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Old 12/05/07, 11:12 AM   #1
Kir
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Twinking tricks/Leveling alts

I don't want this thread to be a standard leveling guide, that's not the kind of shit you'd find on EJ. Instead, I wanted to get end game players take on twinking out and leveling new alts. That is, what class do you think can level fastest using resources available to end game raiders, and in what way can you do it.

example: Paladins are generally not a fast leveling class, but they have the option of AE farming with good equipment and a good shield spike. A new player does not have this option, as they would not have the cash to twink out their character and get an expensive shield spike. But, if you do, then you can level pretty quickly.

To give you background, I play a mage, but I'm gonna roll a druid alt now that our guild is close to raiding half as much (Working on Illidan). But, even with the increased leveling exp, I have a hard time re-doing content I've done many times before. Personally, I'm looking for the fastest and most interesting ways to level alts. But, I want the thread to be about others ideas and tricks from end game raiders for the quickest way to level other classes. I mean, borderline exploit worthy tricks. If it takes 2-3 people to do, that's ok too.

Try to stay away from just recommending 'good' areas to farm, unless it's related to the trick you are talking about or the area has some trick to it for the class. Example: If you were leveling a mage and wanted to AE farm with frost spec, you'd have to find areas with densely packed non-ranged and non-caster mobs.

If there is a certain item(s) that make leveling ridiculously easier for that class, mention those. i.e. the shield spike for the paladin, or some overly powerful leveling item that slipped through the cracks (something like heroism deck for a melee class at lvl 60, but for lower levels).

Lastly, if there are good areas to take your alt that would actually make good money for your main too, you can throw that in.

Hopefully the mods find this EJ worthy, I know it's closely related to a standard WoW forum type thread. But, I wanted to go in a different direction, from the POV that everyone has leveled one or more classes all the way to the end game already, and hope we can stick to that.

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Old 12/05/07, 11:24 AM   #2
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Well, if you're ever looking to level a warrior, find a 70 resto druid to follow you around out of party and hot you. Questing gives the best XP now, considering the changes, but instead of fighting one thing at a time, dual wield, pull large groups and cleave/ww/ss spam them down. The more you pull, the more rage you get, the more damage you do.

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Old 12/05/07, 11:40 AM   #3
Nezralix
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You would probably need a different guide for every class type, considering you can't just tag and kill until around 62 or something.

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Old 12/05/07, 11:54 AM   #4
Gothik
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Does anyone know a decent aoe grind guide for paladin? I started a new account and leveling a paladin to heal at 70...but ive done the old content so many times that its very painful and boring to do.

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Old 12/05/07, 11:57 AM   #5
generex
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Originally Posted by Merple View Post
Well, if you're ever looking to level a warrior, find a 70 resto druid to follow you around out of party and hot you. Questing gives the best XP now, considering the changes, but instead of fighting one thing at a time, dual wield, pull large groups and cleave/ww/ss spam them down. The more you pull, the more rage you get, the more damage you do.
This works with a Warlock, too. Since when you're always healed to full you have pretty much infinite mana and can just DoT target after target.

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Old 12/05/07, 12:00 PM   #6
Aranan
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I was under the impression that if a higher level character "interferes" in the combat, the lower level would get less experience. Does this only count for offensive actions (i.e. a level 70 throwing out debuffs or damage to mobs) and not to healing (druid HoTs on a warlock/warrior)?

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Old 12/05/07, 12:07 PM   #7
Kir
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Originally Posted by Nezralix View Post
You would probably need a different guide for every class type, considering you can't just tag and kill until around 62 or something.
Not looking for people to post detailed 1-70 guides. More like specific things most people probably wouldn't know about. Similar to the "Art of Making Gold" thread where people talk about the best farm spots/techniques. Except, any area from 10-70 is acceptable, and it's more for getting exp instead of gold. Like, if there is a spot with nearly instant respawn times, or overly easy mobs assuming you have item X. Even if it's only for a certain level range, such as 40-45.

We all know having a level 70 healer can powerlvl a melee class, or warlock, quite effectively just by reducing downtime to 0 in between mobs. Looking for the more obscure stuff.

Originally Posted by Gothik View Post
Does anyone know a decent aoe grind guide for paladin? I started a new account and leveling a paladin to heal at 70...but ive done the old content so many times that its very painful and boring to do.
That's not what this thread is for. It's for people to post the info/tricks they know, not ask for guides. I'm sure you can find what you are looking for with a little time on the WoW forums or WoWwiki. That's where I originally heard about it, and saw videos of it being done.

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Old 12/05/07, 12:39 PM   #8
Belteshazzar
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Ursin
It's not a huge tip, but more a time-saving handy one. For all the cooking quests, all the requirements are BoE, so if they're not on the AH (not usually), it's a lot easier to grind the drops on a toon with a mount.

