Retro weapons - Nightfall - Page 7

Prinsesa · 04/28/08, 9:46 PM

Unless we see the incoming 2.4.2 change being rolled back (unlikely), I think this thread has run its course. Testing on the Protection Paladin revealed a proc rate of less than 0.1% on a level 68 Basilisk (1 proc in 1084 hits).

Vandermonde · 04/29/08, 1:27 AM

Originally Posted by Dolce

It would appear this change is just like the other changes when TBC was released to more or less end the need/reliance on vanilla WoW weapons/armor.

One can only hope they put in a weapon in WotLK to replace it at the 80 level of raiding, just pray it isn't a boss drop (i.e. something that takes the spot of a useful loot drop), a trash drop from a blue dragon would be awesome (hint hint).

I wouldn't hold your breath on them making another heavily scaling, borderline impossible to replace item. At least, not on purpose XD

Prinsesa · 04/29/08, 4:22 AM

Originally Posted by Vandermonde

I wouldn't hold your breath on them making another heavily scaling, borderline impossible to replace item. At least, not on purpose XD

QFT. They were pretty emphatic on removing it from the [Slayer's Axe] TBC quest reward much earlier on, and probably figured nobody would bother with [Nightfall] until the resurgence of doing everything to maximize raid DPS on Brutallus (I've heard of precasting [Commander's Badge]s prior to the pull to squeeze out some damage from the minion).

Maax · 04/30/08, 6:07 PM

An enchant similar to the nightfall proc would be ideal, and wouldn't tie you to a legacy weapon.

Nezralix · 04/30/08, 6:51 PM

They certainly encourage raid synergy in a number of cases, but I wouldn't be surprised if they want to avoid the model of forcing players to significantly cripple their performance for "the greater good". This is certainly one of those cases where the personal impact is large, creating situations where you want such a player in your raid, but nobody wants to *be* that player.

Vandermonde · 04/30/08, 7:19 PM

Originally Posted by Maax

An enchant similar to the nightfall proc would be ideal, and wouldn't tie you to a legacy weapon.

That's a nice idea actually. Due to the difference in opportunity cost we're proably talking about 1% instead of 15, but that would actually be fairly cool if balanced well.

Cranberry · 05/03/08, 4:15 PM

Speaking purely theoretically, while I realize that the actually damage boost from Nightfall is negligible, I wonder how much of a difference it would make in the sense of who is doing the damage. For example, a prot pally's threat would be upped impressively by it, and spriests would return more hp/mana.

Gunn · 05/22/08, 11:44 AM

I used this last night on Kaz'Rogal

Not one single proc out of 32 swings

Looks like I'm vendering it :-(

Xav · 05/22/08, 1:26 PM

Originally Posted by Gunn

I used this last night on Kaz'Rogal

Not one single proc out of 32 swings

Looks like I'm vendering it :-(

Yeah, I used it on illidan a few weeks back after the nerf (phase 2, on the elementals) and didn't get it to proc on either of them for the whole duration of the phase, spamming hamstring/whirlwind. It's bad and completely useless now.

Caligula · 05/22/08, 1:31 PM

One of our off tanks on Brutallus tried it out last week as well. Not one proc the entire fight.

Time to vendor.

• Snowy · 05/22/08, 1:31 PM

And with that, this thread is really at an end.

Caligula · 05/22/08, 1:40 PM

Originally Posted by Snowy

And with that, this thread is really at an end.

I'd go as far as to say night has fallen on the usefulness of this weapon.