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Old 02/09/08, 1:57 AM   #126
Argium
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Originally Posted by Liths View Post
If you ask me, getting a legendary weapons as part of the last dungeon in an expansion is completly worthless. More inventory space and no hassle with ammo while leveling is probably the best feature you could get with it, you know it wont be better than the drops from the first 10 man dungeon you clear a month after WotLK is released anyway. I'm really hoping that there will be a caster/healer legendary early on in WotLK, atiesh 2.0 would be awesome. Something that I'd actually get to use in a real raid and not just as a teleporting device when twinks want phat lewts from karazhan.
I disagree, the bow will definately last into the next expansion and having a whole other bag free [for hunters] while levelling would be invaluable.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:02 AM   #127
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Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
Some references to quests:
Quest - Sunwell Daily - Dead Scar Bombing Run
Quest - Sunwell Daily - Ship Bombing Run
Oh dear, more bombing runs.
I see Fel Kaliri in my future.

Those spoiler abilities seem interesting though, + Holy damage? I guess Ret Paladins will be happy.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:09 AM   #128
Vwtifuljoe
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I have to say that I think the picture of the legendary bow is fake. I really want to believe its real, but I don't think so. If you look at the image that has been linked, the "the" in the name is lower case. In the past, with items such as Jin'rhok The Great Apocalypse, the "the" is capitalized. Also, the possessive on "Stars" seems wrong. If I'm not mistaken, it should be "Star's" instead of "Stars'".

Also, the ammo concept makes me wonder. There is the spell ID ("46699 : Requires No Ammo - Thori'dal generates magical arrows when the bow string is drawn. Does not use ammo."), but it doesn't make sense to me. Ammo takes up an inventory slot, and even the created ammo from the Kael fight must be created then put in the paper doll slot. It would make much more sense seeing a something where the bow creates an arrow, then immediately uses it.

Not only that, but how would this "magical arrow" function? Obviously if it's created, then it must exist as an item somewhere. Does it have a dps increase like all other ammo in the game? Or would it's tooltip read like "Increases damage by 0 dps"?

I would really like for this bow to be real, but I'm holding my breath at the moment.


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Old 02/09/08, 2:09 AM   #129
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Originally Posted by Axl_Stukov View Post
Oh dear, more bombing runs.
I see Fel Kaliri in my future.
Guess this mean we will be able to use use our flying mounts out there, or are you able to use flying mounts in the Blood Elf area already?

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Old 02/09/08, 2:13 AM   #130
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Originally Posted by baghwan2 View Post
Guess this mean we will be able to use use our flying mounts out there, or are you able to use flying mounts in the Blood Elf area already?
Not necessarily (in fact, I highly doubt it): there were bombing run quests in Hellfire Penninsula (and of course the bombs in Halaa) that were done from a flight taxi.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:13 AM   #131
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Originally Posted by Vwtifuljoe View Post
I have to say that I think the picture of the legendary bow is fake. I really want to believe its real, but I don't think so. If you look at the image that has been linked, the "the" in the name is lower case. In the past, with items such as Jin'rhok The Great Apocalypse, the "the" is capitalized. Also, the possessive on "Stars" seems wrong. If I'm not mistaken, it should be "Star's" instead of "Stars'".
In regard to the 'issue' of naming, I can't help but think fondly of the time when I was running aroundwith Ritssyn's Ring of Choas for quite a while, it eventually got fixed to be [Ritssyn's Ring of Chaos]. So imagine something like that slipping through to live, its not folly to believe that the lowercase "the" is accidental, likewise for possessiveness.

"For nothing can seem foul to those that win." - Henry IV, Pt.1 Act 5

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Old 02/09/08, 2:16 AM   #132
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Considering several other things that were from those same series of Sunwell Loot screenshots has been datamined and confirmed to be in the patch files (the graphics, and spell info), I really don't see any reason to believe it's not real. Part of it was already confirmed to be real. It certainly appears to have been an early leak.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:16 AM   #133
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Yes, I forgot about that ring. One of my friends complained about the typo all the time before they fixed it. Unfortunately, I don't think that anyone has any answers about the other aspects of the item that I pointed out.


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Old 02/09/08, 2:17 AM   #134
Argium
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Originally Posted by Vwtifuljoe View Post
I have to say that I think the picture of the legendary bow is fake. I really want to believe its real, but I don't think so. If you look at the image that has been linked, the "the" in the name is lower case. In the past, with items such as Jin'rhok The Great Apocalypse, the "the" is capitalized. Also, the possessive on "Stars" seems wrong. If I'm not mistaken, it should be "Star's" instead of "Stars'".

Also, the ammo concept makes me wonder. There is the spell ID ("46699 : Requires No Ammo - Thori'dal generates magical arrows when the bow string is drawn. Does not use ammo."), but it doesn't make sense to me. Ammo takes up an inventory slot, and even the created ammo from the Kael fight must be created then put in the paper doll slot. It would make much more sense seeing a something where the bow creates an arrow, then immediately uses it.

Not only that, but how would this "magical arrow" function? Obviously if it's created, then it must exist as an item somewhere. Does it have a dps increase like all other ammo in the game? Or would it's tooltip read like "Increases damage by 0 dps"?

I would really like for this bow to be real, but I'm holding my breath at the moment.
Well they must've added code specifically for this weapon. Otherwise the 15% non-stacking bonus doesn't make sense.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:17 AM   #135
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Originally Posted by Vwtifuljoe View Post
Also, the ammo concept makes me wonder. There is the spell ID ("46699 : Requires No Ammo - Thori'dal generates magical arrows when the bow string is drawn. Does not use ammo."), but it doesn't make sense to me. Ammo takes up an inventory slot, and even the created ammo from the Kael fight must be created then put in the paper doll slot. It would make much more sense seeing a something where the bow creates an arrow, then immediately uses it.

