Has anyone noticed a nerfed droprate on BT trash for gems? I spent the better part of this morning kite-farming Gorefiend trash (Shadowmoon Reaver) and in 10-12 kills not a single gem, heart, or mark dropped. It is statistically possible for this to happen, but highly improbable. Has anyone had any luck since 2.4?

Onyxia deep breaths more too.

After doing the dailies for a couple days, I can't help but feel like inflation is going to hit pretty hard. Granted, I've done a lot of dailies (between 10 and 15 a day) but I've made around 800g in less than a week - and this is just from playing before work and in the evening a little.

I'm not talking about Nethers and Vortexes, but for endgame items in general - sure, there are people who don't do dailies, but don't you think that enough people are doing them that there's going to be a fairly significant influx of money?

It would be expected. Really that doesn't bother me. I saw first hand the everquest gold dup hit the market. Much more significant problem. Not only large influx of money and huge amount of instant inflation, but high end items got bought up in huge quantities, then those items were destroyed when SoE found out about the dupe and hit the BAN on those people. (A fair amount of these items no longer dropped, so the ban, increased the rarity of the items)

Nothing has compared to that situation since, I keep worrying it's only a matter of time before wow gets hit with something like this.

I've noticed mat prices are still quite high on my server. Im wondering if people are just hoarding for the release of the badge vendor or what, but making money in the meantime via the AH is rather hard. Its probably best to be farming at the moment to drop stuff for when the badge vendor hits....though if everyone has this idea it probably won't work so well.

If your on a PvE server and have a decently geared DPS character with herbalism you can make a ton of gold farming primal fire and nightmare vine at the Throne of KJ. Theres always enough people there that the fire elementals spawn pretty much as fast as you can kill them, I just hang out on the right side away from the quest stuff killing the never ending spawn of elementals and grabbing the nightmare vine in the bottom right whenever it comes up. Fires sell for about 25g on my server, and the market for nightmare vine/fel lotus is awesome (assuming you don't need it yourself). I'm sure the vine/lotus prices will drop with the patch, but they haven't dropped on my server yet.

Fel Lotus prices on my server have already gone down to 20g, from 30g. Prices will probably be stable at 18-20g.

On my server Primal Life prices have gone from 10-12g to 18-22g. I typically farm Skettis Forest Ragers for an hour or two every second day so I come into a LOT of Primal Life and it's improved the gold/hour I can make.

While everyone was out exploring new content on patch night I got a solid 3 hour skettis farm in with no competition at all.

I can't see Skettis Trees Being too profitable for many other class/spec setups. I can burn one with 800-1000dps keeping fear up and it's dead in 20-30 seconds. On a 7:30min(ish) respawn timer I do my rotation with about 30 seconds to spare. If you're killing them in 1-2mins then you're going to get overtaken by a serious farmer and lose out on gold/hour.

I am pretty sure they upped changed the greens on nethercite nodes to blues. I mined 82 nethercite ore and gotten 1 living ruby and 2 of all the other gems. I would think it is a patch bug and not intended, getting >10 blue gems from dailies dont seem right.

Prices on Primal Life are up here too, and my feral druid kills them in cat. It's... fast enough that I have to wait for spawns. The weird thing is that spellthread is still 300g. It boggles the mind.

I found the best way to make money was to do all the Sunwell Dailies as well as the old ones. I have 3 toons doing them everyday, getting 750g for 3hrs of work.

30 Badges, 15 primal fire, + netherweave + arcane dust + a crafter from a t5 on up guild makes a belt of blasting.
30 badges, 10 primal fire, and some adamantite makes a red belt of battle. Ect. This drives up demand for the primals involved something fierce -
I emptied the AH of primal fire repeatedly on patchday, paying precisely zero attention to price, because belts of blasting were selling for 2000 gold. each.

I've currently been making a fair bit of cash by buying [Nether Vortex] for 15 badges and then selling on the AH for 450g. It may sound silly but I've sold 3 in the last 24 hours, usually within a couple of hours of putting them up there.

Someone in my guild has reported this too. Specifically with the nethercite nodes.

The nether/vortex prices are quite surprising.
Primal Nether on my server are down to 20g, Vortex are falling below 200 currently.
Nothing much to gain from there currently.

