The new patch doesn't have the Alt-Click bug/feedback report anymore.
This indicates it's the last patch before release, has been that way the last patches.
Also, someone on rogue forums claimed Shiv was made undodge/parryable again, like it has been the last year.
Can anyone confirm/deny that?
We have our guilds yearly Las Vegas get-together planned for next week, with roughly 30 people attending. This means I can confirm the patch will indeed go live next Tuesday. Perfect timing!
We have our guilds yearly Las Vegas get-together planned for next week, with roughly 30 people attending. This means I can confirm the patch will indeed go live next Tuesday. Perfect timing!
I'm sure you can find a netcafé and happily raid together xD. In all seriousness, guess we'll find out if it's patchweek or not, I was more guessing for one more week after this tuesday/wednesday since I was quite certain they'd have at least a week in between PTR shutdown and live, but hey it wouldn't surprise me if they skip it.
The Launcher has been updated with a patch 2.4 "preview".
I think its fairly safe to say 2.4 is done and coming out within the next two weeks. Pitty there are still so many class issues that won't be resolved until the next expansion.
The Launcher has been updated with a patch 2.4 "preview".
I think its fairly safe to say 2.4 is done and coming out within the next two weeks. Pitty there are still so many class issues that won't be resolved until the next expansion.
We have our guilds yearly Las Vegas get-together planned for next week, with roughly 30 people attending. This means I can confirm the patch will indeed go live next Tuesday. Perfect timing!
Well, seeing as the first three bosses aren't gonna be a huge deal (extensive PTR testing, OMGWORLDFIRSTS won't count for much) and the gate to get past Felmyst won't be open for weeks after 2.4 goes live...you're not screwed too badly.
This has almost certainly been said before, but it bears re-iteration.
It seems obvious to me that the patch has been timed as an `blocking` move against the Age of Conan release date.
Don`t get me wrong here, this is not some fan-boy criticism. I haven`t even looked at AoC so I have no idea whether it is good or bad. But from the Blizz point of view, they have released no major new content for some time now and something is needed to prevent excessive `churn` over to another game.
On that subject, can anyone comment on whether AoC is a contender?
I would be utterly unsurprised to find that WotLK is on an internal schedule for a similar move against WarHammer Online.
This has almost certainly been said before, but it bears re-iteration.
It seems obvious to me that the patch has been timed as an `blocking` move against the Age of Conan release date.
Don`t get me wrong here, this is not some fan-boy criticism. I haven`t even looked at AoC so I have no idea whether it is good or bad. But from the Blizz point of view, they have released no major new content for some time now and something is needed to prevent excessive `churn` over to another game.
On that subject, can anyone comment on whether AoC is a contender?
I would be utterly unsurprised to find that WotLK is on an internal schedule for a similar move against WarHammer Online.
I've been following it and it seems to be great fun and obviously offer better PVP than WoW. For PvE? We'll see. From what I've gathered from different places, it's shaping up great but still has some annoying bugs and some designs got dropped because "they weren't fun" (like getting sent to hell because you messed up your spell weaving [spell weaving is comboing multiple spells, perhaps with multiple players, into one, massive spell]).
The blocking move is obvious and not surprising. Blizzard might claim it isn't so, but I'm sure they've got some pressure on them by their parent company.
To be honest, this patch doesn't bring anything to "counter" aoc, considering aoc selling point is pvp(keeps, siege etc) while this patch is purely pve content, with yet another AV rework(I don't even know what changed this time). Also following the discussions on another board that is more filled with beta leaks and such, it seems aoc will need a miracle to even dent wow's market at all. Game isn't ready for a release, but they don't have a choice anymore. Obviously, still a bit time left on beta so things can still change, and you can question how accurate those leaks are, but well that's the general tendency.
Yeah, this patch is not going to change peoples minds. Sunwell may be released and offer some fun, but people know what awaits them on the other side of Sunwell. Many more months without content, if they had planned to try or play Age of Conan already Sunwell will have done nothing to persuade them to stay. Age of Conan is out 23rd of May, Sunwell will be cleared by then. Only thing to stop that from happening is keeping those gates closed, but even then I doubt anything other than Kil'Jaeden should be left on that date.
Does anyone know how moch gold a boss drops 2.4? Heard some rumors ranging from 20g each to 50g each member. Baghteridon drops about 500 gold (so 20g per raidmember). I'm curious how much drops vom BT/MH bosses
This has almost certainly been said before, but it bears re-iteration.
It seems obvious to me that the patch has been timed as an `blocking` move against the Age of Conan release date.
