Rawr (v2.3.23 released on 9/12) - Page 100

BWarner · 10/06/09, 11:50 AM

For anything regarding Haste's sometimes odd DPS contribution - please do a search of "haste" over at Rawr - Discussions , using the search box that is not labeled with "Search All Codeplex Projects". There has already been extensive discussion of Haste's sometimes volatile valuation.

Basically, what it boils down to is, there are "peaks and valleys" of Haste. Sometimes, one more Haste will put you over a peak, where you can now squeeze in one more cast before the end of combat.

Additionally, the value you see on the Relative Values is for one additional point of Haste - not what your last stat does for you, not what the next 20 stats do for you, not what the next 500 stats do for you.

A potential solution is to "smooth" Haste out, and avoid the "we can crunch one more spell in before combat ends" issue. The models would still take into account the "I can squeeze in one more filler before my next rotational ability" part of Haste, though.

Astrylian · 10/06/09, 9:20 PM

Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.2.20

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Recent Changes:
v2.2.20.0
- Further improvements to the default filters and item cache.
- Updated parsing of proc effects from Onyxia items, and a few other stray items.
- Added a contextual menu item to open an item in the Armory.
- Improved optimizer availability for items when loading from Character Profiler.
- Fix for changing item IDs.
- Fix for available gems in batch optimizations. Also added a comparison to saved version feature for batch optimizations.
- Rawr.Bear: Updated Predatory Strikes mechanics for 3.2.
- Rawr.Cat: Updated Predatory Strikes mechanics for 3.2.
- Rawr.DPSDK: Added armor and bonus armor as relevant stats. Reworked some damage multipliers for improved accuracy, especially for blood. Support for nested special effects.
- Rawr.DPSWarr: Tons of improvements, including 3.2.2 changes, fixes to maintaining buffs, cooldown usage, stat display, boss handlers, cleave DPS, whirlwind DPS, special effects tweaks, rage generation, armor penetration, rend damage, sword specialization, and tweaks to the rounding of hit.
- Rawr.Elemental: Improved support for some trinkets. Fix for haste dropping spells below 1sec. Fixed base damage values for Earth and Frost Shock, and Lightning Bolt.
- Rawr.Enhance: Support for Boss Handler features. Support for nested special effects.
- Rawr.Mage: Updates to 3.2.2 cycles. Improvement to Arcane Cycles feature. Support for cooldown stacking for all on use spell power and haste effects, and berserking.
- Rawr.ProtPaladin: More 3.2.2 updates. Better support for special effects, as well as some set bonuses and librams. Improved modeling of Shield of Righteousness. Added damage reduction from Ardent Defender. Fix for slightly off base stats.
- Rawr.ProtWarr: Fix for Devastate threat, and other minor tweaks.
- Rawr.RestoSham: Support for more special effects.
- Rawr.Rogue: Added poison-affecting stats as relevant. Added more set bonuses. Fix for Backstab, Mutilate, poison, and Envenom damage. Fix for several energy costs and energy-related talents. Fix for Murder, Hunger for Blood, and Mace Specialization talents.
- Rawr.ShadowPriest: Lots of fixes to haste/rotation interaction. Fixes for spell coefficients and modifiers. Added support for more set bonuses.
- Rawr.TankDK: More 3.2.2 updates. Fix for damage reduction buffs. Fix for white damage from offhands. Added option to display ratings in Burst & Reaction Time.
- Rawr.Tree: More 3.2.2 updates. Basic Val'anyr modeling. Support for a few more set bonuses.
- Rawr.Warlock: Updated formulae for Empowered Imp, Backlash, and Cataclysm, and physical buff support for pets.

EDIT: For the several hours that v2.2.20 was up, it included a version of the default filters with several large chunks of items filtered out by default. If you're not seeing all the items, check the filters, and enable the ones you want to see. Or, just redownload it, since I've reupload it with the defaults correctly set.

Vaccine · 10/07/09, 8:28 AM

I think there are still some problems with the item filters. I can't see certain pieces of 258 tier loot (like the feral helm) through the program. I can see them in the item list and update them from armory or wowhead but they don't appear in the update list.

I'm just playing around with the filters at the moment. It seems though that any item that is 258 that lists its location as "Not Found on Armory" comes up just fine. Any item that is on wowhead (which lists as Purchasable with 1 [Regalia of the Grand Vanquisher]) or any item that is on Armory (which lists as Drops from Champion Faesrol in Icecrown) won't show up.

Edit: I replicated this with another item by checking in the ItemSource.xml for items listed from Faesrol and then trying to equip that which I couldn't. So I guess it is either an oversight from the filters or a new change in the armory recently now these items have started showing up there. Efforts to add Faesrol to list of AC vendors, list of badge vendors and as a boss in 25 man heroic have so far failed.