Blue gems are back to the usual values after going down by 10g each.
Prismatic shards are at 20-25g, voids are at the same price(the server has so many voids its awful).

What do you guys think of this?

I've been picking up cheap primal nethers for 20-35g a piece in hopes of being able to sell them for at least 60g per nether in a couple of weeks. I figure once the sunwell patterns start circulating and the T6 badge vendor is out, people will need them. I figure people will be alot less likely to buy nethers for 10 badges when the badge gear itself is so costly, not to mention needing to blow badges for epic gems for many people.

Comments?

For JC, I've noticed that the rare gems have mostly stabilized in price. They're going for a bit less than before, but they've come back up from the panic dip pre-patch. The more interesting thing is watching the price on uncommon gems. Even the raw peridot's are sitting around 1-2g buyout when you'd usually sell them around 25-35s each. Blood Garnets were listed at 4g each, raw. Cut gems previously going for 2g have roughly doubled in price. I'm assuming part of the increase in price is for the anticipated JC recipe to turn the uncommons into the rares.

Adamantite prices don't seem to have been affected much. Still bouncing between 21g-25g a stack.

One other thing I'm seeing is a lack of adamantite powder on the AH. I've usually seen a fair number of stacks of it but it's been a bit more quiet since the patch.

On the plus side, the new Hellfire Peninsula dailies have meant racking up Primal Fire for me. I even grab a decent number of mana motes and adamantite ore while on Quael'Danas. The spawn rate on adamantite nodes there is pretty impressive.

Nethercite has always dropped blue gems as well as greens, what you're seeing is just a further enhancement of the blue drop rate due to the 2.4 %drop modifications.


Crafted items are selling for MEGABUCKS, especially anything made with primals. You can tack on nether charge (60g)+another 60g for the craft +3-5g per primal. Selling buckets of runic spellthreads at 300-349.99g apiece with mats costing me about 170-210(including nether)

I'd definitely like to move into the T5 belt market. In contrast to other BoE crafted gear, which is usually not as good as the dungeon alternatives, the belts are insane. Vortex prices are steady at 200g on bonechewer by now, and the inflation of primal fire/mana/air was mild. If my gold wasn't tied up in void crystals and flask mats, I'd probably start tonight.

T5 belts are the epitome of the big-ticket, low-work item: you gather the mats, find and employ a crafter, and sell to the AH for up to double your investment. Flasks, spellthread and leg armor, riding crops and high-slot bags are less profitable but bought more frequently, so they might be less vulnerable to competition. It'd be easy to sell 5 belts of blasting a week for 800 profit each, but if one person decides to move in and sell 10 a week for 100g profit you've essentially wasted your time and tied your money up in a stationary investment.

It's perfectly possible, though unlikely that the drop rate of BT gems is managed in the same way that motes of air etc are.
e.g. if there are a couple of hundred in circulation, then the droprate is dynamically adjusted by 0.1 - 0.2% to reduce the income of such items into the economy.
The same has been noticed on fel lotus, and other rare reagents.

As BT and Hyjal are now open the the public, more guilds will be farming those areas. If your guild previously had a monopoly on those regions you'll probably notice a reduction in the droprate of gems and hearts. The reduction should be minor however.

There was a blue post about it at some point, but i fear i can't find it currently.


The new dailies actually give me less gold than doing what i was doing before, and the new dailies pay less gold than the existing ones as well.
The only real inflation that i can see happening as we speak is [Formula: Arcane Dust], the quests away from the island give a bad with an almost 100% drop chance on a random green.

I'm doing exactly the same. I think I'm sitting at 200 Primal Nethers now, and I really am confident I'll make money from it.

Regarding the belt business, I am wondering how big the potential customer base is. I would wager that the people spending money on this would be players in Kara/Gruul guilds looking to move into SSC, or in early SSC/TK without pattern drops in their guild. This is a much smaller group than, say, potential buyers for spellthreads. I've still decided to give it a try.
As for primal nethers, I tend to agree that these have been significantly undervalued. Their badge cost is high, and the only other viable source are final bosses in heroic dungeons. Nethers for 20g weren't available on my server (young, low population), but even 40g nethers should be a bargain in the longer run.