- Go back in time.
- Buy primal shadows, primal lifes and fel lotus at 1-2g each.
- Come back to the present, profit.
*wishes at what could have been*
I actually bought a ton of shadow pearls when people were selling them on the AH for fifty silver or less back when they had no use. Resold them all for around 20+ gold each.
A mage in our guild had a interesting trick for making gold, it is getting fixed in 2.3 however. Our raiding schedule usually consisted of doing 4 bosses in Hyjal and then 3 in BT in one night, leaving Teron up. He would then farm the peons in that area for epic gems, patterns, Hearts etc... I went a few times to observe and in case a BoP epic dropped that I could use (the only one he ever got doing this was the healing cloak, and I wasn't there). He made a small fortune off this and wasn't the only one doing it the past few weeks with 5 guilds in BT. Now that these peons can no longer drop epic gems I'd expect to see a price shift in these on the AH for those who are into such things (currently ~300g on Mannoroth).
I've found that if you're an herbalist and can kill them quickly, farming Talonsworn Forest-Ragers in Skettis is probably the best gold per hour in the game.
On my Shadowpriest, I can drop one in under 30s. There are 4 up at one time, and they have a 5m respawn timer. You can do a dozen laps in an hour if nobody else is farming them, roughly 50 kills per hour. Each one drops 2-5 motes of life and 4-8 herbs (Dreaming Glory, Felweed, Terocone, Ancient Lichen, or Mana Thistle) and also have a chance to drop Black Lotus.
So, on average, at 3.5 motes and 6 herbs per kill, you're looking at about 10g per kill, which at 50 kills per hour yields over 500g per hour, not even taking Black Lotus into account. If you have access to an alchemist with the proper spec, you can turn that into quite a bit more.
One thing that's particularly nice about these mobs is that you very rarely find people farming them. Only a few class/spec combos can do it efficiently (Warlocks, Shadowpriests, and Frost Mages), and those class/spec combos tend to almost always be tailors, and usually pick up enchanting as their other profession. I've wanted to drop herbalism for enchanting myself, but the sole reason I haven't is that I can't give up this prime farming technique!
I'm a Jew who works in accounting IRL, so I love this kind of thing!
I am a herbalist, and I've found this way is the easiest and fastest way to farm herbs for myself, and to sell along with a good drop rate on primal life.
It only takes around 25-30 seconds to solo them in cat form.
Also, may I suggest farming shadowfang for twinks? depending on your server, you could make decent money. I ran a friend of mine on his alt, and it dropped. Ended up selling it to a twink for 450g.
There's a warlock in my guild who used to be affliction. He would charge around Kirin Var village in Netherstorm dotting the hell out of everything. If he had a healer tagging along, he did not need to stop EVER. Got like 15 primal mana in an hour doing it once, w/ like 50g worth of those elemental fragments. :x
I do this already on my warlock. He is my farming alt with 1200 spelldmg. All you have to do is spec some variation of sl/sl (I prefer 30/31) and have a felhunter out. CoA, siphon, Corr, and move on to the next target. Felhunter on defensive to devour the spellreflect shields (and heal himself). With soullink, decent spell damage gear, and improved fel armor your hp/mana will never really go down. You also take next to nothing damage.
This works just as well in elemental plateau because air/fire elementals have devourable shields as well. If I'm there by myself I can do 10 primals minimum per hour. With someone to toss me a HoT and do the looting 20/hr is easily the average.
Demon hunter supplicants: at Ruins of Karabor (BT terraces) they are grouped in a big chunk. I equip my special gear and pull all of them at once. My gear is a sporeggar shield with spike, darkmoon card: vengeance. The gear also has a combined of 76% miss+dodge+parry+block, which means all their attacks are blocked or avoided. (they dual wield, having 24% miss rate.) I'm physically immune from the front. I got to repair my shield after every 3rd pull or so. Plenty of cloth and scryer rep items drop, also 10-20s per mob, often getting greens. This can be done semi-afk aswell, they take a bit of time to repop and after the pull you can alt-tab out aswell, however I prefer to spam cleave/WW/SS/VR so they die faster. Also, targetting another one when your current target drops below 20% and pops evasion helps your dps. At the end you can chain-victory rush them. Fun stuff, people will pass by and drop jaws pretty often. Screenshot >>
I'm curious what other prot warriors do for a living
Since I started farming there I stopped doing any dailies. I hoard the signets for my next alt (if I can bothered to level him up), sell the tomes und DE the greens. The cloth I normally vendor as bandages though I helped a friend leveling his tailoring up. If I'm not semi afk (cooking or watching TV) I also try to clear the upper terrace where you can pull together another bunch of 12-15 mobs. Accidently I'm using the same setup plus the SH trinket for self heal if I get to sloppy on the pull. Using a slow high dps weapon also ups your killing speed. Its good money and I got some blues as well as a blessing card from it already.
