nataku

In short, no, which is why Illusion dust is so pricey. All the tailoring options have something which makes d/e'ing them difficult to profit from. I believe the only 'reasonable' item that can be crafted and d/e'd for illusion dust/greater/lbs is [Wicked Leather Headband].

 

dblaikie

If you're pricing the large potions at 1.47g, you might as well drink them at that price rather than selling them.

If you have some people (or even multiboxing some alts) including an enchanter with a stash of shards, there is more valuable shard -> gold conversion.

Take 35 shards & use a monument or crystal prison in a forge camp. Kill the monster & have your enchanter loot the apexis crystal. Crystal + 50 shards can be used to purchase a level 70 blue item (any of them will do) to disenchant into LPS.

That's 85 shards => 25g (roughly), or 17.6 silver per apexis shard. Note that this works for any number of people who aren't enchanters, so long as you can find an enchanter with the 50 shards - a non-enchanter can convert 35 shards per summoned boss kill (using their shards to summon, while the enchanter loots the resulting Apexis Crystal) while the enchanter converts the other 50.

The time cost involved here is higher, of course - so it may or may not be really worth it for the extra effort. (you're making in the order of 23g extra profit (for extra work) for each conversion)

 

Fringe_Worthy

I don't know if it was a bug, or not...

But have you ever done the Collector Event sucessfully? Sure it takes 20 people.

On the other hand, once you're done, you can buy accellerator triggers for 35 shards. The accelerator is 50 yards away from the vendor. Each use gives you a Harbringer. Each 5-man harbringer drops a crystal (Not sure how many you need for Baishi himself. I know 15 noobs is more then enough for him. Likely less). 3 crystals at the same vendor gives you a geode. A geode spawns a L70 BOP Blue. That's a LPS.

The interesting thing... My shards can summon, your Enchanter can loot the crystals.

At the time, the accelerator use was instant.

This may be the most appropriate use of several people with 1000+ shards.

I did it it once, the vendor sticking around > 1hour.

 

Marek

You only get 105 shards -> 25g as opposed to dblaikie's method (though being able to only use your own shards for conversion is great).

Personally if I would do the event I would just complete the first phase and buy the flasks from the first vendor. It only takes 2-3 people to get this far and the flasks should be worth more than beast or sorcerer which can be soloed.

 

Averix

Personally I find this one of the best places to farm, simply because the mobs constantly drop greens to disenchant while grinding primals. Ive recently made 3 x Large Prismatic Shards, 65 x Arcane Dust, 17 x Greater Planar Essences from only 30 greens (maby I was a bit lucky to )

 

dinesh

Fair points. I should also mention that my pipedream-plan includes per player throttling and automated ignoring rules, as well, but as you say given enough will it certainly could be cracked.

 

ECZO

I was thinking about 4 death knights trasmuting stuff after someone posted it, I know this is a thing about future but i have a question regarding alchemy as it is now..

are trasmute cd shared if the same toon is an Alchemist/alchemist?

 

tedv

You can't learn the same profession twice. You could have tailor/alchemist, as the cloth and gem transmutes do not share timers.

 

ECZO

thank you for the answer!

Imho 2.4 will increase the amount of cash running around due to the dailies, it's time to stock any material because prices will go up due to a bigger amount of money in the hands of the "zomg100goldperhourishugemoney" people, they won't be afraid to spend more for the same

I know many people which are totally reliant on dailies for their needs and they'll go crazy with 25 dailies to do

Regarding dailies, am I the only thinking that aren't that good for money? sure they give steady cash but in tbc if you earn 100g in 1 hour spent farming... you're doing something wrong with your spec or farming spot


sorry for being like a captain obvious

 

Fringe_Worthy

Well, the other difference is that the monuments / prisons on a respawn timer? While the Harbringers can be summoned again 3s after killing the previous one. (Assuming the previous summoner runs off for 20seconds and buys a replacement unique accelarator module while the next mob is summoned) Though, actually, you could combine them then. Just do Harbringers for fast crystals, enchanter loots, enchanter buys Crystal + 50 shards item to DE. But ya, if you're just going for <5 summons, then the apex crystals + 4 prisons are fine.

