Elitist Jerks
Register
Blogs
Urban Rivals
Forums
New Posts


Go Back   Elitist Jerks > Public Discussion > Public Discussion
Elitist Jerks Login

gamerDNA Login

Welcome to Elitist Jerks
We're testing some new features on the site regarding OpenID registration and coordination with gamerDNA. If you experience any issues with registering an account, please take the time to fill out a report and send it to this e-mail address. We would appreciate any assistance you could provide in making sure everything is functioning as intended. Thanks!

If this is your first visit, please be sure to check out the FAQ and the forum rules. Users must register to post and new registrations are subject to a one day "mute" period to get acquainted with the community.

Reply
 
LinkBack (51) Thread Tools
Old 12/11/07, 9:16 PM   51 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1
Tiiki
Rogue About Town
 
Troll Rogue
 
<Moo>
The Venture Co (EU)
Crazy Shadow Step Bug

Try this:

Maniq edit:

I know we don't have an official policy on this and I respect that getting this bug "out there" might make for a quicker fix, but giving exact details on how to do this to thousands of people, doesn't sit right with me.

I'm going to leave the discussion thread in, but I'm going to try and edit stuff out so that it isn't easy to replicate.

Sorry dudes.

Last edited by Maniq : 12/13/07 at 4:07 AM. Reason: Gluuuu Gluuu!
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/11/07, 9:25 PM   #2
Emeraude
Bald Bull
 
Emeraude's Avatar
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Sargeras
Ahhh geez, this might cause rolling restarts on Black Temple night
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/11/07, 9:34 PM   #3
 forostie
Show what I'm listening to
 
forostie's Avatar
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Jubei'Thos
Thats pretty...

..

Wonder which hour today this will get fixed
 
User is online.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/11/07, 9:35 PM   #4
Antumbra
Leather Warrior
 
Antumbra's Avatar
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Lothar
Definitely going to have to respec and try this out tonight... sounds fun.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/11/07, 9:37 PM   #5
Tiiki
Rogue About Town
 
Troll Rogue
 
<Moo>
The Venture Co (EU)
EDIT: Replying to Guljin

Sure, I'm not posting like "zomg amazing". It's just a fun thing to play with, and people playing is what will get Blizz to fix it.

I wish the macro actually worked like as it is supposed to. Then I could actually use it to escape properly. It's a bit mind bending to use in its current form- even if it is rather too good.

And yes... it would be good to get at least one more confirmation that it's not just me!

Also, I wonder if the new bugged Intercept works like this too?

Last edited by Tiiki : 12/11/07 at 9:56 PM.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/11/07, 10:23 PM   #6
Touf
Don Flamenco
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Ner'zhul
Actually, does Shadowstep work like bugged Intercept right now? Anywhere in LoS?
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/11/07, 10:50 PM   #7
PSGarak
Bald Bull
 
PSGarak's Avatar
 
Undead Warlock
 
Hyjal
Shadowstep doesn't path anyways, it's more of a targeted teleport. I'm assuming by bugged intercept you mean how you can run three miles around a mountain to get up the side, in which case shadowstep wouldn't follow it at all. Now, if intercept works like shadowstep that is a feat.

Also you should check out the PTR right now. If the bug is still active, see if moving to a friendly target will add a combo point.

 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 12:07 AM   #8
deanx
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Drak'Tharon
we have a rogue who's done something like 300 baron runs with this since patch...

you can do baron in about 6minutes

you can teleport across wsg with the flag (intervene works for this as well, right now)

a mouseover macro works for this too

the possibilities are limitless
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 1:56 AM   #9
Valen
Don Flamenco
 
Valen's Avatar
 
Human Rogue
 
Stormrage (EU)
Just a small question for moderators here if you don't mind. Shouldn't such posts about serious exploits get deleted? I mean this can potentially ruin a day of BGs for a group of players.

It's not a simple bug report either. We are getting an detailed walkthrough here that exactly explains how to exploit a bug.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 2:09 AM   #10
 DeeNogger
Red Coat
 
DeeNogger's Avatar
 
Undead Priest
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Valen View Post
Just a small question for moderators here if you don't mind. Shouldn't such posts about serious exploits get deleted? I mean this can potentially ruin a day of BGs for a group of players.