Its also funny when mages try to help you, drawing aggro from almost all mobs and dropping then instantly
Sometimes I also farm ores in Nagrand but in general its only worth doing it very late (about 2-4 o' clock server time).
Since I started farming there I stopped doing any dailies. I hoard the signets for my next alt (if I can bothered to level him up), sell the tomes und DE the greens. The cloth I normally vendor as bandages though I helped a friend leveling his tailoring up. If I'm not semi afk (cooking or watching TV) I also try to clear the upper terrace where you can pull together another bunch of 12-15 mobs. Accidently I'm using the same setup plus the SH trinket for self heal if I get to sloppy on the pull. Using a slow high dps weapon also ups your killing speed. Its good money and I got some blues as well as a blessing card from it already.
Its also funny when mages try to help you, drawing aggro from almost all mobs and dropping then instantly
Sometimes I also farm ores in Nagrand but in general its only worth doing it very late (about 2-4 o' clock server time).
I need to try this, wonder how it'll go with full tank gear, bear form.
The magical damage reduction to zero comes from blocking which is why the feral is probably the tank that cannot do it as easily as you probably will suffer death from thousands of papercuts. Protection paladins on the other burn through those mobs like a hot knife through butter.
Back before I rerolled, I took my 41/20/0 paladin with roughly ~600 spell damage to the Heap, south of Area 52. Just mount up and run around all the Etherium humanoids there and group them up into packs of 8 or 10, put on ret aura and spam consecration while healing yourself up. Rinse and repeat.
It would annoy anyone else who was questing in the zone, but I used the technique to get cloth, a few BOE blues, etherium prison keys (which resulted in more blues) and Zaxxis insignas. It wasn't the most efficient way to make money, but it got me consortium rep and gave me something to do while I wasn't grinding an overfarmed plateau.
The magical damage reduction to zero comes from blocking which is why the feral is probably the tank that cannot do it as easily as you probably will suffer death from thousands of papercuts. Protection paladins on the other burn through those mobs like a hot knife through butter.
Yeah but swipe spam = 4% of health heal every 6 seconds. Stack enough stam and you'll never die.
Add in the outlands 'pvp trinket' obtainable in Zangarmarsh and/or the Darkmoon Card Heroism (or the Spyglass) and you should be good to go. Will have to give it a shot.
What zones do you miners usually mine in? I've had moderate success mining in nagrand but as my character is a Holy Paladin (despite having a +spell gearset that puts me close to 900) I have issues getting cave nodes in a timely fashion, plus there's usually a few other alliance out there mining as well.
I do have an epic flyer but I'm not really seeing amazing returns.
Helps being able to stealth/sap or mind soothe/fear =(
I usually find prime mining to be Nagrand or Netherstorm... but that's because I know almost no one -ever- goes into the Netherstorm caves, and those caves usually have 2-4 nodes and quite often one of the caves has Khorium.
I actually bought a ton of shadow pearls when people were selling them on the AH for fifty silver or less back when they had no use. Resold them all for around 20+ gold each.
Yea, ditto, I nabbed hordes of jaggal pearls too (enough to fill the big jewel bag with stacks.) It paid off huge when the Necklace of the Deep pattern was introduced.
I'm loathe to say this for fear of it ruining my scheme on Eu vashj but:
Next patch (wed for us) I'm doing the same with Starwood. Many peoples first instinct when makign the 225 flying machine will be to type Starwood into the auction house. They'll see my nice bundles of 8 there for 20g a piece and buy them. A little research could find that I bought it from a vendor for less than 4 gold a stack and am making a 500%+ profit from each sale. This is playing on peoples laziness, both in not researching the material and not bothering to find who sells it. The beauty of this particular hustle is that I can buy as much as I need right there in Org so whilst playing the AH normally, every time I sell starwood I can just run grab some more. I'm not going to get egg in my face if I don't sell any at all, because my loss will only be like the 9g I paid for a stack of 20.
Haha. I'm doing the exact same thing today, but with the seaforium explosive charges.
I whipped up a batch of them for virtually nothing and am going to be selling them in 4's for about 30g. The mats would cost me maybe 5.
