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Old 01/07/09, 4:44 PM   #976
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Crusader isnt a bad enchant for most classes, the 15agi is not bad either casters you can get them the old worl spelldamage and it works allright. For shoulders I have tried with everything but vanilla enchants, and so far nothing sticks.
 
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Old 01/07/09, 5:23 PM   #977
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Originally Posted by Pyros View Post
[Enti's Quenched Sword] seems like a decent way to do the first 20-25lvls on a war/paladin, the damage range is actually much higher than listed(1-372 or something), so it hits pretty damn hard at very low level, and there's no level req. There's a video on WCM about it though, so I guess it'll get fixed relatively fast.
I'm not so sure. It seems like an EQ reference to me. There was an item called Inte's Sword of Death, dropped off of a mob thought to be unkillable. FoH killed it. Kreugen got the sword. Sword got nerfed.

Now we have Enti's Quenched Sword that drops off of a mob named Kreug.

I think it's intentional
 
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Old 01/07/09, 7:50 PM   #978
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Originally Posted by Fqubed View Post
Crusader isnt a bad enchant for most classes, the 15agi is not bad either casters you can get them the old worl spelldamage and it works allright. For shoulders I have tried with everything but vanilla enchants, and so far nothing sticks.
I can confirm that at least as of yesterday ZG enchants still work on heirloom shoulders, and can still be sent to other characters on your account. They take exalted Zandalar plus 15 tokens, so it'll take a little effort if you haven't been playing since vanilla WoW, but 30AP or 18 Spell power is better than nothing if you're itching to have everything enchanted.

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Old 01/07/09, 10:00 PM   #979
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Originally Posted by Niallest View Post
i've been levelling my DK with the shoulders and arcanite reaper

it's sort of nice never having to worry about weapon enchants or runeforging, actually.
Not using a runeforged weapon as a DK seems like a pretty silly thing to be doing.


And yah ZG enchants work perfectly fine on the shoulders, and Crusader among maybe some other enchants for the weapons. My warrior alt hit lvl 20 with under 10hours /played.

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Old 01/08/09, 2:55 AM   #980
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From 60-70, the Arcanite Reaper's damage (and the fact that it lets you skip silly instance farming, etc) makes it pretty worthwhile. Rune of the Fallen Crusader is the first rune that I would expect to really change that, to be honest, in terms of leveling speed.

Using the Heirloom gear on my Death Knight has made leveling pretty painless so far. The Arcanite Reaper keeps me in the "dominating mobs" end of weapon-gearing, and between it, the shoulders, and the trinket, I pretty much walk through mobs and quests at a silly pace. (I'm aware that Death Knights are good at doing that anyway, but it's a lot more pronounced than leveling my DK on beta was.)
 
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Old 01/08/09, 6:07 PM   #981
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Originally Posted by Malan View Post
For a reference point Karoo, I just started a new warrior yesterday (orc) with the BoA shoulders and weapon, crusader and ZG enchants on the items. You'll one or two shot every mob till level 10, and then 2 shot anything with a HS crit. Level 17 in about 5 hours /played.
Yeah I went for the same setup, along with 2 trinkets. I had a 250 HS crit on a boar in the valley of trials at level 2.

I wish I went with a counterweight on the axe until level 20 or so when haste rating really gets diminished, but I threw crusader on an impulse at level 1.
 
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Old 01/12/09, 4:12 AM   #982
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I am about to level another druid up from 60 onwards, at least once he gets their and refer a friend dies off, and will have a second account with a level 70 shaman and a level 80 deathknight on in order to help out. However, I have no idea what the fastest way to level would be.

My gut tells me it'd be to group him with the deathknight and just follow the DK around while he slaughters quest after quest, getting not much at all mob exp, but completing quests so quickly that it doesn't matter. Is that about right, or would I be better just leveling normally and using the shaman to heal? I would imagine once I'm leveling on mobs non-trivial to the deathknight he'll be the best option (72+?).