It's not a simple bug report either. We are getting an detailed walkthrough here that exactly explains how to exploit a bug.
The moderators can do as they please, but this isnt a huge exploit, in the grand scheme of things. This isnt an item duping exploit, nor the weird character spamming exploit that could crash the WoW client (circa Naxx I think?). Further, this is such an obvious bug that its likely to be hot fixed very fast. Have your fun tonight, chances are come tomorrow morning, its likely to be gone.

One could even argue that letting everyone know how to do the "exploit" is a sure firer way of getting it fixed quickly. Nothing like 100,000 rogues teleporting across Out Lands to grab the appropriate peoples attentions.

I write things The word of DeeNogger New Blog! 7/6/2009
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 2:49 AM   #11
 Falk
Soda Popinski
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Frostmourne
Sounds like some seriously shoddy coding. It's not dissimilar to the Mangle bug which was fixed a few patches back.

#elitistjerks
<^clicker> nice job trying to troll but you're a fucking idiot because i wasn't responding to you
<^clicker> this is the channel for serious discussion of important world of warcraft issues i believe youre looking for /b/ get lost scrub
...
<^clicker> do you act like this all the time
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 4:58 AM   #12
Kink
King Hippo
 
Tauren Druid
 
Outland (EU)
I would be really careful about using this. Blizzard already has code to automagically check for teleport hacks and this would show up very similarly I would guess.

While it may be no one has been banned for it, exploiting a BG etc would definately get a GMs attention, and after they check out some log files, I would be concerned about yer account!

Better to just read this thread, report the issue in game or on their official bug tracking forums and not ever try it. It just is not worth the risk, even if you only wanna try it out for some harmless fun.

There is light at the end of the tunnel.
The only problem is, it's often an incoming train.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 5:43 AM   #13
Tiiki
Rogue About Town
 
Troll Rogue
 
<Moo>
The Venture Co (EU)
The guy who did 600 baron runs says otherwise!

I obviously didn't report it here in the hope of rogues all over the game capping flags, but for the reasons DeeNogger outlines. People knowing about it = quicker fix.

The fact that I'm not the VERY first person to discover it (awww!) also demonstrates this. I think posting about it is the responsible thing to do, though, yes, I should probably do it on the Blizzard bug forums too. I'm just lazy.

I would be interested to hear if anyone has genuinely got banned for trying this. I can't work out how you can exploit it for the baron anyway- since you drop target outside of a certain quite short range, it has limited use outside of your party/raid. The only long ports I managed were on party members, since you can target them from anywhere. Unless I'm missing something major here (which it sounds like I am...!)?
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 5:57 AM   #14
Starfire
Secretly Blackfire
 
Night Elf Priest
 
Dragonblight
Bring a priest for mind vision? Although... really... It' Stratholme, between sprint and vanish you could probably get to Baron in the time it would take to mind-vision hop or shadow-hax-step to him.

I think the most pressing thing in terms of balance is intervene flags in Warsong Gulch. Hmm. On second thought, I wonder if a rogue can use this to get to some treasure chests in some instance or something that s/he otherwise normally wouldn't be able to get too.

Eitherway, kudos on reporting. This is one way to get it fixed, we all know how slow the bug reports forums can be.

P.S. On a related side note, I love how Blizzard patch notes occasionally give away bugs/exploits before they're fixed =p
 
User is online.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 6:13 AM   #15
Prinsesa
Bald Bull
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Echo Isles
I had a vision of 40 Rogues queueing for AV, one of them stealthing to Vann/Drek, then the other 39 Shadowstep to him and just instagib the general.

"We do want Sanctuary to be the tanking seal"

- Ghostcrawler
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 8:19 AM   #16
koaschten
Maniq is awesome.
 
koaschten's Avatar
 
Troll Rogue
 
Nazjatar (EU)
Anyone yet tried to Shadowstep from Shattrath to Stormspire? Should be possible with a wolf or moth from Terokkar Forest in the focus and a party member in target standing at Stormspire. *whistles innocently*

Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler
We have a change for Vanish in place for 3.3. You will get to try it out soon (tm). As promised, if it proves a significant buff to rogues, we may have to compensate elsewhere. Just because it hasn't worked as intended doesn't mean it will be balanced when it does.
 