Originally Posted by Relwin
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Killing all of the Demon Hunter Supplicants at one time is possible for a feral druid in bear form. I did it yesterday somewhat by accident and it wasn't a problem at all. Just had to switch out once to barkskin -> warstomp -> regrowth and then went back into bear as I had my dps gear on. Popped my trinkets for swipe spam and they all fell pretty easily. I cleared that area and the 2nd level yesterday for about 90 minutes and ended up with 4tomes, 40 signets, 200 cloth and assorted greens/blues. Pretty nice haul for such a minimal time investment.
I like the warlocks in Legion hold. There are 3 pylons in a row each with 4 warlocks channeling a green beam. They drop armanents and marks of sargeras plus the usual netherweave, greens, etc.
Farming them on a rogue is a sight to behold too because essentially all the damage they do is with shadowbolt, so just either kick that or use CloS at the very last second and you will have zero downtime. They're only level 67 too so you should be able to kill them in 2-4 seconds, and the faster they're killed, the faster they will spawn. I find it ideal to have 2-3 people there, they spawn so fast at that point you can basically just focus on one pylon. Often times one will spawn at the same spot as the one you're killing before it's even down.
There's a 70 elite demon that patrols around there but it's easy to solo. Nice because it keeps noobs away, it's trivial to avoid once you're used to the area. That's been my default spot to farm since I grinded to exalted with aldor there a few weeks into the expansion.
If you've ever written a sales plan or projected speculative investments you should have an easy time putting together a gold making system and if you haven't there's a wealth of information available on the internet on how to start up, maintain and finish off a money plan. A few general things to note and think about when looking at how you're going to make gold are:
1. Remember the 3 P's. Professions, PvE and PvP. ALL resources flow towards one or more of those 3 things at any given time. Set down on paper a tiered level system of items based on use/appeal to all 3 and on length of time the items will hold value. Thus the most valuable AH items are going to be those that appeal to all 3 P's and that have a very long period of time in which they will be useful. You're not trying to avoid FotM items at all, you can make alot of gold off those very things but you want consistent, stable gold flow while making room for spikes both up and down from FotM items.
2. Recognize shelf life. Every item has a turnover rate and it also has a finite shelf life until it no longer sells. Appraising the items you wish to sell and figuring out how long you will be able to sell them for and make a good profit from them is key. Prime example of these are most reputation turnin items, as a new rep rotates into the game or new rewards or recipes being added to existing reps these items become real hot and sell very fast until everyone has their fill and then they die off. The goal is to have established a consistent gold flow with the things you are currently selling AND be making preparations to cycle in new items once what you're selling is glutted out by other people moving in on your turf or interest in the items is gone.
Quick note, competition is good for the buyer not the businessman. If you're going to treat your AH actions like a business you need to aim for exclusivity as much as you can. When a particular item becomes hot and people start trying to get a piece of the action, pull away and look for the things in demand that aren't getting as much play and move those items in. This also works with professions, a crafter who has a complete recipe list has a huge advantage over one who does not. When you can tell people "I have everything, whenever you need something you can come to me and I can take care of you" that is a powerful argument in your favor for repeat business.
3. Always think ahead and never get comfortable to the point of laziness. Alot of people do the binge/purge thing with gold, they farm it until they have a good amount then relax and do nothing and it just whittles away until they have to scramble last minute to find some gold for that item they HAVE to have. Even if business is slow, still do business. Gold begets gold, that type of thing.
Really though, gold is easy to get if you are flexible, put in the time and/or money to establish yourself and map out a path towards it that takes into account your server economy and has enough wiggle room to allow for the ups and downs that come with the territory.
"A man is the less likely to become great the more he is dominated by reason. Few can achieve greatness-and none in art-unless they are dominated by illusion."
You might want to try the standard grinding of the non-supplicants (the ramp leading up to the terrace, and the outside rim) as has been suggested. I hate farming, but I make myself do it, as 160g/hour seems to be the norm for me (I actually think it's higher, but I don't want to lead you astray).
So you can adjust for server pricing difference, tomes go for 10g on my server, signets for 75silver, and netherweave stacks for 3g. So, for me, what you have in ninety minutes is:
4 x 10
40 x .75
10 x 3
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100g + 15g in cash drops and say 20g in items.
So, in 90 minutes with my server pricing, that's 135/90 = 1.5gold per minute.
With my standard rate single pulling, I'm getting about 160/60 = 2.67gold per minute (also including cash, green/grey drops, and repair costs).
This isn't to brag at all, it's just that this thread has been helpful to me (I bought all the ragveil I could find on the AH last night for 4g / stack!), and I don't mind confirming what some other people have already posted here.
