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Old 02/14/08, 10:51 PM   #1276
rhea
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Human Rogue
 
Dunemaul (EU)
If you compare it to power word: shield is it really that bad?

Sure I'm not a paladin so I don't know.

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Old 02/14/08, 10:56 PM   #1277
Playered
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Tauren Druid
 
Twisting Nether (EU)

One way to do it...

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Old 02/14/08, 11:00 PM   #1278
Argat
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Cenarion Circle
That. Wow.

That's an amazingly huge nerf to arena druids.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:00 PM   #1279
Vema
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Moonrunner
In the most recent PTR patch:

-Orc and Tauren inns now have unique background music.
-Updated all the base character models, haven't quite figured out why yet.

New Crafted Items:
"Figurine - Seaspray Albatross" (8 Eternium Bars, 2 Seaspray Emerald, 8 Primal Mana)
Use:Restores 1000 mana over 29 Seconds and Summons a Seaspray Albatross

"Figurine - Empyrean Tortoise" (8 Khorium Bars,2 Empyrean Sapphire, 6 Dawnstone)
Use:Gives 164 Dodge Rating for 18 Seconds and Summons a Empyrean Tortoise

"Figurine - Khorium Boar" (8 Khorium Bars, 2 Pyrestone, 8 Primal Earth)
Chance On hit: Summon the Khorium Boar to fight for you for 30 sec.

"Figurine - Crimson Serpent" (8 Eternium Bars, 2 Crimson Spinels, 8 Primal Fire)
Equip: +13 Damage and Healing
Use: Gives 135 Damage and Healing for 18 seconds and Summons a Crimson Serpent

"Figurine - Shadowsong Panther" (4 Hardened Adamantite Bar, 2 Shadowsong Amethyst, 8 Primal Shadow)
Equip: +99 Attack Power
Use: Gives 124 Attack Power for 8 seconds and Summons a Shadowsong Panther.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:01 PM   #1280
Puretide
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Draenei Shaman
 
Frostmane
The placeholder statements of Kael'thas in the 5 man have been replaced by actual statements.

Also the magic dampening field (from the mage-guard trash) animation is far more distinct.

While talking about the 5 man, is it me or does it seem particularly difficult for a 5 man for people in blues/kara epics (ie people who actually need the drops), specifically kael'thas. With how hard the dot hits, I don't see how its realistically possible for a healer to keep everyone up (paladin in particular)

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Old 02/14/08, 11:02 PM   #1281
Vodrin
Don Flamenco
 
Tauren Druid
 
Magtheridon (EU)
Took me a while to see the difference there, shame they've gone so far as to give a useless bonus. I can't remember the last time i cast a non-swifted healing touch.

Was also saddened not to see the wisdom flask would go in with the pure death etc. flasks after the recent intellect buff.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:02 PM   #1282
Los
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Coilfang
Originally Posted by Arthurion View Post
i justed did some tests with holy shock on ptr.

it seams it isnt just made stronger, it is also affected by blessing of light now.

with bol blessed my holy shock crits do around 50 heal more.

My shock crit for about 2.8k @ 2.2k +heal selfbuffed (blessing of light) and 3k with zul'aman trinket popped.

and there is a bug that my divine favor isn't consumed by a crit holy shock, so everytime i holy shock i crit ^^



EDIT:

i'm not sure if bol realy affects holy shock now. maybe someone else can test around with it too ^^

My Holy shocks with and without BoL were only about 13 healing apart, so i would say its not effected by BoL.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:02 PM   #1283
vorda
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Jaedenar (EU)
Originally Posted by rhea View Post
If you compare it to power word: shield is it really that bad?

Sure I'm not a paladin so I don't know.
Besides holy shock being a rather deep talent, not proactive like pw:s and having a pretty long cooldown (where pw:s is just target bound cooldown).

But you'r not a paladin so you couldnt know. Better to move the holy shock discussion to the healadin topic.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:05 PM   #1284
Mode
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Troll Shaman
 
The Venture Co
Ele shaman PvP 4-piece bonus was nerfed from 70% to 50% reduction on lightning bolt.

