It wasn't anything particularly tricky. You just had to have someone in combat with Broodlord who wasn't on the whelps' aggro list to keep him from leashing after the rogue vanished. Attacking Broodlord doesn't aggro the whelps, as you're supposed to be fighting him with a huge number of the supression room spawns up. If it wasn't for the leash, a rogue and hunter could probably duo Broodlord now due to the zonewide combat pulse.

This alterac exploit annoys me. Especially since you can only solo-qeue there. Hope that they fix it or at least start handing out some one or three day bans for that. Why is it so hard to fix that ?

I think they just didn't think about it when they were changing the graveyard respawn order (cave is the last GY where you can respawn). I have no idea if it can be hotfixed but because it's nothing game breaking and can be easily reported by other players, i don't see a reason. That EotS blink bug was here for what ? half a year?

Disable self-killing abilities like DI and Hellfire while you have the prep buff. They disabled my mage's favorite "Help me summon, please" trick. Can't blink in EotS before the bubble is gone. Not a hard fix at all. Shouldn't even require a patch (at least it doesn't seem like it would).

Probably needed to add a client side "no-pass invisible wall", or something similar.

I have been doing a LOT of AVs on my mage recently to get them geared up for the Arena and I have only once seen a similar exploit.

At the start of the map everyone is in their respective starting cave except one guy who was at Stormpike GY. I play horde, so it was a horde player who was there. When I asked him how he was there, he said he had no idea and genuinely seemed confused as to how it happened.

So I think people might still be capping bunkers and towers during the preperation phase, but it does not necessarily mean they are hackers, it might just mean that there is some bug in the code that occasionally causes them to respawn outside of their starting zone.

But you are totally glossing over every other aspect of software development. There are 4 aspects to software: resources (e.g. people), time, quality and features.

Yes, you can develop in parallel, *if* you have the resources. Quality has to be there (or you get REALLY bad fixes), and adding new developers usually *lowers* quality (initially), not raises it.

Then you have the feature set. Is something else a higher priority, for example, another hack/exploit/bug/expansion/etc?

Then comes time. Assuming you have the people, and the time to do a Quality job, and its the highest priority item, the item could take days, weeks, or even months to fix. Unless we're sitting in a room with those developers, and have the technical skill and codebase in front of us, we're not in a position to say how long an item will take to implement (armchair quarterbacks need not apply).

The best way to deal with issues is to report them to Blizzard FIRST. Give Bliz time to come up with a reasonable solution. Publishing it to the public, as stated, makes exploits available to more people, which only creates a crisis, and then you get low-quality fixes.

The other side of going public is how the publicity impacts the perception of Blizzard. Banning 1 person for speed hacking is a different perception than banning 100. Banning 1 guild for abusing an instance has a different perception than banning 100.

For example, banning 1 guild gives the impression to other guilds (and players) that "if you do this, you will get banned". Ban 100 guilds, and the impression is "Damn blizzard. they could have just fixed the issue". Focus has gone from the issue to the pros and cons of the solution.

Plus, individually reporting an issue gives Bliz time to see how widespread the issue is. That's why I report every AFKer in a BG. If I see someone speedhacking, I report them. Abusing the pillars in a Arena, I report them. Even standing on a battlemaster is a reportable/actionable offense (it's "interfering with the game environment"), but I rarely report this.

I don't have any trouble with unintended use of in-game mechanics (pulling bosses before preceding mobs, soloing Mechanar chests, wallwalking) etc. I think it encourages people to think creatively and use their imagination.

I think the thing to do is draw a line in the sand. Report anything that crosses it. I think there will always be grey areas, and things that are more important to one person than another. But let Blizzard decide, because it gives them the most precious of all commodities: Time.

Buddhist aka Devin Davidson posted a guide to wall walking on gameriot.com. Hopefully this is followed by some fixes, as it shows some tricks in way that is easy to imitate for average players.


