To follow up on this though, I thought that when they nerfed dot-and-run that they nerfed tap leveling as well. Would I still be able to get full XP if I: went into SM with a 70 and 3 30s, ran around on the 70 gathering mobs with body agro, then ran back to the 30s, booted the 70 from the group and frost nova'd with one of the 30s (just something to get tap). Then go with the 70 and kill them all real fast? That would grant me full xp?
Using the Recruit-a-Friend thingy really makes WoW Classic fly by. One of my major concerns when duoing a pair of Hunters up have been the pet level (which I dealt with by either taming new pets or doing a few drop quests) and the weapon/defense skills. About to hit 60 soon, and I spent a whole lot of time on stupid drop quests as well as Mining.
It does cost a bit (15 Euro) but it's amazingly effective. It's also levelling as you haven't seen it before (tm) - really made me appreciate WoW a heck of a lot more. My main complaint is that 3.0 is not going to be out in time for me to gain the 60-70 XP adjustment advantage.
"Let me be clear... I am prepared to claim any level of incompetence, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid culpability." SMBC #2387
I (mage) got asked to boost a friend in SM, joined by a paladin. While I waited by the entrance of the instance, the paladin ran around tagging a lot of the instance returning them to me. He concecrated them down to about 15%, I left group and frostnovaed. Paladin ran out of instance and I aoe'd the mobs down. I'm pretty sure my friend got XP from this, am I wrong?
Just to add something about the RaF leveling. When you grant someone a level up, they go from the % of XP they had to the same % at next level, so say you are level 59 and 1% xp left to 60 and get granted a level, you will then be lvl 60 with 1% to go to lvl 61. Saves a few hours of questing atleast when you get up to 60 where the xp gap is raised quite a bit.
I'd like to level a priest up for Wrath and I've decided to use RaF with dual boxing to do it. Here's my plan:
* Start a Priest on my main account and Warrior on the RaF account.
* Play the warrior, use autohotkey to control the priest. Mostly just macros for casting renew, flash heal, and gheal on the warrior.
* The priest will spec holy, mostly just for improved renew, divine fury, and the other talents. I don't think the priest's spec matters much, just anything that improves healing efficiency. Maybe I'll go up Disc for Meditation eventually.
* The warrior's spec will be fury. Probably. I'm open to suggestions. I've never played a Warrior before (or any melee class) so I'm not up on all of the mechanics and which talents are best. But I can do some research in the leveling talent spec thread to pick up most of that info I'm sure.
* Use questing to level the two together up to 59. Get the priest within a couple xp of 60.
* Grant the priest a level from the RaF account. This will make him 61, essentially.
* Respec Shadow and quest through TBC content.
* Transfer the Warrior to my main account for possible playing later.
* Use the other granted levels to create a 29 Rogue or Hunter BG twink.
Now for the main question:
I think the main thing I'll want to ensure is that the Warrior has good weapons all the way through. What are some good weapons that I will want to pick up along the way? I've got a 70 mage with a decent chunk of gold on this server so BoE blues off the AH would be the easiest. BoP blues in instances are also not out of the question as I could just run through on my Mage with the Warrior following to pick those items up.
Any other comments or suggestions you may have are also appreciated.
A general suggestion: pick 1 or possibly 2 weapon types and stick with them. If you change weapons every 6 levels and have to train your weapon skill up from 1 all over again you are going to waste a lot of time that could be used for leveling. 2 handed axes are a good option that exist as numerous drops and AH boes, or if you are going DW you could probably use 1 sword & 1 axe and keep both skills trained. Personally I prefer leveling warriors with 2 handers regardless of spec because there isn't much for +hit itemization at the lower levels.
Just a suggestion on the priest/warr combo as I finished that a couple weeks ago. Get holy nova hot keyed on the priest. You can pull 3-4 mobs with your warrior and sweeping strikes/TC/cleave while holy novaing on your priest. Makes for nice mass slaughter.
I'm not sure where to ask this question, since this thread is about leveling alts and twinking, but my question pertains more to leveling your main the expansion.
Basically i know enough people in my guild that have nothing but free time planned for the first 1.5 weeks after expansion. So we'd like to try and get in to naxx and kill stuff relatively quickly. World firsts are almost certainly out of our reach, but on bosskillers rankings, our best ever was 402nd guild in the world to kill the bear boss in ZA. Amazing, I know! I personally think some top 100 kills are within our grasp, but that sort of... notoriety? isn't the main motivation, i think we're all just interested in trying to do it really fast to say we actually did something like that once in our WoW lives.