Last edited by Mode : 02/14/08 at 11:05 PM. Reason: Clarity.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:06 PM   #1285
Illundai
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Orc Death Knight
 
Talnivarr (EU)
Originally Posted by Playered View Post

One way to do it...
Wow. I'm speechless. Honestly, who the hell casts HT?

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Old 02/14/08, 11:07 PM   #1286
jangotar
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Tauren Warrior
 
Krag'jin (EU)
balance druid 4 piece bonus was changed to "your wrath casts have a chance to reduce the cast time on your next starfire by 1.5 sec"

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Old 02/14/08, 11:08 PM   #1287
Playered
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Twisting Nether (EU)
Originally Posted by Illundai View Post
Wow. I'm speechless. Honestly, who the hell casts HT?
Aparently its a Resto Druids most favored ability, being on both T6 and S3 x4 bonuses now and all.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:09 PM   #1288
flyingtoastr
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Human Paladin
 
Draka
4-piece Paladin healing bonus for PvP sets was changed. It was "Reduces the cooldown on your Hammer of Justice by 10 seconds." It is now:



They really want us using that darn spell it seems.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:10 PM   #1289
Cuer
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Tauren Druid
 
Earthen Ring
A few of the changes to item set bonuses, some mentioned above:
-- Druid Resto 4 piece Arena/PVP set bonus changed from +15% outdoor movement speed, to "The casting time on your Healing Touch spell is reduced by 0.25 sec."
-- Druid Balance 4 piece Arena/PVP set bonus changed from +15% outdoor movement speed, to "Your Wrath casts have a chance to reduce the cast time on your next Starfire by 1.5 sec." The new reputation-based set has "Your next Starfire takes 1.5 fewer sec. to cast." as the 4 piece set bonus, no idea why they're different.
-- Paladin healing 4 piece Arena/PVP set bonus changed from "Reduces the cooldown of your Hammer of Justice by 10 sec." to "Increases the healing from your Holy Shock spell by 30%."

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Old 02/14/08, 11:11 PM   #1290
ildon
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Undead Priest
 
Whisperwind
Originally Posted by Vema View Post
In the most recent PTR patch:

-Orc and Tauren inns now have unique background music.
-Updated all the base character models, haven't quite figured out why yet.

New Crafted Items:
"Figurine - Seaspray Albatross" (8 Eternium Bars, 2 Seaspray Emerald, 8 Primal Mana)
Use:Restores 1000 mana over 29 Seconds and Summons a Seaspray Albatross

"Figurine - Empyrean Tortoise" (8 Khorium Bars,2 Empyrean Sapphire, 6 Dawnstone)
Use:Gives 164 Dodge Rating for 18 Seconds and Summons a Empyrean Tortoise

"Figurine - Khorium Boar" (8 Khorium Bars, 2 Pyrestone, 8 Primal Earth)
Chance On hit: Summon the Khorium Boar to fight for you for 30 sec.

"Figurine - Crimson Serpent" (8 Eternium Bars, 2 Crimson Spinels, 8 Primal Fire)
Equip: +13 Damage and Healing
Use: Gives 135 Damage and Healing for 18 seconds and Summons a Crimson Serpent

"Figurine - Shadowsong Panther" (4 Hardened Adamantite Bar, 2 Shadowsong Amethyst, 8 Primal Shadow)
Equip: +99 Attack Power
Use: Gives 124 Attack Power for 8 seconds and Summons a Shadowsong Panther.
Not sure where you got those stats, but here are the ones on mmo-champ: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...weltrinket.jpg

These stats actually make them seem useful.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:14 PM   #1291
Puretide
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Draenei Shaman
 
