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Old 08/04/08, 7:52 PM   #926
Zlatan
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Originally Posted by Fqubed View Post
At the moment the best way is probably to use an out of group that has green mobs to your orange/red mobs. You tag them he kills them. That still gives full exp.
For example; i tag any lvl 60 mob at level 47, and if a level 68 kills it I still get full xp ?

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Old 08/05/08, 12:01 PM   #927
Zure
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Originally Posted by Zlatan View Post
I just rerolled a new character so I decided to take a look at that topic. Have a lot of nice tips/tricks. But i think it will be more nice if someone keeps which of them still doable or not. Looks like best way to get lvl 70 after level 55 is boosting yourself in SP. From the replies I understood that Athene's powerleveling method is nerfed. So I wanted to ask what is the fastest available way to get level 55. Hunter's Pet, or AoE'ing with a mage friend or any trick like Sunken Temple ? :P
The fastest leveling method will always depend on the tools you have available to you.

For example, technically the fastest leveling method would probably be to have lvl 70 warriors/bears gather up entire zones' worth of mobs with demo shout/roar which a powerleveling mage would then just rank 1 blizzard to tag, followed by having a bunch of above level but still green con dps mow down. It's possible to kill thousands of mobs in a matter of minutes this way -- with warlocks summoning you and your crew around I'd imagine someone could go 1 to 70 in about a matter of a couple hours /played if perfectly executed -- though the human resources required are astronomical.

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For example; i tag any lvl 60 mob at level 47, and if a level 68 kills it I still get full xp ?
Correct.

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Old 08/05/08, 6:29 PM   #928
Freelier
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Okay, I just have to ask. Can I buy a 2-month account, create a level 1 toon on it, and have the toon follow me around as a ghost while I get 3x XP from kills and quests?

Blizzard Support

What's the total cost to create an account? Does the toon have to be alive to get the bonus?

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Old 08/05/08, 6:33 PM   #929
Freelier
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Okay, I didn't read the FAQ very well. It looks as though you'd have to legitimately multibox to get the benefits. Still, it should significantly speed up the leveling process.

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Old 08/05/08, 7:35 PM   #930
Original Look
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Originally Posted by Freelier View Post
Okay, I just have to ask. Can I buy a 2-month account, create a level 1 toon on it, and have the toon follow me around as a ghost while I get 3x XP from kills and quests?

Blizzard Support

What's the total cost to create an account? Does the toon have to be alive to get the bonus?
I think so, yes. As far as I could tell from reading through the support page, that should be fine. However, you would have to level the character on your current account and the ghost at the same time. You could not get the level 1 ghost to follow around a higher level character and still receive the bonus (well, the ghost would - but not your main character).

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Old 08/07/08, 9:12 PM   #931
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Anyone who's done ST runs as a prot pala have tips to share? I got my alt to 42 with lots of SM runs and now I started ST and am having some trouble.

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Old 08/08/08, 3:00 PM   #932
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ST leveling trick has been nerfed, I believe that was mentioned earlier in this thread.

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Old 08/09/08, 1:28 AM   #933
Zeuter
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Not that hunters need a lot of help whilst leveling, but this item is just obscene:
[Fletcher's Gloves]

It provides 4.33% crit at the level you get it due to old crit% conversion into critrating, and is worth wearing for almost your entire time in Azeroth.

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Old 08/09/08, 8:13 PM   #934
Nizghalad
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Hyjal (EU)
Originally Posted by MatthewDB View Post
ST leveling trick has been nerfed, I believe that was mentioned earlier in this thread.
According to my information, it has been nerfed on the US forums, but un-nervfed on the EU ones. Since I don't have access to a paladin, I could be wrong.
If YOU do, go ahead and profit from it NOW, as it WILL be removed soon enough.

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Old 08/10/08, 7:02 PM   #935
MatthewDB
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That is very strange, I'm curious as to why they would remove it considering at 3X xp I could level 4 RAF group from 35 to 55 in probably 2 hours, maybe less. As it was that trick was extremely fast leveling, combined with the healing boss.

edit: level 4 RAFs on my paladin that is....

