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Old 02/01/08, 2:02 PM   #16
Juice
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This isn't complicated. If 25 people step into a raid and get 1 token from the boss, it takes 25 weeks to gear the raid. If the boss drops 2 tokens, 13 weeks. And now with 3 tokens it takes 9 weeks.

It never takes "a few weeks" unless you can't count or are operating based on some hidden conditions not transperant to your readers.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:03 PM   #17
Nezralix
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Originally Posted by Playered View Post
"In 2.4, Spell Haste will reduce the global cool down on spells, down to a minimum of 1 second. It won't apply to melee and ranged abilities though however."
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Took them long enough on that one.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:03 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Vectivus View Post
Considering most guilds only kill Vashj/Kael the half-dozen (or less) times they have to for attunements, a 50% increase in number of tokens is pretty substantial.
I think it is a good change, it just doesn't address the bigger issue of 30+ kills on a boss and we still have 0 Paladin boots off Naj'entus, etc. Anyway enough of this talk, let us revel in the glory of 2.4 infos!

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Old 02/01/08, 2:05 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Juice View Post
This isn't complicated. If 25 people step into a raid and get 1 token from the boss, it takes 25 weeks to gear the raid. If the boss drops 2 tokens, 13 weeks. And now with 3 tokens it takes 9 weeks.

It never takes "a few weeks" unless you can't count or are operating based on some hidden conditions not transperant to your readers.
It is even more than that because token drops are not balanced between the class groupings, and will not be evenly distributed.

If you have been farming Illidian since October this is almost meaningless to you. The rest of us are really happy.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:06 PM   #20
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WoW Forums -> Mage Buffs in 2.4?

Added to the OP.

Originally Posted by Theras View Post
Frankly I don't know how you non-Nordic people can breed in good conscience.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:08 PM   #21
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Spell Haste - GCD should make it a much more desirable stat for a lot of builds (FoL Pallys anyone?), looking forward the mass theorycraft changes. Gotta love patch note days.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:08 PM   #22
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Yea I really don't get the point of that change. Set pieces have been going to offspec or destroyed for months now. But we're still farming for the non-set items. It would be much more useful to get a re-slotting of the non-set pieces and an extra non-set slot per boss.

Edit: damn this thread is moving fast. But yes I agree for the guild powering through T5 towards T6 attunement it's a big help. Applying the change to T6 however doesn't really help (as the T6 set items bosses are the final bosses of their respective instances anyway) and just accelerates the current discrepency between T6 set completion and T6 non-set completion time.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:09 PM   #23
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I hate saying that, but listing changes isn't worth anything without linking the source.

How to get an Android Authenticator on your PC. (updated feb'11)

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Old 02/01/08, 2:10 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by koaschten View Post
I hate saying that, but listing changes isn't worth anything without linking the source.
WoW Forums -> Forum Index
There ya go.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:10 PM   #25
Playered
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Its not meaningless, we've still only had 5 Vanquisher drops from Illidan and we killed him around Oct/Nov I believe.

Not to mention that even if the gear drops were perfectly balanced you would most likely have more of some classes than others, resulting in needing more of one and less of another... oh and you will also more than likely have something in the range of 30+ players to gear up not 25 - can we end this line of useless crap?


Im curious as to if the gems will end up being simply BoP however, Blizzard have a nack for being unspecific and then ending up with not what was expected.

As to people crying about sources, you could expect that the random crap fake stuff tends to be kept on the WoW forums and is not really posted here, or atleast not as its own topic. Maybe you could spend a few mins per day looking at blue trackers, wow boards, mmo-champion, wor, etc to be able to get the evidence you so badly need but are so lazy to find yourselves.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:10 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by koaschten View Post
I hate saying that, but listing changes isn't worth anything without linking the source.
True, many sites are heavily loaded right now though. Wowblues is gone "too many connections". The sources will follow and I am sure incorporated into the first post

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Old 02/01/08, 2:10 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by koaschten View Post
I hate saying that, but listing changes isn't worth anything without linking the source.
They're all from Blizzard posts on the General (US and EU) forums. I won't put anything in the OP that hasn't been specifically substantiated and confirmed. A mess of links and quotes can follow in the 20+ incoming pages.

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Frankly I don't know how you non-Nordic people can breed in good conscience.

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Old 02/01/08, 2:11 PM   #28
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"Maybe being able to use Fear Ward while in Shadow Form would help? Yeah, I like this idea, we'll roll with it in the next patch."

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Old 02/01/08, 2:11 PM   #29
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Fear Ward castable in shadowform in 2.4

Also, fishing daily:

Anyway, along the lines of fishing we're adding a new daily quest for fishing. Once 2.4 goes live (or once the PTRs are up) you'll want to visit "the mysterious old man" near Silmyr Lake outside of Shattrath. He's sure to offer treasures beyond your wildest dreams... or ramble on about how they had to color their own margarine during the war. Either/Or.

Old 02/01/08, 2:11 PM   #30
Tower
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Hm, so they balance melee haste rating to be "in line" with magic haste, now they substantially buff magic haste? Would love haste to increase energy regen rate...

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