2.4 PTR and Patch Notes - Page 18

♦ Praetorian · 02/09/08, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Carnivean

All the Epic Items Illundai posted are similar to the drops in Blade Edges Mountasin, where you need the random drop of the zone + Asphexis or how ever they are named, now on the Island, you need the random drop + Sunmote, but nobody has any Idea what a sunmote is.

Knowing the conecpt of the Blade Edges Epics I would assume, that you can get Sunmotes while farming the daily quests, maybe like doing 50 - 100 daily for one sunmote or something like that...

They are imho most definately not drops of the sunwell, much more likely there are randomd rops in the whole zone or atleast in magisters terrace.

You're nuts if you think those are anything but Sunwell 25-man loot. They're all far superior to t6 gear.

Todorka · 02/09/08, 10:17 PM

Priest dps bracers should be swapped with the warlock ones.Otherwise the itemization seems not bad at all!My guess is that bosses will drop 1 or 2 "sunmotes" to prevent the random factor and with the recent changes 3 tokens eh?

Tyrana · 02/09/08, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Praetorian

Proof? All the armor values match armor values on ivl 141 gear.

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3...8031730dv9.jpg

♦ Praetorian · 02/09/08, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tyrana

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3...8031730dv9.jpg

Interesting. That's definitely an ilvl 141 armor value. Perhaps the items aren't finalized.

Rokh · 02/09/08, 10:19 PM

Yeah something is weird with the ilvl and armor values; notice that the Paladin Healing helm is superior to Tier 6 in terms of stats, with less armor, while the Tanking Paladin Helmet is also superior to Tier 6, but has more armor. As it should be, but not in the past, at least.

Hodor · 02/09/08, 10:19 PM

Is there any possibility one of you guys could get a look at the "old" Tier 6 Items to see if they have changed the stats on those items? specifically the Enhancement Shaman set (Skyshatter Harness).

s[orc]ery · 02/09/08, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Krazen

Interesting, as the Malefic pieces have the same armor as the ilvl 141 items in BT/Hyjal.

If you compare the Boots of the Malefic with Slippers of the Seacaller, there's such a substantial upgrade that it couldn't possibly be ilevel 141. The Armor staying the same is simply a case of Blizzard correcting an itemization problem.

Slippers of the Seacaller
162 Armor
+25 Stamina
+18 Intellect
+18 Spirit
Yellow Socket
Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Spell Damage
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 29.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 44.

Boots of the Malefic
162 Armor
+42 Stamina
+26 Intellect
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +2 Spell Damage
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 24.
Equip: Improves spell haste rating by 29.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 50.

Gauss · 02/09/08, 10:21 PM

Current T6 set pieces are 146. Is that 5 item levels of difference? Who knows.

Oaken · 02/09/08, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Praetorian

Interesting. That's definitely an ilvl 141 armor value. Perhaps the items aren't finalized.

I ran the feral druid items through a mitigation spreadsheet - while the armor levels are the same as T6 (except the chest which is considerably lower), the stats make them a huge upgrade over T6.

E.g., properly gemmed while the Mask of the Furry hunter has the same 611 armor, you get another 17 agility and 9 stamina out of it, and another 30 crit rating. All for only the cost of 7 strength.

♦ Cadfael · 02/09/08, 10:23 PM

Weather effects:

Illundai · 02/09/08, 10:25 PM

Some screenshots of the Island and the NPCs I talked about.

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/g...008_031357.jpg

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/g...008_031402.jpg

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/g...008_031452.jpg

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/g...008_031524.jpg

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/g...008_031539.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1202610284

Shadout · 02/09/08, 10:27 PM

I get teleported back to Sunstrider when swimming

♦ Praetorian · 02/09/08, 10:27 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if additional vendors (like the badge one) open up as you build the camp.