This does, of course, assume you have decent melee dps gear, but I'm guessing you do given you're a feral.
Yeah, I didn't start out by planning to do the Supplicants all at once. Basically I would start out on the road and work my way around to the top of the temple as you are suggesting. Then jump back down and do it again. One of those times that I jumped down I ended up aggroing 2 packs of Supplicants and then it just snowballed from there. Since that was brought up I just wanted to point out that a decently geared feral druid can tank them all just like a warrior. If I had had my tank gear on it probably would have been pretty trivial.
So whenever I'm protspecced I can make 150g from Soloing Stratholme live side + undead side and I can make another 100g from selling the Righteous orbs since I'm pretty much the only person alliance side that ever puts them on the AH.
Soloing stratholme is fairly easy too, 2p T4 and Figurine of the Collosus allow me to pull large packs of mobs without dying. Slap on a felsteel shield spike on a spare shield and you can pull entire packs, throw in a cleave/thunderclap and your slowly grinding down the mobs.
The only downsides to it are the mobs just before Cannon Master (hand of justice, there's one pull with 3 paladins while you resist most of the stuns there's always one that gets through just as spellreflect fades >.<). The only boss I wasn't able to solo in the whole of strat was Baron Rivendare, I sell all the BoP blues I get from the bosses I kill, and get everything else DE'd by a guildy, if I was an enchanter myself I could possibly make a little bit more from DE'ing the blues aswell.
Takes me anywhere from 1 hour to 1 and a half hour (depending on how intrested I am in getting it done quick). If I go for just the orbs I can be done in about 30 minutes by skipping alot of trash.
I also do this. If you are level 70 you can walk around the trash in the first part of live side without stealth (I've done it on my 70 warrior). Being well geared obviously helps, but the big key to making this viable (imo) is being an enchanter.
Best run I have had 6 orbs and 8 blues drop. Worst run was 2 orbs and 4 blues. The blues de into large brilliants which sell for upwards of 15-20g each. The orbs sell regularly for 35-40g so a 1 hour run (farming all the bosses including Cannon Master) will net 100-200g depending on the orb drops.
Never ran into trouble other than during the pull really, though I only grabbed half the platform.
Main thing I'm worrying about is that level 70 elite patrolling. How are you grabbing the lot without taking a goodly dose of damage in between (You can't swipe at mobs behind you...) as well as avoiding that elite ?
The demon hunter that patrols does so very slowly and I believe has an aggro radius smaller than the normal mobs, at least that's what I noticed. Like I said I did it by accident but if I wanted to pull it on purpose I don't see it being much of a problem. The elite demon hunter paths mainly through the middle of the area and then down the narrorw pathway by the stairs. Wait until he paths out of the area, stealth to about the middle of the area, pop out of cat and then into bear. Especially now with the 2.3 change to shifting you should take no damage until you are in bear form. Then move backwards to either wall and put yourself up against it. Demo roar, then swipe spam them down while popping trinkets. Should be pretty simple, was for me last night at least.
Back before I rerolled, I took my 41/20/0 paladin with roughly ~600 spell damage to the Heap, south of Area 52. Just mount up and run around all the Etherium humanoids there and group them up into packs of 8 or 10, put on ret aura and spam consecration while healing yourself up. Rinse and repeat.
It would annoy anyone else who was questing in the zone, but I used the technique to get cloth, a few BOE blues, etherium prison keys (which resulted in more blues) and Zaxxis insignas. It wasn't the most efficient way to make money, but it got me consortium rep and gave me something to do while I wasn't grinding an overfarmed plateau.
With the new spell damage changes in 2.3 this should be even easier to do. I actually need consortium rep for jewelcrafting.
With the new spell damage changes in 2.3 this should be even easier to do. I actually need consortium rep for jewelcrafting.
I recently grinded exalted on these. Be sure to have done the Ethereum Key chain before you start grinding as each key is at least 1 green and possibly a BoP blue. (unless you get one of those npcs which just give rep for a faction you'r probably exalted for anyway.. sigh)
I tried it a while as holy with ~15k armor and 750+ dmg and it didnt come close to speccing prot for 2 days and almost chain pulling them (figurine of the colossus is required for not having to eat/drink in between pulls though). Maybe my +dmg gear just isnt good enough for doing this as holy, but I can highly recommend going prot.
Add in the outlands 'pvp trinket' obtainable in Zangarmarsh and/or the Darkmoon Card Heroism (or the Spyglass) and you should be good to go. Will have to give it a shot.
11/13/07, 8:11 AM
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