Not everyone can figure out what to farm that would yield better gold/hour than dailies.
Not everyone is market savvy enough to play the AH.

Everyone CAN, however, understand the concept of clicking goggles near 6 Nagrand clouds and getting 10g for their trouble.

Say what you will about dailies being bad gold/hour, but the appeal of doing them extends into the human psyche.

Imagine you had to get from 69 to 70, but there were no quests. Instead, you have to grind out the several hundred thousand exp. That's what all the Korean MMO's do, right?

WoW has a wildly successful leveling scheme because questing breaks down the grind into manageable chunks of 10 minutes of work each.

It gives you a specific (kill 10 wolves), short-term (takes 5 minutes to kill 10 wolves) goal and rewards you with a significant chunk of exp for it.

The daily quests are the same thing, but in gold form. I could certainly fly out to Black Temple, beat up on Demon Hunter Supplicants for 2 hours and come out with more gold than a 2 hour daily loop, but there's very little appeal for me to do so. To get from 100g to 5,000g is a very long climb, and not everyone can convince themselves to kill Skettis Surgers for hours everyday until they hit that goal. By doing daily quests, you have a determinate stopping point for making your money, with very little risk.

do entire loops of the island, one near entrance to dead scar, the two you mentioned one up behind Hellfire portal, they make a nice loop.

I net close to 300+g in slightly over 2 hours just by doing dailies. (Mind you, im a 20/41/0 Priest, so soloing is a tad troublesome for me.) For solo quests, i basically follow a route which i found least time consuming.

Pick up the BEM, Netherstorm quests in Shatt, then take the portal to Sunwell Isle (finish Bombing, 2 killing quests, Demons, and Ley Lines), then Port to BT using the neck. Head towards Netherwing Mines and just complete Deadliest Trap on the way and finish up Cargoes. From there i fly to Hellfire Peninsula for the 2 quests there, and head up to the nearest Manaforge in Netherstorm. Fly towards BEM and finish Mana Cells (its easier to just fear the mobs and ninja the cells rather than actually killing them for me.), followed by Rays and Bombing. From there you fly to Nagrand and then do Goggles quest and maybe squeeze in the Halaa one if theres a raid going on for it, otherwise head back to Shatt for BG Daily. That's my usual cycle, fishing and cooking quest can be done at your own pace anyway so i rather not include those.

TLDR version: Shatt>Sunwell Isle>SMV>Hellfire Peninsula>Netherstorm>BEM>Nagrand>Shatt

Mining



Blue line: you need to run up the hill and carefully run along the little ledge next to the building, you'll get no aggro from any naga, and can just jump down and kill the one guarding the mid-east node. (assuming you are making a clockwise loop.

A way to improve your gold/hour with the new dailies (and get some rep while you're at it) is to do what I do. However, you'll need more than 1 account and a decent computer setup to pull this off.
I have 3 accounts with a PC that's capable of running WoW twice (dual monitor 1680x1050 @ max) and a laptop that can run WoW once. I log in on al three accounts and put two of them on /follow and then do the quests on my main character. There's some micro-management involved with mounting up and handing in the quests but the actual quests themselves are easy.
For instance, the quest to get the readings at Oshu'gun in Nagrand. Only one character has to make the reading and all characters in the party get credit for it. This goes for a lot of quests!

Throne of Kil'Jaeden:
Killing a emaciated felblood gives credit to the entire group.
Killing a spark grows the embers of all your party members as long as they have it out.
Nagrand:
Taking a reading at Oshu'gun gives credit to the entire group.
Netherstorm:
The sunfury attack plans are group-lootable so you only have to find one.
Blade's edge mountains:
The Manacells are not shareable or group-lootable. 10 for each character.
Isle of Quel'Danas:
Converting the erratic sentries gives credit to the entire group
Mana remnants for the crystal wards are not group-lootable. You'll need 4 for each character.
The bombing quests gives credit to the entire party. Just launch all your chars at roughly the same time.
Know your ley lines gives credit to the entire group
Killing the demons and the emissary of hate gives credit to the entire group.

I do all the quests except the mana cell and mana remnants one. I only do the mana remnants one on my main character since I'm killing there anyway. This on 3 characters at once and one of them is a mage for easy portals to Shattrath (and from there to IOQ) nets me an easy 90g per character. It takes me a little over an hour to do all so I'm at about 250g/hour but I can only do it once per day. Still, it's a nice amount of gold and ~1300 rep to boot

What happens if you get all four on one character and then use them, since it is the actual using of the mana remnants?

That only gives credit for the one character that used the Remnants. You absolutely need 4 Remnants per character.

Actually it grows the embers of anyone who happens to be in the vicinity, you just have to be close enough to someone's spark when it dies.

Whatever happened to khorium? I stacked up like 20-30stacks before the patch and the price hasn't risen,sometimes by 1-2g.

I would hold it a bit longer. I think many people had a good supply built up because it never really prospered in the AH compared to its perceived scarcity. There were times I could not even move a stack but adamantite sometimes sold for more than I could the khorium. I thought it had more uses this patch but required some time before people would actually clamor for it

What should have happened? The only new things requiering Khorium are the new recipes from Sunwell. Considering the droprate and difficulty of trash, paired with the long time "no use"-feature of Khorium creating stocks for any miner it was likely the price wont increase any notable amount.