Frostmane
Originally Posted by Cuer View Post
A few of the changes to item set bonuses, some mentioned above:
-- Druid Resto 4 piece Arena/PVP set bonus changed from +15% outdoor movement speed, to "The casting time on your Healing Touch spell is reduced by 0.25 sec."
-- Druid Balance 4 piece Arena/PVP set bonus changed from +15% outdoor movement speed, to "Your Wrath casts have a chance to reduce the cast time on your next Starfire by 1.5 sec." The new reputation-based set has "Your next Starfire takes 1.5 fewer sec. to cast." as the 4 piece set bonus, no idea why they're different.
-- Paladin healing 4 piece Arena/PVP set bonus changed from "Reduces the cooldown of your Hammer of Justice by 10 sec." to "Increases the healing from your Holy Shock spell by 30%."
Add to that, ele set bonus is only 50% pushback resistance from 70%. Enhance is unchanged, unkown about resto.

Edit: screen shot (sorry about size)

Last edited by Puretide : 02/14/08 at 11:23 PM.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:16 PM   #1292
Vema
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Moonrunner
Originally Posted by ildon View Post
Not sure where you got those stats, but here are the ones on mmo-champ: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...weltrinket.jpg

These stats actually make them seem useful.
Those seem a lot better. The stats I posted were from the spell.dbc file.

Originally Posted by Puretide View Post
Add to that, ele set bonus is only 50% pushback resistance from 70%. Enhance is unchanged, unkown about resto.
Resto fourpiece is unchanged as well.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:18 PM   #1293
flyingtoastr
Bald Bull
 
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Human Paladin
 
Draka
Originally Posted by Puretide View Post
Add to that, ele set bonus is only 50% pushback resistance from 70%. Enhance is unchanged, unkown about resto.
Resto is still "Reduces the CD of Grounding Totem by 1.5 seconds".

EDIT: bad grammar.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:20 PM   #1294
Illundai
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Orc Death Knight
 
Talnivarr (EU)
Originally Posted by Puretide View Post
Add to that, ele set bonus is only 50% pushback resistance from 70%. Enhance is unchanged, unkown about resto.
Edit: Beaten.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:28 PM   #1295
Los
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Coilfang
Vial of the Sunwell has had its cooldown increased to 2 minutes, up from 1 minute.


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Old 02/14/08, 11:32 PM   #1296
Teza
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Orc Death Knight
 
Al'Akir (EU)
New Model added to the game: Tuskar Male (WorldofRaids)



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Old 02/14/08, 11:33 PM   #1297
heel
Great Tiger
 
Dwarf Priest
 
Mannoroth
Resilience now reduces the effects of mana-drain spells by up to 25%.
Sure, sounds good. Mana drains were getting a bit too powerful, especially in 5s.

Drain mana (Rank 6) now drains 300 mana every 1 sec from the target. (Was 200)
????

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Old 02/14/08, 11:38 PM   #1298
 sadris
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Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by heel View Post
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Warlock mana drain was the least mana burnt per second of all three drain options. (550 for MB, 222 for VS)

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Old 02/14/08, 11:40 PM   #1299
heel
Great Tiger
 
Dwarf Priest
 
Mannoroth
Originally Posted by sadris View Post
Warlock mana drain was the least mana burnt per second of all three drain options. (550 for MB, 222 for VS)
It also doesn't have a cast time or a cooldown, and a Warlock is a much less attractive target to attack than a Priest.

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Old 02/14/08, 11:40 PM   #1300
Dorlog
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Priest
 
Moonglade (EU)
Originally Posted by Puretide View Post
The placeholder statements of Kael'thas in the 5 man have been replaced by actual statements.

Also the magic dampening field (from the mage-guard trash) animation is far more distinct.

While talking about the 5 man, is it me or does it seem particularly difficult for a 5 man for people in blues/kara epics (ie people who actually need the drops), specifically kael'thas. With how hard the dot hits, I don't see how its realistically possible for a healer to keep everyone up (paladin in particular)
Without wanting to spoil the fight for anyone, I just came of my first complete normal run, with a t6 holy paladin, shadowpriest, feral druid, and blue/kara mage/hunter. It was not easy, and the paladin felt powerless. 5 wipes and then a lot, lot of cross healing eventually killed him with 3 people alive.

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