I do want to quest, even if there were a faster way not questing I would give up after about an hour due to boredom or take 4 times longer after spending half the time tabbed out.

Thanks a lot for any help anyway.
 
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Old 01/12/09, 6:15 AM   #983
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I would suggest you follow the DK around for all of hellfire, once that is clear you should be 62, go to nagarand and if you can use dualboxing well or have someone run the second account, tag quest mobs and have the shaman kill them. That way you get full exp and quests done, follow that up to 68 then go to Tundra level normally or with shaman healing to 72 or so and then sholazar or Zul with thre DK out of group for exp and quests compleated fast.

Also if the characters are on 3 accounts you can get the shaman and the Druid to 80 together once they get even in exp, and use the DK to help finish boost them.
 
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Old 01/14/09, 4:52 AM   #984
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I want a holy paladin for arenas and I would also like a high level druid again. I thought I'd abuse the refer-a-friend system to level as quickly as possible, but a with a little twist. I already had a second account. I only needed to resubscribe it, so I created the paladin on that and referred to the druid (third account which is a trial account). After the trial account hit 20 I needed to buy the game. Total expenses so far is €15 for resubscribing the second account and €20 for buying vanilla-wow on the trial account. That also comes with a month worth of playtime.

Since the paladin and the druid gets triple xp if they are in the same group since they are the same level. Now, I just used Zoee on my main account to boost them through instances with having the paladin and the druid on follow. I started doing Deadmines at level 10 and jumped over to the Stockades at 20. Last night I hit 30 on both characters with a total playtime of 9 hours and 11 minutes.

It's definitely something to consider if you need to level a character from scratch.

Edit: I got a private message asking me to clarify a few things, so here it goes.

Shopping list

* Two accounts, one with a high level character that's able to solo low-level instances quickly.
* Multi-boxing software. There are several options here, just google it. I use Keyclone.
* The desire to pay for another copy of Vanilla-WoW. This will be your third account.
* A computer that can handle three instances of WoW running at the same time (or use several computers if you have that).

How to to it

Go to the account management of your second account (NOT the one where you have your high level character) and refer-to-a-friend for a 10-day trial. Use the same e-mail as you're using for the first two accounts. This is important if you want to transfer characters between accounts later on.

Create the first character you want to level up on your second account. By now you should have an e-mail for your trial account. Create the second character you want to level up on your trial account.

Your second and trial accounts should now be linked. This means that they receive triple xp from mobs and quests whenever they are in the same party. Note that trial accounts can't trade, send mails or level past 20 so you might as well upgrade the account straight away. This will cost €20 and is easily done via account management. You also get a free month with this purchase, so it's really not that bad.

For the first few levels you need to level these two characters together until they are ready to be boosted through instances. This is a good time to get a feel for the multi-boxing. Set up your multi-boxing software and macros.

For alliance you should level to about 10 before you do The Deadmines, but for horde I imagine you can start Ragefire Chasm at about level 8.

Boosting

Great, you hit level 10. Now it's time to get high levelled character in action. I'm using Zoee, my level 70 mage. I invite my two level 10's to a party, and I only have two macros going. One for making them follow Zoee, and one for healing themselves when I use arcane explosion (I incidentally level both a paladin and a druid). Aggro can be a bit touchy at times when they are underlevelled for the instances, so be careful. So, yes, you got it right, the only thing I do is having them follow Zoee while I use arcane explosion to clear instances.

This is the easy bit really. I did The Deadmines from level 10-20 until I proceeded to The Stockades. To give you an idea of how fast the experience is, I did 20-23 in 30 minutes in the Stockades (three runs). I decided to stay in The Stockades to level 30 because I wanted mounts before I moved on. The plan further is to do Scarlet Monastery from 30 to about 45, then proceed to Zul'Farrak and Blackrock Depths. After BRD I imagine my level 70 mage will have a hard time, so I think I'll just do some questing in WPL/EPL until I hit 59.