Edit 2: I succeeded in getting the filter to show these items by creating a new Filter called "Icecrown" and then a sub filter called "Champion Faesrol" for those struggling with this.

janaka · 10/07/09, 11:36 AM

I got this error when trying to open of my 2.2.19 ProtWarr Files. Clicking OK, i got this.

Obviously it tries to open them as DPSWarr Profiles?

I could solve it by first loading my Character from the Armory, then opening the file.

kalbear · 10/07/09, 2:35 PM

Alternately, you can simply filter on 'all' and have all the items show up, but that's the only way I've been able to get the 258 tier items to show.

Astrylian · 10/07/09, 4:36 PM

Yeah, we're still trying to work out the filtering, and having lots of trouble with it. If you ever aren't seeing everything you think you should, just use the ALL filter, for now. And there's a crashing issue with leatherworkers right now (on save/load), we're working on v2.2.21 right now for that.

Astrylian · 10/07/09, 10:07 PM

Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.2.21

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Recent Changes:
v2.2.21.0
- More improvements to default filters. Sorry for all the confusion and problems with filters lately, everyone. We realize that filtering is a very important, but complex, part of Rawr, and are working toward a much more understandable and reliable system for filtering. Please bear with us!
- Fix for crashing on saving and loading characters from Armory with Leatherworking.
- Mage: Fix for crash with Hyperspeed Accellerators, and other cooldown stacking issues.
- Enhance: Fix for nested special effect calculations.
- Moonkin: Significant performance improvement.
- ProtPaladin: Significant performance improvement.
- DPSWarr: Significant performance improvement.

hypetech · 10/07/09, 10:12 PM

I've put together a video tutorial on using the Export CSV feature of Rawr to make a formatted upgrade list in OpenOffice Calc. I've shown this to a few people and they found it really helpful, so I thought I'd put it out there for anybody else that could use some help managing their lists. It's pretty basic stuff for anybody familiar with CSV files, but I'm sure a lot of people don't recognize the potential.

YouTube - Creating a Formatted Rawr Upgrade List Using OpenOffice Calc

hypetech · 10/09/09, 5:13 PM

After the last release, [Slikk's Cloak of Placation] at least seems to not properly split bonus armor from base armor when updated from the armory. It works fine when updating via wowhead. I haven't seen any other items behave this way, but most of them probably wouldn't be as obvious as seeing a badge of justice item in an upgrade list :P

Astrylian · 10/09/09, 7:48 PM

I probably updated it from Armory last before posting .21... The Armory's got bad data for BC cloaks with bonus armor.

Astrylian · 10/13/09, 7:17 AM

Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.2.22

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Recent Changes:
v2.2.22.0
- Significant performance improvements across a wide variety of models
- Fix for Direct Upgrades chart only showing the specified # of gemming templates
- Rawr now remembers the last loaded charater from the Armory in the Load from Armory dialog
- Updated the parry chance of lvl83 bosses to 14%, per recent testing
- Rawr.Bear: Added support for Parry Haste
- Rawr.Mage: Fix for bug with incremental optimization. Added very simple movement model. Fix for Arcane Power + Missile Barrage interaction
- Rawr.Moonkin: Fix for mana gains chart
- Rawr.ProtPaladin: Added support for T9 and T10 set bonuses
- Rawr.Rogue: Fix for Mace Spec calculations
- Rawr.DPSWarr: Fix for intellect blocking gear from being considered relevant

BWarner · 10/13/09, 3:53 PM

Rawr.DPSWarr module also got another round of performance boosts in this release.

vbishop · 10/13/09, 8:11 PM

I have downloaded the new Rawr 2.2.22, but I keep getting this error whenever I try to load a character from the Armory:

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

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System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
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at System.Collections.Specialized.StringCollection.get_Item(Int32 index)
at Rawr.FormEnterNameRealm..ctor()
at Rawr.FormMain.LoadCharacterFromArmory()
at Rawr.FormMain.loadFromArmoryToolStripMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
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at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
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at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

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Astrylian · 10/13/09, 9:40 PM

There were 2 issues with Armory importing... First, the Armory being down this morning. Should be fine now. Second, parsing on a few oddball tabards broke, and cause a crash. Try refreshing the armory without your tabard for now, til we get .23 out.

vbishop · 10/13/09, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

There were 2 issues with Armory importing... First, the Armory being down this morning. Should be fine now. Second, parsing on a few oddball tabards broke, and cause a crash. Try refreshing the armory without your tabard for now, til we get .23 out.