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Old 08/11/08, 7:39 AM   #936
ZeroWashu
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Originally Posted by Zeuter View Post
Not that hunters need a lot of help whilst leveling, but this item is just obscene:
[Fletcher's Gloves]

It provides 4.33% crit at the level you get it due to old crit% conversion into critrating, and is worth wearing for almost your entire time in Azeroth.
Those are replaced by [Dragonscale Gauntlets] at level 40. These also work for an enhancement shaman till level 57 gear shows up. Combine with [Green Whelp Armor] which is great leveling gear for any leather/mail wearers until the late forties and fifties.

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Old 08/13/08, 2:24 AM   #937
dexx
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Khaz'goroth
How does the new refer-a-friend triple xp bonus affect grouped xp? For example, normally two lvl 5 toons grouped with a 70 would get stuff all xp when killing mobs. Is this still the case if the two lowbies are on 3xp? What about the 3xp for quest handins?

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Old 08/13/08, 2:42 AM   #938
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It just triples everything. Whatever XP you would normally get in whatever situation is exactly the same, then multiplied by 3.

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Old 08/13/08, 3:28 AM   #939
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Originally Posted by ZeroWashu View Post
Those are replaced by [Dragonscale Gauntlets] at level 40. These also work for an enhancement shaman till level 57 gear shows up.
[Marauder's Handwraps] are Alliance-side only, but can be obtained in the low 40s and lasted me until BC gear.

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Old 08/13/08, 8:37 PM   #940
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Originally Posted by Calantus View Post
It just triples everything. Whatever XP you would normally get in whatever situation is exactly the same, then multiplied by 3.
Yep. It makes taking a high level character and running two linked characters through instances incredibly good. I don't have a high-level AoE type (yet, since I'm working on a mage with this), but I believe my mage and fiancee's shaman were getting ~30k XP per Cathedral run that I was doing with my warrior. So basically, if you can afford the second account for a month or so, it doesn't even seem to be a question anymore.

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Old 08/13/08, 10:19 PM   #941
Stormshot
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Windrunner
I guess this would be the best place to ask this question: What would be the best way to twink out a Deathknight?

My goal here is to level through Outland as fast as possible to see the new content in Northrend, and to powerlevel a few professions to max. Now, theres profession guides all over the place, but I want to start using my main charecter now, to twink out my Deathknight for faster leveling when the time comes. My first thought would be to grind out some of the repeatable reputation turnins, but are those really worth it for the EXP and which ones can I do now? Another obvious thought is getting gear. But are Outland's quest rewards enough for fast leveling, or is there gear I can get now that will speed the process? Also for anyone in the beta, is ther any gear from Outland you found particularly valuble while questing in Northrend? Lastly, I can't decide if I should go to Outland right away or do a zone or two of quests in Azeroth first like Silithus or EPL.

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Old 08/14/08, 8:09 AM   #942
Ukerric
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Dalaran (EU)
Originally Posted by Stormshot View Post
Lastly, I can't decide if I should go to Outland right away or do a zone or two of quests in Azeroth first like Silithus or EPL.
Head straight to Outland at 58. You not only vastly outgear the classic zones, you even outgear the start of Outland as well. The DKs are designed for that. You will probably need a bit of levelling though, because you're not going to leave the starting area at around early-mid 57, leaving you with a bit of a level to do before crossing the Dark Portal. Suggestion is not to bother with EPL: head to WPL, do the full cauldrons quest line, which should be fast, and you should be 58 or nearly so. That's what I did in beta.

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Old 08/14/08, 4:44 PM   #943
chaddlock
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nice, and...

Originally Posted by Sou View Post
Enchant white gloves with riding skill and put spurs on some white boots.
All the mount speed enchants stack so along with the carrot, it's 9%. Like riding crop light until 69.
And since they're white you can reuse them.

NICE. I would also add in use the wardrobe mod, outfiter or something similar. Make a set of gear, including these 2 items, that are associated w/ you being mounted. When you mount up, it will auto equip these items for you.

As a side note, I do this not only for riding, But also a set that equips a whole set of gear with one click for BGs, and raids.