Why 59? Because you can grant levels to another character with the refer-a-friend system. For every two levels a level can be granted to a lower level on that account. This means that if you have a level 30, by the time both your powerlevelled characters are 59, you can hit 60 on a third character!

Using this method I expect my paladin and druid to be 60 with about 24 hours played. It can be done faster, I'm not rushing by any means, but it's an insanely quick way of levelling through the boredom which is 1-60.

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Old 01/27/09, 9:52 AM   #985
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Greater inscription of the gladiator is an ice shoulder enchant for the BOA.
 
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Old 01/29/09, 12:55 PM   #986
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Originally Posted by Malan View Post
And yah ZG enchants work perfectly fine on the shoulders, and Crusader among maybe some other enchants for the weapons. My warrior alt hit lvl 20 with under 10hours /played.
Seems this no longer works. I successfully enchanted the plate and cloth shoulders with +SP a few weeks ago, but was unable to use the +AP ZG enchant on a BoA leather shoulder last night. It gave me the error "Target is too low level for that enchant".


Can anyone else confirm this? Also, has anyone tried enchanting the weapons recently? Are those no longer working as well?
 
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Old 01/29/09, 2:13 PM   #987
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Originally Posted by Fiola View Post
Seems this no longer works. I successfully enchanted the plate and cloth shoulders with +SP a few weeks ago, but was unable to use the +AP ZG enchant on a BoA leather shoulder last night. It gave me the error "Target is too low level for that enchant".

Can anyone else confirm this? Also, has anyone tried enchanting the weapons recently? Are those no longer working as well?
I have heard from multiple (unofficial) sources that the ZG enchants no longer work on the BoA shoulders, but haven't tried it myself. I did successfully enchant a BoA weapon with Crusader last night however.
 
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Old 01/29/09, 2:13 PM   #988
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There's a lot of comments on Wowhead (and the usual whining on the official forums) of people saying the same, so it seems they applied a min. level requirement for ZG shoulder enchants indeed.

I can't see them change weapon enchants though, Crusader has been around forever and they would have put restrictions in place a long time ago (level 19/29 twinks aren't exactly new) - the main difference to shoulder enchants is that previously you had to be level 58 or higher, and earn the shoulder enchants on the player receiving the enchant, with BoA items that is no longer the case. To my knowledge there is no official post on this, however, so speculating why they did this is moot.

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Old 02/07/09, 4:14 PM   #989
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Is there any way to get the leg enchants from BC on to level 1 gear anymore? I still have some on a level 1 character of mine but its on a different server and I do not want to transfer them over just to level up an alt
 
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Old 02/07/09, 5:53 PM   #990
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Is there any way to get the leg enchants from BC on to level 1 gear anymore? I still have some on a level 1 character of mine but its on a different server and I do not want to transfer them over just to level up an alt
What do you mean? I created a pair of BC white twink pants just a few weeks ago without issue. >Armory</.
 
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Old 02/08/09, 1:59 AM   #991
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What do you mean? I created a pair of BC white twink pants just a few weeks ago without issue. >Armory</.
It seems I messed up and was trying it with a WoTLK thread, it worked fine with a BC one. Thank you for your post, it made me go back and check
 
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Old 02/08/09, 8:21 AM   #992
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Originally Posted by evisania View Post
I have heard from multiple (unofficial) sources that the ZG enchants no longer work on the BoA shoulders, but haven't tried it myself. I did successfully enchant a BoA weapon with Crusader last night however.
[Greater Inscription of the Gladiator] Work on [Stained Shadowcraft Spaulders] Still.

So it seems they avoid new characters having to much power, but having basicly double HP for the first 20 levels is ok
 
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Old 02/09/09, 7:03 PM   #993
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I wanted to share my experience power leveling a friend's alt through strat as a Prot Pally, and see if anyone else had similar or better routines:

The two alts I was running through started at level 52. I'm in mostly 10man/heroic gear. The alts were using RAF.