Not only that, but how would this "magical arrow" function? Obviously if it's created, then it must exist as an item somewhere. Does it have a dps increase like all other ammo in the game? Or would it's tooltip read like "Increases damage by 0 dps"?
The arrow DPS is innately included on the weapon. Then a spell is applied that makes the bow not require arrows. It's an easy workaround for what would otherwise have to be a new mechanic.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:22 AM   #136
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Thunderfury has a low case "the", too

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Old 02/09/08, 2:25 AM   #137
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The bow might be better than T6 based on the fact that steady shot doesn't benefit from ammo dps, but is it really right that a (most likely) unintended mechanic problem is the only thing that makes it even a marginal upgrade? Does it make sense that it's 3.0 speed even though hunters have been using T4 weapons for months because of our broken dependency on faster weapon speed? I'm also of the mind that I want a big performance upgrade, not a useful gimmick.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:26 AM   #138
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Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
Some interesting spells, mined from the MPQ's:
Boss abilities under spoiler tags:
Click Here ← Click Here
Sacrifice of Anveena - Anveena sacrifices herself, causing Kil'jaeden to take $s1% increased Holy damage.

Power of the Blue Flight - Empowers a humanoid with the essence of the Blue Flight.

Vengeance of the Blue Flight - The power of the Blue Flight courses through you.

Shield of the Blue - Extends a powerful shield around the caster that reduces all damage taken by friendly targets within $a1 yards by $s1%, but drains $s2% of the caster's health per second. Lasts $d.
They didn't forget about "her". I'm very happy to hear this.

There's another one I discovered as well.

Click Here ← Click Here
Anveena's Prison - A field of Arcane power traps Anveena.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:28 AM   #139
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With the 2.4.0 PTR, we will be allowing US, EU and Korean players to access all available PTR realms. Players will be able to choose which test realm they wish to play on without being restricted by region. We currently plan to make all PTR realms available in this way for all future patches.
Not sure if this has been posted before, sounds like a recipe for some fun PTR pvp

WoW Forums -> Public Test Realm update

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Old 02/09/08, 2:35 AM   #140
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Ya, it's been in here. I'll just add it to the OP for completeness value.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:35 AM   #141
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Originally Posted by Argium View Post
I disagree, the bow will definately last into the next expansion and having a whole other bag free [for hunters] while levelling would be invaluable.
Based on what?

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Old 02/09/08, 2:40 AM   #142
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Originally Posted by Vwtifuljoe View Post
I have to say that I think the picture of the legendary bow is fake. I really want to believe its real, but I don't think so. If you look at the image that has been linked, the "the" in the name is lower case. In the past, with items such as Jin'rhok The Great Apocalypse, the "the" is capitalized. Also, the possessive on "Stars" seems wrong. If I'm not mistaken, it should be "Star's" instead of "Stars'".
"Stars'" would be right, being plural possessive.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:42 AM   #143
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The metagem names are Eternal Earthstorm Diamond (12 def rating, 10% shield block value, and the percent is not a typo) and Ember Skyfire Diamond (14 dmg, 2% intellect).

Potential boss ability behind spoiler tags:

Click Here ← Click Here
Spectral Realm teleports and Spectral Exhaustion effects suggest an encounter with a Metroid Prime 2 like darkside/lightside mechanic. Could be raid, could be 5 man.

Last edited by Kalman : 02/09/08 at 2:42 AM. Reason: fail at tags

Melador> Incidentally, these last few pages are why people hate lawyers.
Viator> I really don't want to go all Kalman here.
Bury> Just imagine what the world would be like if you used your powers for good.

Clearly law school has done wonders for me.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:49 AM   #144
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Originally Posted by Avellyr View Post
The bow might be better than T6 based on the fact that steady shot doesn't benefit from ammo dps, but is it really right that a (most likely) unintended mechanic problem is the only thing that makes it even a marginal upgrade? Does it make sense that it's 3.0 speed even though hunters have been using T4 weapons for months because of our broken dependency on faster weapon speed? I'm also of the mind that I want a big performance upgrade, not a useful gimmick.
It's quite clever because it's not really a PvP upgrade since Steady is the staple of PvE DPS, not PvP.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:53 AM   #145
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Originally Posted by Kalman View Post
The metagem names are Eternal Earthstorm Diamond (12 def rating, 10% shield block value, and the percent is not a typo) and Ember Skyfire Diamond (14 dmg, 2% intellect).
What do you mean by "2% intellect?"

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Old 02/09/08, 2:55 AM   #146
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Intellect increased by 2%, apparantly.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:55 AM   #147
♦ Praetorian
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Originally Posted by Metrosexuelf View Post
What do you mean by "2% intellect?"
+2% to intellect I'd assume?

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Old 02/09/08, 2:56 AM   #148
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Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
+2% to intellect I'd assume?
Well... that's what my initial impression would be but it's so horrible I wouldn't think they'd put it on a meta gem. Especially not on a +spell damage one.

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Old 02/09/08, 2:58 AM   #149
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Any word on epic versions of spell haste gems and Steady Seaspray Emerald?

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Old 02/09/08, 2:58 AM   #150
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There's no way to ID item stats without a PTR is there? Even if you already know the exact item IDs?

I ask because I'm really painfully dreadfully curious to find out what, if anything, they've done to Retribution paladin T6.

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