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Old 03/01/08, 7:58 PM   #3551
Starfire
Honorary Toastr
 
Night Elf Priest
 
Dragonblight
Originally Posted by f1reburn View Post
On which part of the Teron trash does Mass Dispell come in handy? I don't think my guild has ever used it on Teron trash.
Frost traps. Of course you can like... avoid them.
 
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Old 03/01/08, 7:58 PM   #3552
Mekasha
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Mage
 
Black Dragonflight
Originally Posted by f1reburn View Post
On which part of the Teron trash does Mass Dispell come in handy? I don't think my guild has ever used it on Teron trash.
The hunter type mobs in those packs have a large radius frost nova with a fairly long duration (think at least 25 seconds).
 
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Old 03/01/08, 8:00 PM   #3553
flyingtoastr
Appliance of the Skies
 
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Human Paladin
 
Draka
Originally Posted by f1reburn View Post
On which part of the Teron trash does Mass Dispell come in handy? I don't think my guild has ever used it on Teron trash.
The frost traps from the hunters can be annoying as melee, but as long as you dispel the tank there is nothing special about it.
 
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Old 03/01/08, 8:18 PM   #3554
Wodahs
Don Flamenco
 
Human Rogue
 
Lightbringer
Originally Posted by f1reburn View Post
On which part of the Teron trash does Mass Dispell come in handy? I don't think my guild has ever used it on Teron trash.
Traps rooting your raid is dispelled via mass dispell, in our raids.
 
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Old 03/01/08, 8:26 PM   #3555
Eylirria
Piston Honda
 
Human Mage
 
Skywall
Originally Posted by Axl_Stukov View Post
Regarding that "MC" the fact the sound file is labeled "mirror" makes me think moreso he'll create a mirror image of random raid members, which would be infinitely more fun then Mind control again
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You are probably right. And I'd find it really fun, and an excellent "retard" check if they added a debuff on the people being mirrored, making them be attackable by their own raid. The joy of getting even with people that stupidly wiped you in the past.
 
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Old 03/01/08, 10:16 PM   #3556
gia
Don Flamenco
 
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Orc Death Knight
 
Crushridge (EU)
The tournament PTR is now up and running, you can create any character and it will be automatically level 70. The starting zones have all the trainers and many vendors for each armor type, gems, enchants, hunter pets, there's also an npc that hands you 5000g if you ask him and another that teleports you to the starting areas of the other races.

I'm still trying to buy my armor though, the lag is pretty insane.

edit: Here's a screenshot of the enchantment vendor, pretty nifty: http://i26.tinypic.com/4rywqg.jpg
I wont be surprised if enchants will be tradeable this way by the time WOTLK comes, this shows that the system to do it is already in place.

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Old 03/01/08, 10:22 PM   #3557
Lysara
Von Kaiser
 
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Arathor (EU)
Originally Posted by gia View Post
The tournament PTR is now up and running, you can create any character and it will be automatically level 70. The starting zones have all the trainers and many vendors for each armor type, gems, enchants, hunter pets, there's also an npc that hands you 5000g if you ask him and another that teleports you to the starting areas of the other races.

I'm still trying to buy my armor though, the lag is pretty insane.
Blizzard has made a page for the tournament by the way, you can see all the trainers and vendors there, and a full list of what items are available:

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/ba...ment/index.xml
 
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Old 03/02/08, 12:02 AM   #3558
Pyros
Always carry a white flag
 
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Undead Death Knight
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Originally Posted by gia View Post
The tournament PTR is now up and running, you can create any character and it will be automatically level 70. The starting zones have all the trainers and many vendors for each armor type, gems, enchants, hunter pets, there's also an npc that hands you 5000g if you ask him and another that teleports you to the starting areas of the other races.

I'm still trying to buy my armor though, the lag is pretty insane.

edit: Here's a screenshot of the enchantment vendor, pretty nifty: http://i26.tinypic.com/4rywqg.jpg
I wont be surprised if enchants will be tradeable this way by the time WOTLK comes, this shows that the system to do it is already in place.
Well the enchantment thing has been in for a long time, iirc old world librams used that system already, same as all the armor kits which are just +armor enchants. It's just a matter of balancing the implementation it seems, they want, for some reason, to keep people having to find an enchanter to do their enchants instead of crafting and selling them on the AH. Might be a balance for the fact enchanters were making the most money out of any profession(guess it's JC now though).
 
