll be farming mats for the new crafted epics as well. There's a few crafters in my friends list who are more than ready to get the new patterns and whatnot and might appreciate not having to spend 4 hours farming shadows in nagrand. I'm even considering getting all 3 sets for my shaman. The gold's not really relevant since I have good grounding in several markets. And I'd actually like to have a non-fail elemental set for experimentation.
Of course, I spend all my farming time in legion hold and buy whatever's underpriced, rather than actually farm a specific thing.
EDIT: Has anyone considered the possibility that prices may drop with the increase to 25 dailies? It just occurred to me that people's income from these quests will increase, leading to more disposable income. Could this effect the AH?
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EDIT: Has anyone considered the possibility that prices may drop with the increase to 25 dailies? It just occurred to me that people's income from these quests will increase, leading to more disposable income. Could this effect the AH?
Personally I think the massive influx of BOE greens is going to depress enchanting mats even more. Unless S4 comes out I don't think the new gear enchants will make up for it.
EDIT: Has anyone considered the possibility that prices may drop with the increase to 25 dailies? It just occurred to me that people's income from these quests will increase, leading to more disposable income. Could this effect the AH?
If anything, I would expect this to raise prices, all else being equal. There will be more disposable cash for everyone that they would feel okay spending more.
Personally I think the massive influx of BOE greens is going to depress enchanting mats even more. Unless S4 comes out I don't think the new gear enchants will make up for it.
Where are these new greens going to come from? Do you just mean that the interest in the new instance will lead to more drops simply from people killing more mobs as a result of running the 5 man?
Where are these new greens going to come from? Do you just mean that the interest in the new instance will lead to more drops simply from people killing more mobs as a result of running the 5 man?
SSO Care Packages obtained from some of the new dailies (like the AQ war effort rewards), containing greens.
Where are these new greens going to come from? Do you just mean that the interest in the new instance will lead to more drops simply from people killing more mobs as a result of running the 5 man?
The dailies reward a care package which drops a green most of the time.
As a general rule, an expansion in the money supply will lead to inflation. (In the real economy, it has to - "inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon", and all that. The WoW economy is very different, but...not that different.)
Anyhow, seems like there's two forces coming into play:
New dailies causing an influx of gold. Ceteris paribus, this will cause a decrease in the value of gold, and thus an increase in the value of items.
New 5-man, 25-man, rep, vendors, etc. causing an influx of gear. Ceteris paribus, this will cause an increase in the demand for enchanting mats and gems.
Given the above, and given the number of things primals are used for, including a LOT of new crafting recipes, I'm thinking of stockpiling a few stacks of water/fire/air/life.
I'm not sure what I expect to happen to gem prices. Apparently epic gems drop in SW25, and the removal of attunements mean a lot more people will be in MH farming them. On the other hand, new gear drops in SW25, and the removal of attunements means a lot more people will be in MH getting gear. All that gear will need gems...so... Not sure there'll be much of a change in epic gems one way or the other?
02/08/08, 3:50 PM
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