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Old 12/05/07, 12:40 PM   #9
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For those who want guides, James' guide is the best one around for alliance lvls 30-60, tons of people have used it, and it's free.

Jame's Alliance Leveling Guide | World of Warcraft Pro

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Old 12/05/07, 12:50 PM   #10
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I've found a couple of things can help out enormously.

1. Find a white 1H sword that can be used by a level 1 and enchant it with fiery. Find a white level 1 dagger or staff and enchant it with 30 spell damage. Now you have a weapon that will last quite a few levels and you can re-use it on other alts.

2. If you're a twinked out melee, your kill rate should be high enough that mobs in caves will respawn like mad.

3. If you're leveling a ret paladin, make sure to pick up The Pacifier. your kill rate with that thing + SoC + fiery enchant will be absurd.

4. Spirit is all kinds of OP at low levels.

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Old 12/05/07, 12:55 PM   #11
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Just so you guys know, Lifebloom doesn't work on low level targets, and when you try to rejuv someone that is much lower level than you it automatically lowers the rank of the rejuv. While not a bad idea, spamming low rank rejuv wouldn't be that much fun for someone :P

I will say though, I have been leveling an Undead Warrior and I have had a bit of help. As soon as I hit 30 I got my Whirlwind Axe and had it enchanted with Savagery. Had improve slam at 2/2 when I hit 31, and my sustained dps went from the high 30s when i was level 29 to around 90 dps at 31, getting slam crits sometimes around 550.

You gotta do things like this if you wanna level fast, a level 30 Warrior using a level 40 weapon enchanted with a level 70 enchant...she rips threw things.

Unfortunately, you wouldn't be able to do something like this as a druid, because all that matters to you is AP.

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Old 12/05/07, 1:00 PM   #12
Gothik
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Originally Posted by Kir View Post
That's not what this thread is for. It's for people to post the info/tricks they know, not ask for guides. I'm sure you can find what you are looking for with a little time on the WoW forums or WoWwiki. That's where I originally heard about it, and saw videos of it being done.

Maybe ''guide'' was a bad choice to describe what i want. Im looking for some guidelines about aoe farm, something to improve the xp/hour...most of the guides you refer are outdated and dont take in consideration patch 2.3. You were the first to ask for ''tricks'' or ''info'' no need to jump on me for doing the same. Thank you.

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Old 12/05/07, 1:02 PM   #13
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A list of best enchants that can be used on twinks (<35):

Weapon: +30 spell damage, +55 healing (MC enchants), Crusader, Fiery, and the old str/agi enchants (I believe 15agi or str).

Gloves: +15agi, +20 school-specific spell damage

Bracers: +9str or stam

Boots: Minor move speed (+8% move speed).

Chest: +4 all stats

Leggings/Helm - Libram enchants (+8 to one stat best).


General Gearing Tips:

If powerleveling a druid, ideally you want as much of the tiger gear as possible, and str/agi enchants on everything. It's all about kill speed. Enchants are very powerful for increasing DPS compared gear.

For a melee class, an appropriate-level blue weapon with fiery every few levels is optimal, enchants are good but secondary.

For a caster, caster enchants sucked pre-tbc. Get a +30 spell damage to a weapon and it'll probably last you till 60. Likewise if you can find an enchanter for the somewhat rare AQ glove enchant recipes.

If you can dual box your character with a healer, it makes things a lot faster/easier. I dual boxed my current main from 30-70 with my druid out of group using heals on him - it made everything incredibly easy.


Leveling Tips:

There is no "secret". Just do quests, do them fast. Do as many as you can before coming back to town. Skip ones that have a poor rate of return for time spent. Use a leveling guide to give you an optimal path if you can't figure out one yourself. Aoe farming / power instance running / etc has been eclipsed by simple questing. Quest your ass off, and then quest some more.

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Old 12/05/07, 1:07 PM   #14
Kadaan
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1. Get a second account (make sure to refer-a-friend to yourself for a free month of wow.)
2. Create your alt on the second account
3. Level to ~10 normally in the starting area
4. Use your main to drag the alt through instances, as a mage you can clear deadmines/WC so fast you'll hit the instances/hour cap
5. I spent about 20m searching but can't find a post, but someone had a SS of dinging level 40 with less than a day of playtime using this strategy.

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Old 12/05/07, 1:12 PM   #15
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Perhaps obvious, but the most important thing to me is planning and preparation. Spend at least a few weeks checking the AH for gear before actually leveling an alt so you have all relevant rare boes and good greens for the foreseeable future. I find this especially critical for casters as [Enter Type] Wrath-greens are (or were until the 2.3 instance loot changes, at least) the only items that you can possibly get for most slots that at all do anything to help you level.

Unfortunately for you Druid may be the least twinkable class in the game, unless you count grouping with a warrior or warlock twink who does most of your killing while you heal.

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