Although the links seem not to work anymore. Perhabs Blizzard forced them to be removed somehow.

Wall Walking Rogue By Buddhist

Edit: This link works at the moment:
WarcraftMovies.com - World of Warcraft Movies

I was in AB yesterday and the other team had capped 3 bases by the time our gate opened, I raised a ticket and it was probably the quickest response I had from a GM, its just a shame I had forgotten to note the servername as well as the playername when I took a screenshot of it as he then came across as if they couldn't do anything without that info.

One idea is to have zone wide debuffs applied to everyone outside the starting area before the match begins. It could reduce the durability of all gear to 0 and give an two hour debuff reducing all stats significantly. Same could be applied to wall walking areas, although wall walking without taking advantagses like carrying the flag in warsong shouldn't be punished to harshly.

Warsong Gulch is one the most used parts of the game and still this thing doesn't get fixed for years now.

Buddhist chose to quit WoW and to leave this video as his last message. I think as soon as it is spreading around we will see changes incoming.

There is another issue I recently got to know. An old friend of mine (we met over christmas in my parents home town) plays WoW very rarely on a shaman. He has a foot pedal from one of this mech robot games and configured it in a way that by hitting this pedal it performs an 180* turn. So he uses this the following way:

- He jumps
- He turns 180 degrees
- He uses frost shock
- He again turns 180 degrees
- He lands and keeps walking the very same direction as before

By doing this (he is playing a shaman at level 4X) he is close to uncatchable and can kite more than one enemy. These 180* turns could be used for landing undodgeable kidneys by just jumping through the enemy and many classes using instants.

Is this considered legal ?

Yea spinning while jumping is easy enough, anyone who doesn't click should be able to do it Infact using mouse would be superior to a 180 degree pedal since it allows you to control exaclty how you want to land, etc.

There's an in-game camera control bind to flip the camera 180 degrees. Your friend probably just has that bound to his footpad.

There's a difference between rotating the camera and rotating your character.

No he made quite an effort for this and measured excactly that this would turn 180*. This depends also on the screen resolution etc.

I doubt anything would come of that. To be honest, circle strafing and jump-shotting are easily trained and very basic abilities for anyone that has played first-person-shooters in the past.

Pretty sure we've all been exploiting since 2004 if this isn't legal - at least by using the mouse to turn (not camera). I remember hunters did this like mad in Beta.

I'd go as far as saying, it's required for finishing the hunter class quest...

If someone needs to use a wheel pedal to do a 180 jump I'm going to laugh at them rather than call it an exploit.

Right-clicking and moving your mouse by any fraction will instantly face your character to wherever the camera is facing.

1. Jump
2. Press 180 degree camera flip macro
3. Right-click mouse, move a little, toon will now face 180 degrees to match camera
4. Press Frostshock button
5. Press 180 degree camera flip macro
6. Right-click mouse, move a little, toon will now face 180 degrees to match camera
7. Land on ground

This is not an exploit. You could just as easily do this with good reflexes and a really high mouse sensitivity (so that you can perform the spin without having to make a very wide mouse movement).

I recently got into the Netherwing Dailies and started flying around looking for nodes. Well 3 yellow circles popped up on the mini-map, so I figured I'd go hit the nodes.

Turns out the nodes are surrounded by enemies and a 72 elite that pats the area completely in around 15 seconds. I fly down to hit a node that I figure I can time properly and fly away right when death's at my face, but I mess up and land inside one of the crystal formations. Turns out in certain formations, and in certain parts inside them, you can successfully mine nodes and hit Netherwing Eggs (yes, I've done it) without being hit by the enemies.

They'll aggro you, but you'll evade dodge them until they glitch and wipe aggro, which is when you can mount off and fly away. It's not super helpful, but it is pretty stupid to have an egg spawn somewhere that requires a group or an exploit to get to. Plus, I want my egg!

Or just use a trackball, doesn't require you to move your arm all over your table. It also has nothing todo with reflexes, only timing.