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Old 03/02/08, 12:31 AM   #3559
Cwealm
Piston Honda
 
Human Mage
 
Eitrigg
Originally Posted by Caligula View Post
Have you tried to run regular Arcatraz lately? Unless you're 5 boxing you could spend hours or days looking for a party (Hint: I know this because my fiancee is currently stuck in this position). The attunement to Kara is far outdated. I'd say it should have been removed when the SSC/TK attunement was removed. It's completely pointless now and serves no purpose. Especially with the release of ZA, small guilds trying to gear up people to progress through there also have to go back to multiple level 70 five-man instances for a simple key fragment. It's a waste of time.
I rolled an UD mage on Ysondre, and between there and on Mug'thol, where I transferred to, it took 4 weeks to get keyed for Kara. People in T5 and T6 don't run instances for keying.
 
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Old 03/02/08, 5:39 AM   #3560
LiquidHAL
Piston Honda
 
Human Mage
 
Hyjal
Originally Posted by Cwealm View Post
I rolled an UD mage on Ysondre, and between there and on Mug'thol, where I transferred to, it took 4 weeks to get keyed for Kara. People in T5 and T6 don't run instances for keying.
Shrug, I had my alt keyed for Kara about two hours after I hit 70. Trying to weasel my alt in greens and blues into a guild run when everyone just wants some quick badges is the hard part.

Personally I have fun destroying 5-mans on my main, I've helped guildies get keyed in the past. If your server really has that low a population then you should try to convince guildmates to help, there's always a few shards in it at the very least. They're also needed for the trial of the naaru quests if that'll get people to do it, heroics are nerfed enough so that one badly geared member won't be an issue.
 
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Old 03/02/08, 6:31 AM   #3561
Maax
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Tauren Druid
 
Nathrezim
I'm pretty sure the removal of the kara attunement is just to make it easier to code the checks when someone tries to summon an unattuned person into the instance. I wonder if they will have to make special cases to prevent summoning unattuned people into ony's lair or naxxramus, the only 2 places left you can't zone in without attunement. MC and BWL the attunement is just for the shortcut, actually zoning in from BRD or UBRS doesn't need the attunement.

Devs: Our nerfs will block out the sun!
Druids: Then we will tank in the shade.
 
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Old 03/02/08, 8:29 AM   #3562
 Turik
Sartharion - Now in 3D!
 
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Human Paladin
 
Ner'zhul
Originally Posted by Maax View Post
I'm pretty sure the removal of the kara attunement is just to make it easier to code the checks when someone tries to summon an unattuned person into the instance. I wonder if they will have to make special cases to prevent summoning unattuned people into ony's lair or naxxramus, the only 2 places left you can't zone in without attunement. MC and BWL the attunement is just for the shortcut, actually zoning in from BRD or UBRS doesn't need the attunement.
If true, that would essentially remove any future attunements whatsoever.


Implications aside, I doubt the reason is technical.
 
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Old 03/02/08, 9:43 AM   #3563
Midnight
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Ysera (EU)
Originally Posted by Maax View Post
I'm pretty sure the removal of the kara attunement is just to make it easier to code the checks when someone tries to summon an unattuned person into the instance. I wonder if they will have to make special cases to prevent summoning unattuned people into ony's lair or naxxramus, the only 2 places left you can't zone in without attunement. MC and BWL the attunement is just for the shortcut, actually zoning in from BRD or UBRS doesn't need the attunement.
Even not taking ony and naxx into account, every heroic instance still needs this check and I doubt they´ll lift that requirement too just to make the summon coding easier.
 
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Old 03/02/08, 11:32 AM   #3564
Meuble
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Conseil des Ombres (EU)
Dunno if it had been posted before, but I got a nice bug today:
[img=http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7325/wowscrnshot030208164925lf6.th.jpg]

Two auras with only one pal. I don't know how or why it happened tough.

edit: And I've got huge aggro issues, can't say why.

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Old 03/02/08, 11:39 AM   #3565
Rane
King Hippo
 
Orc Warlock
 
Magtheridon (EU)
Originally Posted by Meuble View Post
Dunno if it had been posted before, but I got a nice bug today:
[img=http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7325/wowscrnshot030208164925lf6.th.jpg]

Two auras with only one pal. I don't know how or why it happened tough.
That's something that can happen if you transfer with an aura active. Dieing should "resolve" it .
 