So the first thing we have to concern ourselves with, and the purpose of this post, is how to get to level 80 and into naxx in the fastest time possible, given nothing but short sleep breaks and the odd food breaks! There are 2 main schools of thought, and i suppose a middle ground is a possibility too. We can either all go solo, and quest our little hearts out which PROBABLY gives you the most XP/hour depending on zone population, server crashes, etc. Or we can spend this entire time in groups of 5, doing nothing but instances, avoiding any sort of overcrowding issues, and probably a few world server crashes that leave us alone. Most importantly, in my opinion, we come out of instances at level 80 with far superior gear than we would have from questing, making our chances of success in Naxx that much better.
Any thoughts or comments on either method? i've never done the instance levelling thing before, and can't seem to find much info on the speed of it versus questing...
Groups of two or three doing quests together, especially kill quests, is almost certainly the fastest way. Once you accumulate all the related quests for a dungeon, running it once is worthwhile, but the exp gain from quests far outweighs just five man instance grinding now. Now, the instance servers will probably be more stable, and certainly have less competition (especially on a pvp server), but all things being equal questing is better. Don't go it alone, a group with a healing class (specced for dps, but able to heal), and preferably at least one melee and one caster will burn through mobs with virtually no down time and get nearly the same exp per mob in much less time. And don't be afraid to jump into Naxx as soon as you have enough people with a decent group comp, the gear requirements unless something changes radically are pretty minimal.
This first bit applies to Horde side, but the bottom half is useful to both Factions if you're looking to grind out your Profession while leveling.
Though I'm far from a Power Leveler, I've found on both my Druid (my main) and my Shammy (level 67, level him on the side), that Feralas was an amazing place to level in from 40-43 (my Druid didn't get the benefit of improved Dustwallow, but my Shammy did, and I'll also just throw in that it's a great place to level now). All the quests from Camp Mojache can be completed in under two hours, and they're all just south/west of the Camp. Everyone else I spoke with hated leveling in Feralas for some reason, but it's by far one of my favorite and fastest places to level.
For my Shammy, I tried to level Leatherworking alongside actual leveling...so from 50+ I hit up Un'Goro, Felwood (which is horrendous, by the way), and then just did the Cauldron Runs/AD Hand-Ins and such in Plaguelands. This got me to level 58 and maxed out my Skinning fast enough, but I found that by doing Plaguelands so fast and so late in my levels, I had missed out on Rugged Leather and eventually just went back to Winterspring to farm the damn things.
If you have any intention of leveling your profession (specifically crafting professions) while you level up, I'd highly recommend grabbing the quest rewards from Outland then just heading back to:
Winterspring (LW - there are a number of beast slaying quests, and Yeti specifically can be skinned, have a high Rugged Leather droprate, and give silver instead of Grey crap to fill your bags)
Silithus (BS/Eng/JC - Rich Thorium Veins abound, and iirc they changed all those hives to be non-elite areas) or
Plaguelands (Alch/Tailoring - Plaguebloom/Runecloth)
The drops there will help you level the professions VERY easily, and the improved Outland gear on top of the improved Vanilla WOW quest gains will make it extremely easy to hit 60/get your profession to a comfortable place. I figured that rather then leveling very quickly, I'd rather level my profession at the same time so I didn't have to go back at 70 and be bored out of my mind.
Forget about leveling your professions until you have your 60 mount. It will allow you to gather much faster and you won't get distracted on the level push.
The only exception is probably Skinning, as it is extremely fast to do. Then again, Skinning isn't exactly the hardest of skills to powerlevel, either, so...
For Herbalism/Mining, you should be bringing your white-cloth gloves enchanted with +5 i the relevant skill(s) - it will help a bit (if you're a Miner and Goblin Engineer, make sure you build the [Goblin Mining Helmet]).
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I was thinking about leveling up a new character for LK, and I was wondering what the fastest way to do it is. I believe the recruit a friend thing for 3x xp all the way to level 60 will be fastest? But my real question comes based off of that. I have a level 70 pally on a 2nd account already whom i have used to power level quite a few characters to 60+ really fast. When doing the recruit a friend will my two characters still get the bonus even if my pally is running them through instances? I think if they do this will be exceptionally faster than questing. If they do not then I think questing will be the better option to level up with.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
PS: I think I am going to level up a warlock and maybe have him duo with a priest, I think that could work well if I have to quest because the warlock can just pull tons of stuff and the priest can help toss out dots and even heal some if Drain Life + Siphon Life is not enough.
Jimbo, check this thread for that sort of thing. RAF leveling is certainly the fastest way to go and you'll be able to do it really fast with a paladin. Just make sure you don't link to the account that you're using the 70 on.