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Old 08/24/08, 12:41 PM   #944
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Originally Posted by Gryth View Post
Yep. It makes taking a high level character and running two linked characters through instances incredibly good. I don't have a high-level AoE type (yet, since I'm working on a mage with this), but I believe my mage and fiancee's shaman were getting ~30k XP per Cathedral run that I was doing with my warrior.
Is that really superior to doing the right quests? Quest XP is trippled as well, and if you avoid the painful gathering quests and stick to "kill that, then that, run around" etc, it might even be better.

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Old 08/25/08, 2:25 PM   #945
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It definitely was, yes. I believe they've knocked down some of the high-leveled boosting possibilities over the last couple weeks, but I haven't really played with it since then.

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Old 08/25/08, 3:04 PM   #946
WHTS
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Anyone know if you can link your own two accounts? Or does it have to be different owners?

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Old 08/25/08, 3:12 PM   #947
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Originally Posted by WHTS View Post
Anyone know if you can link your own two accounts? Or does it have to be different owners?
Yes you can. I know a lot of people have done this, works as long as you follow the usual procedure.

Recruit-A-Friend FAQ

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Old 08/29/08, 5:33 AM   #948
Earl
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Originally Posted by Gryth View Post
Yep. It makes taking a high level character and running two linked characters through instances incredibly good. I don't have a high-level AoE type (yet, since I'm working on a mage with this), but I believe my mage and fiancee's shaman were getting ~30k XP per Cathedral run that I was doing with my warrior. So basically, if you can afford the second account for a month or so, it doesn't even seem to be a question anymore.


Obviously the gap between being boosted and leveling normally is no bigger than what it was before the reffer a friend bonus, seeing as both of them are 3 times faster. Or actually, this change favors the questers quite a bit seeing as you will level up 3 times as fast, which means there are ALOT of 'innefective' quests you can skip.I must say question is absolutly incredible though with the new quest bonus i got 40k exp for one quest at level 40, that was like 45% of that level. Cauldron quests give 30k a piece, and i mean seeing as you are 2 people, you can do some of the harder quests fast and easy, like the 3 giant quests outside of booty bay is probably close to a full level by itself in a matter of minutes (assuming you have the buzzard wings for the 3d giant)


Originally Posted by Mideci View Post
So we discussed this not one page ago in the thread. Of course it is an exploit. How can you not see this?

Normal case: You get assistance from a much higher level player to kill a mob, you get a huge dimunition in experience.

"Tap and ungroup case": You tap an instance mob, one of you is booted from the group in the instance, the high level burns down the mob for you, you get the full experience as if you killed said mob.

They intend for you to suffer an experience penalty when a higher level player kills your instance mob, you are circumventing it. In fact, they don't want you having people not in your group while in an instance. They give you all of 60 seconds to reinvite them to your party before they teleport said persons out of your instance.

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And to Mideci, it woud be nice if you try to stick to something i like to call'facts' instead of stating your own opinions like they are the one and only truth. Blizzard does not look at tap leveling in instances as an exploit. I have spoken to several GM's about this all of them saying its legal, spoke to today just so I could copy paste chat log.
[08/29/08]
10:09[Maelkiruth]: Greetings Earl, this is Game Master Maelkiruth. Apologies for interrupting your game-play. Would you have a moment to discuss your ticket about our policies?
10:09[Earl]: Yes
10:10[Maelkiruth]: What can I help you with exactly?
10:10[Earl]: I was wondering if you knowi f "tap leveling" in instances is against the policies?
10:11[Maelkiruth]: Not as such, but the game mechanics prevent full profit from tap leveling.
10:12[Earl]: it does? how?
10:12[Earl]: or well yes
10:12[Earl]: it does
10:12[Maelkiruth]: The xp gained isn't as high.
10:13[Earl]: Yeah, but if the mob is within green or above range for both players its full exp, right?
10:13[Earl]: or i know its right x-d
10:13[Earl]: But then, there is nothing wrong with me going into slave pens with some level 70, (all mobs there are green for a level 70) i leave party and tag mobs, and he helps me kill?
10:13[Maelkiruth]: You will gain less xp when in a group with a higher lvl player though.
10:14[Earl]: yes. tap leveling means not being in group though x-d
10:14[Maelkiruth]: There's no rule against doing that.
10:14[Earl]: Goodie

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Old 08/29/08, 7:28 AM   #949
Mideci
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Earl, respect intended, your copy-paste proves absolutely nothing except that Maelkiruth doesn't understand what you are talking about and then -- at the end -- is probably ready to dismiss you because you are well past his quota time to talk with you.