We started off in the service entrance, and I pull the whole first room in to the church to aoe down. I found that there is an interesting bug with Magistrate Barthilas - if I timed it just right, I can run straight in, throw my shield at one of the undead closest to the gate he runs through, and pull him with one of the shield jumps. Even better, if the shield jump happens AFTER he runs through the gate, he'll come to attack you about a minute later, but will have trained a dozen or so elites with him. I'd assume he runs to his normal position in undead-strat, realizes a shield hit him a minute ago, and runs back for you with some friends. I was doing this pretty consistantly, and it added some good exp.

After the first pull, I would go left toward live side while the alts stayed at the beginning looting. I ran all the way to the catherdral without aggroing anything, pull all the crimson mobs in front, and run like hell chaining ALL the mobs between the cathedral and entrance. Once again, I run in to the church and AoE them all down. Blessing of Freedom is useful here if a frost bolt or a hamstring catches you. Always keep Holy Shield and Sacred Shield up, and I used Seal of Light.

Once that's all done, I run in to the dead side, and avoid aggro up until the area where the gates close you in and you need to kill a bunch of rats. Clear those rats, pull a few packs of mobs behind you, then run like hell chaining mobs, doing almost a full circle around strat until you reach the entrance again. Pop Hand of Freedom if you get webbed, and you may need to pop Divine Shield as well. Once again run in to the church and AoE them down. These mobs are a LOT more dangerous than the others as the Crypt Fiends root you in place and silence you - Hand of Freedom will remove the silence as well as the root - kill these first! Keep up Sacred Shield up at all times.

In total, this takes about 10 minutes. I'd usually take a break, help loot, or grab misc mobs to round it out to 15 minutes, that way we can keep resetting without fear of getting instance locked.

My friend reported up to 12 bars per run on each alt.

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Old 02/10/09, 4:07 AM   #994
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The Magistrate Barthilas trick has been around, if you hit him with exorcism it works as well. I can usually get him 50% of the time with it. Depending on how risky you feel you could run into live after tossing the shield and see how much you can gather before you are forced to buble. If the alts stay right at the entrance they wont get aggro/gibbed and once you start dpsing with seal of light / judge of Light at most you will be taken down to Argent Defender range.
 
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Old 02/13/09, 3:19 AM   #995
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[Sweet Surprise] have been changed to give 30 haste rating, and are extremely good for levelling low level alts. The hit chocolate is also quite good, though most of it's effect is wasted. Iron Counterweight also gives both spell and ranged haste, so you can stack absurd amounts of haste on a below level 10 character if you can use a 2H-sword, 2H-mace, 2H-axe or polearm.
 
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Old 02/13/09, 4:17 AM   #996
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I haven't seen this mentioned, but the Bind-on-Account trinkets are not unique, so you can wear two of them if you want to spend Emblems that way. Both the passive effects and the health/mana procs stack completely.

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Old 02/13/09, 10:29 AM   #997
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I am in the process of starting a hunter alf and was looking at the BoA bow. Reading Wowhead comments though, it makes the bow seem bad because of the level 1 property when applying damage to steady shot. Is it still worth it to buy though? I'm not using RAF so leveling is a tad slower.

Also, other then the bow, are the main hand weapons worthwhile for the star bonuse or better off getting a trinket?
 
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Old 02/13/09, 1:29 PM   #998
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If you have a twink stock up on the candies from the Valentine's Day even'ts like Urotas stated
 
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Old 02/23/09, 3:57 PM   #999
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Originally Posted by Zoee View Post
Why 59? Because you can grant levels to another character with the refer-a-friend system. For every two levels a level can be granted to a lower level on that account. This means that if you have a level 30, by the time both your powerlevelled characters are 59, you can hit 60 on a third character!
Wouldn't this mean you'd need to transfer one of the characters to the others' account before gifting levels? Or can they be gifted across accounts?
 
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Old 02/23/09, 5:41 PM   #1000
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Does anyone have a complete map over all discovery points in Northrend? It seems you can make quite a bit of experience discovering everything with your epic flying mount at lvl77.
 
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