Jubling · 02/09/08, 10:27 PM

There's a Shattered Suns Quartermaster at the staging area ashore with the new Void Sunder, metagems, chest enchant patterns, PvP head glyph, ilevel 121ish blue weapons and epic necklaces for reputation and gold.

Masnie · 02/09/08, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Oaken

Drysc mentioned there was T6-equivalent badge loot off a vendor in Sunwell Isle - I take it this is not that vendor? This all looks like rep loot and there is no fist weapon which he indicated there would be. Is there a badge vendor you've missed?

I'm getting the impression that the SSO only has a small camp on that island so far, while the rest is crowded with Demons/Undead/Crazed Sentinels/Evil BEs. Once you complete the quests the camp grows, and maybe the badge vendor won't appear untill a certain progress level has been reached. (just speculation though)

♦ Cadfael · 02/09/08, 10:27 PM

The new option screen:

Sunchips · 02/09/08, 10:29 PM

Going out on a limb here...Does anyone else think it's possible that the 3 new pieces of tier 6 are the "tier 6 quality badge loot" mentioned on the WoW forums? I know it seems ludicrous, but it really wouldn't surprise me anymore.

StormGust · 02/09/08, 10:29 PM

the t6 quality vendor could very well be the Vendor selling the News t6 Items. (waist, wrist and feet)

or the NPC selling/trading those Itemlvl 159 Items. >.<

Vodrin · 02/09/08, 10:30 PM

The items required for the items of vendor 'Yrma' are unseen before also correct?

I'm assuming they drop in sunwell and you trade them in for a different piece here to help with 'off-spec' loot. Every piece required an item of the same armor type but say handing in a cloth damage bracer for a cloth healing bracer.

Server just died so i can't check more but it looks like a nice way to combat unwanted items.

And now the server has crashed so not much else to check.

Rasputin · 02/09/08, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sunchips

Going out on a limb here...Does anyone else think it's possible that the 3 new pieces of tier 6 are the "tier 6 quality badge loot" mentioned on the WoW forums? I know it seems ludicrous, but it really wouldn't surprise me anymore.

MMO Champion has screenshots of the vendors. The T6 pieces are purchased from a vendor with a token that has a wrist armor graphic. I have to believe this means they are tokenized raid drops.

♦ Cadfael · 02/09/08, 10:31 PM

There are nagas on the beach who have enslaved murlocs. I don't seem to be able to find any NPC giving a daily quest or even looking like he would. Then again, I'm only level 1

rhea · 02/09/08, 10:31 PM

that took a while for you to realise. Sorry for the funny and useless post... well

As for armor values.. maybe they are making it more static per type and agility increases armor also.

♦ Praetorian · 02/09/08, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Vodrin

The items required for the items of vendor 'Yrma' are unseen before also correct?

I'm assuming they drop in sunwell and you trade them in for a different piece here to help with 'off-spec' loot. Every piece required an item of the same armor type but say handing in a cloth damage bracer for a cloth healing bracer.

Yeah, sounds to me like that's their solution to disenchanted loot and the dreaded RNG. If you get four cloth healing gloves in a row instead of cursing your luck you just exchange the extra pairs for nuker gloves and carry on?

Moogul · 02/09/08, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Vodrin

The items required for the items of vendor 'Yrma' are unseen before also correct?

I'm assuming they drop in sunwell and you trade them in for a different piece here to help with 'off-spec' loot. Every piece required an item of the same armor type but say handing in a cloth damage bracer for a cloth healing bracer.

Yeah, what this guy said. Illundai said that you needed a blue drop + sunmote, but it's actually an epic drop - just of a different kind.

For instance, you can turn in some warrior tank shoulders and a sunmote and get some warrior dps shoulders out. Or turn in paladin healing shoulders and a sunmote for prot paladin shoulders. Seems like a new take on token loot.

Illundai · 02/09/08, 10:32 PM

Pardon for the mistake with the colours, I'm colourblind so I mixed up blue & purple. They are definitely Epic.