I beg to differ. I make a cool 80g a day buying stuff and vendoring it. Craft bandages while waiting for queues. 80g. Profit. Zero risk. Five minutes to scan in the morning, another five at night. That's almost 500g/hour doing jack. Granted, it takes all week to get that one hour of "work" scanning for vendor items....

The hardest part of farming the AH is waiting one minute for server-side refresh before I use my "retrieve all mail" macro.

Sure, my AH character has 60 days /played. So what? I'm reading/studying/coding in another window, awaiting that Pavlonian "ding!" How much reading/whatever do you get in during your two hours of grinding?

Only thing I'm buying off the AH lately is recipes I don't have yet. This is actually because of the new dailies.

Doing the new fishing daily as a side effect has me accumulate fish faster than I use them. New herbalism daily has me gathering herbs faster than I use them. New mining daily has me gathering ore faster than I use it.

So I end up getting the money from the dailies and also selling my surplus. I never used to have a surplus because I mostly can't stand farming. But put a quest in front of the farming and suddenly I'm motivated to do it.

Sunwell hasn't been out long enough for the plans to even drop, for the most part, let alone filter out from large, well organized guilds that would have their own khorium if they want the gear on someone. Or they could just buy it, as there is no general demand for it and thus prices are insignificant to the sort of guild bank that is going into Sunwell.

In fact you just need to be close to a spark to grow you ember, you don't need the tap or even be of the same faction as the killer. Also, you can plant your flag in the Emissary of Hate even if you didn't the the tap or the kill on it.

I'm also finding the new dalies extremely profitable, especially with two characters. I'm sick enough of the old dalies that I don't do any of them, so this is my daily loop:

1. Start in Shattrath, pick up the 3 quests.
2. Hit Nagrand for the orange clouds, BEM for mana cells, Netherstorm for the plans.
3. Cut the corner and fly to Throne of Kil'jaeden, do the two dalies there, hearth back to Shat.
4. Port to IoQ, and do all the dalies except for the bombing run because I hate it.

If I end up getting ganked/camped too much on IoQ (not an uncommon occurance), I just switch to my other character for a bit and do the Outlands quests, which are remarkably PvP-free. I've made probably 1500g just doing this dalies since 2.4 hit, which is way more than I could ever get myself to make farming to working the AH.

Erm...this is across two characters right? I'm up to 11 SSO dailies and probably only pulling about 110-120g cash, so I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something. Of course similar to your experience, doing the dailies also nets me a stack or two of netherweave, motes of mana/fire, maybe some marks/armaments, greens that yesterday DEd into 7 GPEs and a stack of arcane dust, a stack of knothide leather, and half a stack of clefthoof. I was pretty thrilled.

Like a poster suggested; it might not be the best gold/hour, but I can't stand farming for undefined periods of time. Breaking things down into concrete, finite tasks makes it infinitely more tolerable. Plus, having this many dailies available and so easily accessible has been great for me. Prior to 2.4, I probably did less than 10 daily quests total since they had been introduced (not including PvP dailies). Now I do 10 (11 now that the portal is open) every single day, and I'd imagine a lot of people are in a similar boat. Should be interesting to see what effect this has on the AH; I paid 32g for a primal air last night -_-

While I don't know the specifics for the poster you're responding to, I know I pick up side-quests in the locations I'm in anyway. I check whether the cooking daily is either the one in Nagrand or Blade's Edge, pick up the quick other dailies in Blade's Edge (Usually I skip banishing since it's annoying with low DPS, though potentially the best money of the lot if you have the time do do Shartuul), and I also make a point of doing the fishing daily. Those extra quests add a fair bit of cash, in part because you end up doing more kills.

If you only play an hour a week, doing your 8 mooncloths and you net 1200g, you are making 1200g per hour of playtime that week.

On topic, I haven't found anything to replace my skettis farming. Seeing how prices of Primal Lifes have gone up, pots are staying about constant, I'm finding this to be more profitable than mining.

The point is that it's not sustainable at that rate so it's misrepresenting your moneymaking potential. 300g every 4 days is more accurate.

To give a sort of absurd example, whenever I kill a mob it takes me a split second to actually pick up the few silver. For that split second I might be making 10000g/hr, but it ridiculous to call it that because it makes more sense to measure the total time cost in a given "cycle", which is actually getting a mob in range, killing it, and looting it. Same with mooncloth generation -- you've got to include the cooldown. Just counting the couple minutes to actually generate a the mooncloth is just as unreasonable as just counting the time it takes to loot a mob.

If I logged in, met someone and sold them 1000g worth of Hearts of Darkness and a Shoulders Pattern, then logged out for a total elasped time of 5 minutes, I wouldn't think anyone is interested in the fact that over that exceptionally brief time span, I was making 12,000g/hour. Yes, semantically you are, but it's not interesting and not the point of this thread.

This is a completely different scenario than he proposed. The amount of time it took to gather the mats, put them on the AH and collect the gold takes him an hour. Thus the ENTIRE process of making the gold, took him an hour.

Your scenario would have to factor in the time it took for you to collect the mats that you are selling. If I log on, travel to <insert location>, get <insert item>, and sell it for 1000g an hour after I logged on, consistently, I would consider myself to be making 1000g an hour by doing this process.

Exactly my point. If he is given the mats by someone else, logs on and does his thing and logs off, he is making that gold/hour played because the ENTIRE cycle that he is involved in took an hour.

So, what you're saying, is it only counts in the frame of how long it would take you to ... repeat the process?