Don`t get me wrong here, this is not some fan-boy criticism. I haven`t even looked at AoC so I have no idea whether it is good or bad. But from the Blizz point of view, they have released no major new content for some time now and something is needed to prevent excessive `churn` over to another game.
On that subject, can anyone comment on whether AoC is a contender?
I would be utterly unsurprised to find that WotLK is on an internal schedule for a similar move against WarHammer Online.
Considering the release date for AoC was pushed back to May, it does nothing to "block" AoC. I have heard alot of horrible things about AoC beta but having not played it myself I have no clue of the current state of the game in beta. I doubt it will even dent WoW's numbers.
1) the "of the shuttered sun" title can be bought at any time, provided that you are exalted and pay for it of course, or only in a specific timeframe, say the building of the statue (as it was brought up in this thread)?
2) the alchemy lab isn't open on EU as far as i know, can someone from the US confirm that there is indeed absolutely nothing about the rumored gem transmutation? Reading that quest again makes no sense to me if there isn't one.
More likely they would use Season 4 as an "AoC block", the patch coming out 2 months before AoC can hardly be considered to matter much, most people will have seen everything they want in 2.4 before AoC is out.
I doubt they are really worried about AoC though. It seems to be shaping up quite different from WoW, and reports have been pretty bland.
What we are more likely to see is the PR machine for Wotlk to speed up around AoC release.
For 2.4. Just because they don't hope to release a 2.5 patch before Wotlk, it doesn't mean we wont see some 2.4.X patches with class changes etc.
It seems obvious to me that the patch has been timed as an `blocking` move against the Age of Conan release date.
I would be utterly unsurprised to find that WotLK is on an internal schedule for a similar move against WarHammer Online.
Well I don't know much about AoC as I don't see it as anything special in terms of end-game, but 2.4 is just more of old stuff, maybe beside TTR. It cannot really compete with anything. I mean probably patch 3.0 will bring real changes with new talents etc. But that will be close to wotlk.
Possible release dates:
1) AoC - late May 2008
2) WAR - late June 2008
3) WOTLK - late July/August 2008
Means if AoC or WAR will be good people will not even come back to check out wotlk, well not that fast at least, and when they do they will have much higher expectations. If, on the other hand, those games fail then prepare to play WoW until next Blizzard MMO or THE-ONE-AND-ONLY Starcraft 2 at least
1) the "of the shuttered sun" title can be bought at any time, provided that you are exalted and pay for it of course, or only in a specific timeframe, say the building of the statue (as it was brought up in this thread)?
2) the alchemy lab isn't open on EU as far as i know, can someone from the US confirm that there is indeed absolutely nothing about the rumored gem transmutation? Reading that quest again makes no sense to me if there isn't one.
To answer your first question, the NPC that sells the title doesn't appear until you take the main building(The Harbor), and he's at the top floor, after that you just need exalted to see the actual quest.
To answer your second question, there was nothing about gem transmutation except for taking little uncommon gems and making 1 rare gem.
Originally Posted by Fugazor
3) WOTLK - late July/August 2008
I don't know why you seem to think that.
Alpha leaks for the Burning Crusade didn't hit the public until later July/early August, and then it was just a few talents, and new starting zones, the game still took months after the initial leaks to get into a beta, and finally release at the end of January.
We're almost at April, and there's really been nothing save a few updates on the WotLK about 3 of the zones, in addition Blizzard isn't just making new races, they're designing an entire new class, balance balance balance. Until we get all of the zones published on the website, and leaked alpha talents I wouldn't expect WotLK for a summer release. Hell Kalgan was talking about spell concepts for Warlocks a few weeks ago, and those weren't even set in stone.
To answer your first question, the NPC that sells the title doesn't appear until you take the main building(The Harbor), and he's at the top floor, after that you just need exalted to see the actual quest.
To answer your second question, there was nothing about gem transmutation except for taking little uncommon gems and making 1 rare gem.
Yes I know what you're talking about, there is no other transmutation other then what I mentioned, she sells Epic gems for 15 badges, and all of the Hyjal patterns for 100gold each or something ridiculous.
Yes I know what you're talking about, there is no other transmutation other then what I mentioned, she sells Epic gems for 15 badges, and all of the Hyjal patterns for 100gold each or something ridiculous.
Guess it's time to dump alchemy then!
Thanks for the info.
Guess it's time to dump alchemy then!
Thanks for the info.
Well if you have no desire for the pretty nice trinkets then I guess there's no *gain* for staying one like there potentially is for other professions, I'ld just gather the mats up for whatever other profession you consider taking then train it up once you get the pattern or rep for the thing you want.