I have been itching to twink a new alt warrior quite a bit lately and all the heirloom gear plus information that I had gathered for other characters from this very thread has me thinking about just exactly how all out I can go right from level 1.
One very nice new feature is being able to add the ZG shoulder enchants (30atk power or 18 spell power) to heirloom shoulders because they don't have a level requirement and because the heirloom shoulders are soulbound even though you can trade them within your account. (Couldn't use these enchants before because the enchants require exalted reputation to acquire and automatically soulbind items on use)
There is also this enchant which is usable on level 1 items and I hadn't seen mentioned [Formula: Enchant Bracer - Healing Power] and the healing enchant from AQ20 is now 18 spell power to all schools making it better (in most cases) than the 20 spellpower to a specific school, especially on items you plan on trading between multiple alts.
I do have a few questions regarding some things though:
1) Are [Purple Turban] and [Violet Hat], which are both sold by Chameli Banaphash in Dalaran, vanilla libram enchantable? I know that the new WoTLK enchants do not work on items that have no proficiency (cloth, leather, etc) so did they flag these new items as not enchantable?
2) Im planning on levelling as DW fury. Is it best to go Crusader on MH and agi/fiery on OH or Crusader on both? (Or other enchants entirely)
3) Did they fix the guild bank exploit where you could put TBC enchants on helms and with proper timing get the enchanted version into the guild bank for an alt to pick up? (Yes I know this is an exploit and is considered bannable I'm just curious if it still works)
EDIT: Actually, didn't they remove the level requirements on levelling tradeskills? If that's true I suppose it would be best to level engineering and use one of the engineering helms right at level 5 (when you can train engineering) as they usually don't have level requirements, just engineering skill requirements.
I used librams on Nobles Monocles several times to level my toons, Karoo, so I'd bet the Turban and Hat can also take librams. If not, search the AH for a Monocle. (But I'm pretty confident you can use the Dalaran items.)
One thing to be aware of on professions is that you can't get a very high level of skill at lvl 5 or lvl 20 for that matter. I'm not sure which engineering helms you are referring to, but if they, say, required 300 skill, you couldn't use one till lvl 35, no matter who made it.
EDIT: Actually, didn't they remove the level requirements on levelling tradeskills? If that's true I suppose it would be best to level engineering and use one of the engineering helms right at level 5 (when you can train engineering) as they usually don't have level requirements, just engineering skill requirements.
They removed the level requirements for the gathering tradeskills only. Which can be nice for the associated buffs (+stam, +crit, self heal). I have read that they may be reinstating the level requirements, however.
You can use things like the [Green Tinted Goggles] as soon as your engineering is high enough, but your skill is capped at 150 until level 20, then 225 until level 30, etc.
For a reference point Karoo, I just started a new warrior yesterday (orc) with the BoA shoulders and weapon, crusader and ZG enchants on the items. You'll one or two shot every mob till level 10, and then 2 shot anything with a HS crit. Level 17 in about 5 hours /played.
[Enti's Quenched Sword] seems like a decent way to do the first 20-25lvls on a war/paladin, the damage range is actually much higher than listed(1-372 or something), so it hits pretty damn hard at very low level, and there's no level req. There's a video on WCM about it though, so I guess it'll get fixed relatively fast.
For a reference point Karoo, I just started a new warrior yesterday (orc) with the BoA shoulders and weapon, crusader and ZG enchants on the items. You'll one or two shot every mob till level 10, and then 2 shot anything with a HS crit. Level 17 in about 5 hours /played.
Question about the BoA shoulders, anyone know if the WG token shoulder enchants make the BoA shoulders un-mailable? Nothing in the description talks about binding the item.
You can't enchant anything that is BoA, in any way. No shoulder enchants, no weapon enchants/oils/runeforging/etc. i've been levelling my DK with the shoulders and arcanite reaper, which is still better than any other weapon i could get that wasn't epic. I used the ring of blood axe for a level or two before about level 66 when the arcanite reaper took a huge jump in DPS. (20 dps or so). it's sort of nice never having to worry about weapon enchants or runeforging, actually.
edit: minor correction, they CAN be enchanted as if they are a level 1 item. So the super lowbie enchants do work, sorry.
Question about the BoA shoulders, anyone know if the WG token shoulder enchants make the BoA shoulders un-mailable? Nothing in the description talks about binding the item.
I haven't seen an official post, but I do not believe it is possible to use the WG or any other new shoulder enchants. I think ZG and pre-wotlk naxx enchants are your only options.
08/29/08, 3:02 PM
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