But if you have 1000 crystals to dump?

 

Alk

I've been gathering information about the best methods of gaining substancial ammounts of money quickly in TBC. In the last weeks I've compiled the whole thing and I must admit that when you look at the raw data, dailies come in way behind other means of harvesting gold.

For now the most profitable ways are related to the AH but requires a substancial ammount of knowledge, analyses and predictions. But farming is very close behind.

Some of the most profitable farming areas have excellent g/hr ratios. The limiting factor is that at some point (after days of farming there) you will see a diminishing return in profit because you cannot liquidate as fast as you are farming and stacking theses goods in huge quantities can be very risky.

So in order to truly maximize profit, one needs several farming points in order to vary his goods. After looking at several possibilities, I've found a zone that allows you to do so and did the test.

Result after 10 hours (2 hrs a night, 5 days a week, medium pop server)

Net gain of 3258g.
And an overstock that didn't sell during that weekend. With an estimated value of 520g.

Hence, in my book; intelligent farming bring much more than dailies and requires no capital investments (or Risks) unlike AH trade flipping.

 

savernon

Seeing as you needed to do about 15 dailies an hour to make it equal to about 200g per hour farming, it's pretty obvious that farming a decent spot is much better. However your post doesn't really offer anything useful. No spots, no zones, no items that you grind, nothing.

On a related note about dailies, while they aren't the most optimal way to make gold, they still can be useful depending on how you fit them in. I would always do the terrokar bombing daily and fish up a couple stacks of furious crawdads / golden darters as the highland mixed pools almost always seem to be up, regardless of server time. The daily cooking one is usually useful too, because it can either be combined with:

Terrokar bombing daily / highland mixed pools fishing - Giant Kaliri Wing
Halaa disenchantable throwing stars / pure water pools / Disrupting the dark portal daily - Spiritual Soup
Spellcloth creation / Consortium Mote / Adamantite Frame vendor - Manalicious
Blades edge dailies - Demon Broiled Suprise

Just because the dailies aren't the optimal gold / hour method doesn't mean they can't be useful.

 

• alcaras

And this zone is...

 

Beliandra

One thing to consider is that the optimal moneymaking technique for a rogue in an Illidan-farming guild, dripping in Tier 6, such as yourself, is not necessarily going to be the optimal moneymaking technique for everyone. Obviously you're up there on the upper bound of what's possible via farming.

AH trade flipping and smart buying/disenchanting got my reroll on a new server his epic land mount the instant he dinged 60, with a warchest of 1000g to spare. It surely took longer than the 5 hours you farmed that much money in, but not having access to a powerful main on that server it was the only option.

Another thing to consider is that this forum is not really about saying "ha ha look at me I made nearly 400g an hour farming a mysterious zone which I'm not going to name because I'm smart and you're not." It's more about sharing information, even though a number of people in this thread have felt the pain of their once-exclusive opportunities becoming public knowledge.

 

royaljester

Hence, I don't share some of my techniques, sorry...

I'm assuming (as a rogue myself) that he is probably farming either Bash'ir's Landing, Legion hold, BT Blood Elves or possibly Mana-Tombs, although he did say "zone" instead of "place" or "instance".

I'm still having trouble liquidating my enchanting mats from JC'ing and DE'ing. I'm up to 60 LPS + 15 or so on the AH at reasonable to low prices. And, like I said previously, I make more than I sell, on average, per day...sigh. Any Ideas?

 

• Dinian

There will be a glut of LPS on the market once the Void Crystal => LPS shatter goes live right?

 

savernon

It's a one day cooldown, with either honored or revered rep with SSO being required, so its not like tons of shards will hit the market all of the sudden.