It's an exploit. Period.

Game mechanics are specifically in place to prevent you from profiting at all from this. "The xp gained isn't as high" and "you will gain less xp when in a group with a higher lvl player though" proves he doesn't understand what you are talking about at all and he merely thinks you are instancing with a higher level player. If he understood that you were discussing having someone who the instance is in the process of booting get all the XP, I'm more than 100% sure he'd tell you it's against the rules.

They specifically went through a process of ending the "dot and run" process which was a less egregious version of what you've called "tap leveling". I'm sorry if you want to believe this is legal, but it is obviously not legal, obviously not a creative use of game mechanics, obviously an attempt to circumvent a clearly implemented penalty for having a higher level player in your instance group, and absolutely a fast route to a sanction or a ban. I have absolutely no idea why you think otherwise, why you think your transcript proves otherwise when it's clear the GM doesn't understand what you're talking about, why you think in-game GMs are any source of authority on this topic anyway, or why people think it's necessary to run this kind of exploit to level their characters.

You need to ask yourself this fundamental question and you will clearly see its an exploit:

Is there an XP penalty for having a higher level player in your instance group? Yes or no.

The answer is yes.

"Tap leveling" is a method of using the one-minute instance-boot mechanic to circumvent said penalty. There is no possible legitimate use of the instance-boot, de-grouping mechanic here. It is solely being used to circumvent the high-level-in-party penalty. As such, it is an exploit.

If we can get this above the clutter on the official WoW forums, I guarantee you will find this to be the case.

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Old 08/29/08, 12:17 PM   #950
fip
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Originally Posted by Mideci View Post
Earl, respect intended, your copy-paste proves absolutely nothing except that Maelkiruth doesn't understand what you are talking about and then -- at the end -- is probably ready to dismiss you because you are well past his quota time to talk with you.

It's an exploit. Period.

Game mechanics are specifically in place to prevent you from profiting at all from this. "The xp gained isn't as high" and "you will gain less xp when in a group with a higher lvl player though" proves he doesn't understand what you are talking about at all and he merely thinks you are instancing with a higher level player. If he understood that you were discussing having someone who the instance is in the process of booting get all the XP, I'm more than 100% sure he'd tell you it's against the rules.

They specifically went through a process of ending the "dot and run" process which was a less egregious version of what you've called "tap leveling". I'm sorry if you want to believe this is legal, but it is obviously not legal, obviously not a creative use of game mechanics, obviously an attempt to circumvent a clearly implemented penalty for having a higher level player in your instance group, and absolutely a fast route to a sanction or a ban. I have absolutely no idea why you think otherwise, why you think your transcript proves otherwise when it's clear the GM doesn't understand what you're talking about, why you think in-game GMs are any source of authority on this topic anyway, or why people think it's necessary to run this kind of exploit to level their characters.

You need to ask yourself this fundamental question and you will clearly see its an exploit:

Is there an XP penalty for having a higher level player in your instance group? Yes or no.

The answer is yes.

"Tap leveling" is a method of using the one-minute instance-boot mechanic to circumvent said penalty. There is no possible legitimate use of the instance-boot, de-grouping mechanic here. It is solely being used to circumvent the high-level-in-party penalty. As such, it is an exploit.

If we can get this above the clutter on the official WoW forums, I guarantee you will find this to be the case.
To follow up on this though, I thought that when they nerfed dot-and-run that they nerfed tap leveling as well. Would I still be able to get full XP if I: went into SM with a 70 and 3 30s, ran around on the 70 gathering mobs with body agro, then ran back to the 30s, booted the 70 from the group and frost nova'd with one of the 30s (just something to get tap). Then go with the 70 and kill them all real fast? That would grant me full xp?

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