To answer your first question, the NPC that sells the title doesn't appear until you take the main building(The Harbor), and he's at the top floor, after that you just need exalted to see the actual quest.
To answer your second question, there was nothing about gem transmutation except for taking little uncommon gems and making 1 rare gem.
I don't know why you seem to think that.
Alpha leaks for the Burning Crusade didn't hit the public until later July/early August, and then it was just a few talents, and new starting zones, the game still took months after the initial leaks to get into a beta, and finally release at the end of January.
We're almost at April, and there's really been nothing save a few updates on the WotLK about 3 of the zones, in addition Blizzard isn't just making new races, they're designing an entire new class, balance balance balance. Until we get all of the zones published on the website, and leaked alpha talents I wouldn't expect WotLK for a summer release. Hell Kalgan was talking about spell concepts for Warlocks a few weeks ago, and those weren't even set in stone.
The thing is, TBC required massive new coding and all that jazz. We got sanctuary zones, heroic instances, badge of justice system, and all the new rep/zones. Blizzard has done all these now once, and can easily replicate them again.
A few new things in WOTLK are seige weapons, a new class (which in my opinion seems to be far less work then adding two new races/and a class to those races, involving tons of starting quests, lore etc) Remember how many problems Horde paladins/Dreanei paladins had at the very start of TBC. Lots of quests didn't recognize them, or refused to drop the required item. In WOTLK, Deathknights start past level 60, so you skip over 60 levels of work involves, thats a massive time saver for Blizzard.
If Blizzard was smart, they would release WOTLK without any 25man raids, except for save the Onyxia one. People don't need to be ready for a real raid the day the expansion is released. They can simply release it within a month (asking a lot for blizzard to release something within a month)
With a 10man, a mini 25 man, all the heroics and 70 instances, not to mention leveling, collecting the best in slot badge of justice rewards before the raiding, crafting, farming, people literally have tons to do before the real raiding begins. This was a fault with TBC, releasing to much raid content to fast, and it wasn't even ready at release to begin with.
If Blizzard actually expects to make maximum profit off out the expansion, they better release it before Warhammer. People will flock to warhammer because its a huge competitor, and if it has any kind of stickyness, they won't return to WoW much.
The thing is, TBC required massive new coding and all that jazz. We got sanctuary zones, heroic instances, badge of justice system, and all the new rep/zones. Blizzard has done all these now once, and can easily replicate them again.
A few new things in WOTLK are seige weapons, a new class (which in my opinion seems to be far less work then adding two new races/and a class to those races, involving tons of starting quests, lore etc) Remember how many problems Horde paladins/Dreanei paladins had at the very start of TBC. Lots of quests didn't recognize them, or refused to drop the required item. In WOTLK, Deathknights start past level 60, so you skip over 60 levels of work involves, thats a massive time saver for Blizzard.
If Blizzard was smart, they would release WOTLK without any 25man raids, except for save the Onyxia one. People don't need to be ready for a real raid the day the expansion is released. They can simply release it within a month (asking a lot for blizzard to release something within a month)
With a 10man, a mini 25 man, all the heroics and 70 instances, not to mention leveling, collecting the best in slot badge of justice rewards before the raiding, crafting, farming, people literally have tons to do before the real raiding begins. This was a fault with TBC, releasing to much raid content to fast, and it wasn't even ready at release to begin with.
If Blizzard actually expects to make maximum profit off out the expansion, they better release it before Warhammer. People will flock to warhammer because its a huge competitor, and if it has any kind of stickyness, they won't return to WoW much.
You're making a lot of assumptions there. Above all else, this is Blizzard we're talking about, they've been doing WoW for 3 years now, and patches and content always take much longer then they should regardless of how much experience their developers have had at it for this amount of time. Every aspect of Blizzard is about slow, long, delayed and drawn out progress. I used to think that yes, maybe Blizzard timed these things in such a fashion from a business standpoint to compete in the industry, after dealing with Blizzard for 10-13 years or so since Warcraft: Orcs & Humans was released my entire outlook on the company has changed and I see Blizzard for what it is, which is it's own entity with it's own timetables and it's own mindset about it's games.
To make a long story short, Blizzard having experience putting out an expansion for WoW will no more effect the speed at which WotLK comes out then the experience they had putting together Warcraft 1-3, and Starcraft will have on getting Starcraft 2 out the door. I would not be shocked if WotLK didn't come out until November/December.
03/20/08, 6:16 PM
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