Edit: And to the rogue above me with extra enchanting mats, you could always try hawking enchants with your mats, rather than their mats. Some people are lazy enough to wholesale buy an enchant if it means they don't have to go to the AH and look for the cheapest.

 

Alk

Alright, I feel I made a mistake in my post up there, I've received a bunch of private messages asking me to spill it out. You all have to realize that some of us use that kind of information to round up our months ends. :P
My rogue has access to t6 gear so be aware that the killing rate will vary from person to person.
I won't give you my full route, but I'll give you a part of it.. check it out:

Theres an even more profitable G/Hr spot in that zone that I use quite often. But in reality some ressources are simply useless to "stack" like crazy. For example, Shadow Council Warlocks are in reality more profitable than the Dragonhawks simply because I can sell or trade the Marks/Fel armaments almost as fast as I farm it... Also, it becomes much more interesting when you find someone who wishes to trade them for Tomes and Signets at equal quantities. =D

 

Kenera

With the warlocks, it doesn't matter if 2 people are there; it really just makes that spot even more profitable for everyone. The best times I've had there were when there were 3 people up there and each person just took a pillar and farmed to their hearts content.

Another spot to look at if the warlocks are overfarmed is Twighlight Ridge in Nagrand; I've been doing those for the netherwing dailies the last few nights and have gotten a mark off of almost every kill, and 1 fel armament per 20 kills. Just avoid the patrolling elites : )

I walk through walls.

 

Dollar

Has anybody had any luck with BT trash farming? We haven't killed Teron yet so what me and a resto druid guildie (and often others as well) have been doing is killing the first pull on the way to Teron with two reavers and two champions over and over again. He pulls them and runs out to supremus's room and once he is out there he can go into travel form and just run around the catapults forever. Then I and whoever else is there pulls off one of the reavers, kites it around and kills it, we repeat with the other reaver. Then we all run up on this one wooden part of the broken catapult (the one on the left side as your coming from Najentus's area) and stand there for 30ish seconds and all the mobs reset. You can repeat this all day long if you like.

"Oh he's a sad little man? He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?"

 

Starfire

Pretty sure they dropped the nerf rates on stuff from Teron trash, didn't they? I know for certain grunts were. Anyways, what are you farming for? Gems? I don't think it's terribly worth it. WoWDB seems to say there is a 2% drop there. Now lets assume its 2% per a gem. So I guess 12% total chance of a gem?

From what I understand you are killing 4 mobs every 30 minutes (soft reset?). Dragonblight AH is selling those gems from 75g - 400g. So you should average 1 gem every 1.5 hours. But green gems are going to sell for like 75g. I am not to sure on the values of everything, but I know oranges seem to go for 400g. This doesn't seem to productive.

 

Daenerys

It's pretty clear from his post that he is evade-bugging them to reset, not using 30 min resets.

I'd like to know what the g/hr rate is doing that, though...

 

Dollar

You didn't really read past the first sentence of my post did you? I said that we were pulling the first pull on the way to Teron, the two Reaver's and Champions. When you reset them they evade and the entire pack resets. It seems like we get decent amounts of drops, at least something every couple of pulls.

"Oh he's a sad little man? He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?"

 

Amaiya

Regarding the market for LPS after 2.4, taking into consideration on one hand the influx of new equipment from the new instances and badge rewards, and on the other hand the cooldown and reputation requirement for Void Shatter, I am inclined to believe that the LPS will have a (slightly) higher price than until now, at least for the first week or two.

 

Eledorian

I'm already getting bigger returns out of LPS then I usually would, I expect it's the amount of people planning on new gear when 2.4 hits. I noticed this last time around too that when the word goes around that a new content patch will hit relatively soon people start looking at the loot that they want (and with the badges loot the amount of people anticipating new loot is larger then in vanilla) and they also start planning on enchants, and pre-stocking on materials to instantly get their new loot enchanted.

Edit: With the increasing of the mats on sunwell patterns are people stockpiling up on certain mats to unload them on the AH when 2.4 hits?