I had recently attempted again to load from Armory.

It does not allow me to even enter in my Armory information to try to load from. It gives me the error as soon as I click "Load from the Armory".

If I am missing what you are suggesting, please let me know.

Astrylian · 10/13/09, 10:46 PM

Err, that sounds like something completely different. Please post the full error as a new issue on our Issue Tracker. After that, you can probably solve it by clearing your settings (User/AppData/Local/ Look for anything in there about Rawr).

Jothay · 10/13/09, 10:50 PM

Scratch that, DON'T DELETE, do this instead....

Open the 2.2.22.0 folder that you find in that path (you may need to check a couple of sub-folders to find it)

find the "user.config" file and open it with a text editor (notepad)

insert the following after the WindowLocation setting block (after the </setting> and before (</Rawr.Properties.Recent>):

<setting name="RecentRegion" serializeAs="String">
<value>US</value>
</setting>
<setting name="RecentServers" serializeAs="Xml">
<value>
<ArrayOfString xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<string>Silver Hand</string>
</ArrayOfString>
</value>
</setting>
<setting name="RecentChars" serializeAs="Xml">
<value>
<ArrayOfString xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<string>Jothay</string>
</ArrayOfString>
</value>
</setting>

This will give you a population for Recent Servers and Characters for that form. It's a bug that I've already fixed but users with 2.2.22 may get this problem. If you wanna swap my character name and server with your own you are welcome to. NOTE: Recent Region may already be in there, if it is, don't add it a second time

Jothay · 10/13/09, 11:02 PM

Astry may be making a new release here shortly to address that and a couple of other bugs that popped up.

vbishop · 10/14/09, 12:29 AM

I had another error come up, but my character did load completely.

After it loaded, the Status window would not go away. I will re-test this to see if it occurs again.

Update : I just tried to replicate this error, but was unable to do so. It seems Jothay's hotfix worked on fixing my error.

Latas · 10/14/09, 6:26 AM

I've noticed work being done on the warlock module. I'm curious as to how 'done' it actually is so far and if it's any good to use it right now or if it's horribly inaccurate.

Cluey · 10/14/09, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Jothay

Astry may be making a new release here shortly to address that and a couple of other bugs that popped up.

Astrylian could you please look into the default cat and bear gems not being epic and add the [Lesser Flask of Resistance] to the consumables section?
I know you mentioned I can copy my gem settings across but I had deleted the old folders before I ran the new version.

The last comment on wowhead indicates that the mixology buff for the flask is now 40 so it's not a bad option for a couple of fights.

kalbear · 10/14/09, 3:01 PM

You can add the following to your buffcache.xml file if you'd like [Lesser Flask of Resistance] there:

  <Buff>
    <Name>Lesser Flask of Resistance</Name>
    <Group>Elixirs and Flasks</Group>
    <Stats>
      <FrostResistance>50</FrostResistance>
      <NatureResistance>50</NatureResistance>
      <FireResistance>50</FireResistance>
      <ShadowResistance>50</ShadowResistance>
      <ArcaneResistance>50</ArcaneResistance>
    </Stats>
    <SetThreshold>0</SetThreshold>
    <Improvements>
      <Buff>
        <Name>Lesser Flask of Resistance (Mixology)</Name>
        <Stats>
          <FrostResistance>40</FrostResistance>
          <NatureResistance>40</NatureResistance>
          <FireResistance>40</FireResistance>
          <ShadowResistance>40</ShadowResistance>
          <ArcaneResistance>40</ArcaneResistance>
        </Stats>
        <SetThreshold>0</SetThreshold>
        <Improvements />
        <IsCustom>true</IsCustom>
        <ConflictingBuffs>
          <string xsi:nil="true" />
        </ConflictingBuffs>
      </Buff>
    </Improvements>
    <IsCustom>true</IsCustom>
    <ConflictingBuffs>
      <string>Battle Elixir</string>
      <string>Guardian Elixir</string>
    </ConflictingBuffs>
  </Buff>

Cluey · 10/14/09, 9:57 PM

Originally Posted by kalbear

You can add the following to your buffcache.xml file if you'd like [Lesser Flask of Resistance] there:

I've added it myself in the past but it kept getting replaced even with the is custom line in there.

Maybe I was missing something else, I will give that a try later but I still think it would be good to have in there standard, it isn't only going to be a couple of people wanting to try this out.

Astrylian · 10/15/09, 12:22 AM

Yeah, got that in for .23.

Kris · 10/15/09, 4:57 AM

Is there a way to remove permanently [Seth's Graphite Fishing Pole] from Rawr. Evaluating weapons is a real pain with it cluttering everything to the right.