User is online.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 9:03 AM   #17
Goggles
does nothing
 
Goggles's Avatar
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Earthen Ring (EU)
I assume you could use this to get into TK instances before you hit 70 which means you can get Karazhan attunement done before 70 just like druids.

Not actually a member of Refusion on Burning Blade.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 11:14 AM   #18
 songster
Chief Passenger
 
Schizzle
Gnome Rogue
 
No WoW Account (EU)
Originally Posted by koaschten View Post
Anyone yet tried to Shadowstep from Shattrath to Stormspire? Should be possible with a wolf or moth from Terokkar Forest in the focus and a party member in target standing at Stormspire. *whistles innocently*
Better yet - can you Shadowstep from Ironforge to Shattrath? Does party targeting work across servers? How about a rogue who doesn't have TBC - what happens if they try to Shadowstep to Outlands or (say) Ghostlands? Can you Shadowstep into an instance from outside it? Will it respect raid IDs?

Note: I suggest anyone testing the above should do so on the PTR, to make clear they're testing, not exploiting.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 11:24 AM   #19
 Rizzen
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Kilrogg
Outside of instances, there seems to be a maximum distance you can shadowstep onto someone. It seemed that I had to be within about 200-300 yards of my target. Instances seem to work differently though, I took a venture into an uncleared Karazhan, Shadowstepping through the back door and traveling all the way up to Prince Malchezaar (Stepping on Aran -> Consortium vendor -> Prince >_>). Unfortunately, the Chess event wasn't spawned (I'm guessing because Curator or Opera wasn't dead).
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 11:27 AM   #20
Vanadi
Piston Honda
 
Vanadi's Avatar
 
Undead Rogue
 
Al'Akir (EU)
I just shadowstepped from right outside of Shattrah to someone in my party in hellfire peninsula. I am wondering if the stormspire->black temple teleport can be done but I don't currently feel like risking my account.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 11:36 AM   #21
Keline
King Hippo
 
Keline's Avatar
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Mazrigos (EU)
Originally Posted by Valen View Post
Just a small question for moderators here if you don't mind. Shouldn't such posts about serious exploits get deleted? I mean this can potentially ruin a day of BGs for a group of players.

It's not a simple bug report either. We are getting an detailed walkthrough here that exactly explains how to exploit a bug.
The past has proven time and time again that publically posting severe exploits in detail is the ONLY way to have Blizzard react immediately. Unfortunately.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 12:01 PM   #22
Nite_Moogle
Not Helpful.
 
Nite_Moogle's Avatar
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
I can't work out how you can exploit it for the baron anyway
It probably involves using the Magistrate to bypass the first chunk of the zone, then hopping past the gate, then in to Rivendare's room.

Originally Posted by CheshireCat
Eh, my nostalgia goggles aren't as good as they used to be.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 2:08 PM   #23
Trazhenko
Don Flamenco
 
Troll Rogue
 
Illidan
I tried this on the test realm with the ogres above shattrath. The combo point is added to your focus target, not the one you port to.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 2:45 PM   #24
 Vectivus
kill it with fire
 
Vectivus's Avatar
 
Human Mage
 
Black Dragonflight
Originally Posted by Trazhenko View Post
I tried this on the test realm with the ogres above shattrath. The combo point is added to your focus target, not the one you port to.
That's screwed up. The only reason this should be happening in the first place is because the ability (Shadowstep) doesn't recognize your focus as its target. If you're adding a CP to the focus target, but still 'stepping' to your primary target, I can't even begin to imagine how poorly coded this must be.

Originally Posted by Philondra View Post
Don't try to inject any of your fancy-schmancy "logic" into my baseless rage.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 12/12/07, 3:26 PM   #25
Systim
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Auchindoun
I just tried this outside Ironforge. Looks like it's been fixed. I was getting the correct "Out of range" error.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Elitist Jerks > Public Discussion > Public Discussion

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Zul'aman - a step in the right direction? Healranktwo Public Discussion 179 12/15/07 7:13 AM
The new LFG: One Step Forwards... Copernic Public Discussion 68 12/12/06 9:29 PM
Imagine how crazy this could be.. Vazu The Dung Heap 3 09/18/06 8:14 AM