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Old 03/02/08, 6:06 PM   #3566
Soralin
Von Kaiser
 
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Dwarf Paladin
 
Blackrock
I recently transferred my hunter. Now, he's got Aspect of the Hawk and Aspect of the Viper, and Mineral/Herb tracking all at once. Since he's a farmer he's unlikely to die - I initially thought the server reset would fix it - but I'm in luck!

I saw the Black Elekk Mount - is it purchasable by 30 AB/AV/WSG Marks as the others are? Or something different?
 
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Old 03/02/08, 6:18 PM   #3567
Illundai
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Talnivarr (EU)
I just went and checked, can buy the War Elekk for free from the Mount Vendor. I presume it'll be 30 marks of each.

Funny note about it. It has the Hawkstrider icon when you mount it and it sounds like one too.

 
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Old 03/03/08, 6:13 AM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #3568
Fafhrd
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Vek'nilash (EU)
Summoning people into instances now cost 2 soul shards. Don't know if it's a bug or intended. Made raiding (or attempting to) the last couple of days pretty painful.
 
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Old 03/03/08, 7:11 AM   #3569
Mideci
Great Tiger
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Stormrage
I can state with relatively near certainty that the removal of Kara attunement is not about technical difficulty in checking for it. It's about the fact that the expansion is long in the tooth and nearly everyone getting in is an alt. It's just tedium to attune alts and they are making it easier for people to gear them and fill Kara groups at this point. Be thankful.

That said, we Ony attuned an alt the other day and someone always forgets their Drakefire. How about removing that attunement.
 
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Old 03/03/08, 7:22 AM   #3570
Mideci
Great Tiger
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Stormrage
Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
Clearly a nerf to Zul'jin bear phase -- more catering to casuals, and it sickens me.
I'm confused as to how you do the Zul'jin bear phase that this constitutes a "nerf" where that term has much meaning. We move the healers and tank in range of the mass dispel and no one else. They all get mass dispelled now under the current spell's 5-man limit, everyone else takes a little hit and a naps for a few seconds. There is zero risk of anything bad happening as things currently stand.

Yes, with 10-man mass dispel you can have everyone dispelled and keep DPS-ing. But since the bear phase is already the most trivial one to handle arguably (once everyone is in position, no one needs to move; there is no burst damage on anyone not tanking; etc). I can't believe this change has anything to do with that phase or that it really constitutes much of a nerf. I'm sure bear will end faster with 10-man mass dispel, but what kills casuals -- and heck, us sometimes -- at Zul'jin is eagle and lynx. When I occasionally get grabbed for a Zul'jin PUG on my priest, people die during phase 1 and again eagle and lynx, still not bear.

But maybe I'm missing something here.
 
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Old 03/03/08, 7:52 AM   #3571
 Cadfael
Playing Nelf until Tauren Priests
 
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Perenolde (EU)
Originally Posted by Mideci View Post
But maybe I'm missing something here.
He's just pulling your leg and you fell for it.

The change's main motivation most likely comes from a certain effect of the Felmyst/Madrigosa encounter in Sunwell Plateau on 2.4 PTR.
 
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Old 03/03/08, 8:21 AM   #3572
norg
Mike Tyson
 
Korgoth
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No WoW Account (EU)
No more jokes like that please Gurg. :<
 
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Old 03/03/08, 8:58 AM   #3573
Zifna
Don Flamenco
 
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Tauren Shaman
 
Bloodscalp
Originally Posted by norg View Post
No more jokes like that please Gurg. :<
omg, Gurg's jokes getting nerfed?? Yet more catering to casuals, pretty sickening imo...
 
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Old 03/03/08, 10:27 AM   #3574
Talibb
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Death Knight
 
Bronzebeard
I have a question in regard to the new alchemist stones. If it's been mentioned elsewhere, I apoligize, I couldn't find it.

The recipes I saw linked indicated that someone had learned them. I can't find them anywhere on the PTR, but I read a comment that the recipes are discovered. Can anyone confirm this?
 
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Old 03/03/08, 10:57 AM   #3575
richard
Piston Honda
 
Human Death Knight
 
Kazzak (EU)
Anyone on PTR realm unable to zone in Sunwell? On EU PvE it keeps saying you have to be level 70 and in a raid group to enter, despite meeting those conditions.
 
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