Rawr (v2.3.23 released on 9/12) - Page 103

Astrylian · 12/15/08, 7:03 PM

What item?

• Adoriele · 12/15/08, 7:17 PM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

What item?

Huh. I re-opened Rawr, and the problem was gone. So for more info's sake, I ran a full wowhead check, the error popped up once it was finished, and I don't think any items got updated. I tried running an update on a single item, one of the Arena helms, though I can't remember which one. Same problem, so I closed Rawr and put up the report.

Onaicul · 12/15/08, 8:52 PM

DPSDK is still showing Ret pally gear as upgrades, including spell power gems. Also the i think the actual dps calculations are flawed for the three specs, blood being slightly high and both unholy and frost less than half of what blood is theoretically producing.
I am also unable to create a custom rotation, it does not save the implemented settings.

thanks in advance and great job on a great program

Astrylian · 12/15/08, 9:57 PM

2.1.4 didn't include any of the forthcoming DPSDK changes.

nero · 12/15/08, 10:20 PM

Thank you for this program, it's seriously epic

Just wanted to ask how i would go about finding the rough values for approximating stat weight. I've been using it as a Shadowpriest too sort out gear upgrades and its mint, but i cannot find out what values are assigned to stats.

Ie 1 spell damage = 1
1 hit rating = 1.4 (until hitcapped)
1 crit = .6

That sort of thing

Thanks!

Astrylian · 12/15/08, 11:13 PM

Keep in mind that stat weights are not accurate; at the least they're imprecise, and at the worst (ie, once you pass a cap or threshold), they're completely wrong. But, that said, they can be useful for ballpark figures.

Some of Rawr's models provide a Relative Stat Values or Item Budget or similarly named chart, near the bottom of the list of charts. For those that don't, I suggest just looking at gems and comparing the value of the single-stat gems. Edit a gem if there's not a gem for a stat you want to compare (then edit it back so you don't screw other things up).

In Rawr 2.2, we're hoping to provide a standardized chart of stat values for all models.

Tequodai · 12/16/08, 1:35 AM

Im kind of sorry but the EnhSham model in 2.1.4 doesnt seem to be updated for 3.0
The Hit and crit rating calculations specifically look like pre 3.0
Additionally, when i load my char from the armory the option tab/ boss settings are behaving strange, cannot change the level and the options are greyed (browned) out.

Pharmacon · 12/16/08, 9:08 AM

For tanking: Are there any plans of including mitigation component onto expertise rating? As it stands right now expertise only applies for threat but it still does reduce parry and therefore the parry haste mechanic making it good for mitigation as well. Doubtful you'd want to gem for it ever but as Feral gear is swimming in it, it would be nice to have a general idea of what it's worth.

Astrylian · 12/16/08, 12:36 PM

We agree that Exp does have a value in reducing in-coming damage, however the math for that is very rough. If you can find some exact math on how to calculate this, let me know.

foxglove · 12/17/08, 1:49 AM

I downloaded 2.1.4 today and T6 has vanished from the cat model Comparisons lists for all slots. Pre-70 blues like the Spymistress's Wristguards are there, but not my trusty T6. (I want to optimize for which 4 pieces of T6 to use.) I tried loading "possible upgrades" from Armory and this did not fetch them. Any suggestions on how to get T6 back in the list?

Note that I'm running Rawr in Mono, so many of the features cause the application to crash. (I don't think that's why the T6 is missing, though.)

Edit: Alright, I solved my own problem. Somehow Burning Crusade is now unchecked for me by default under "Filter" in the upper right. Re-checking it brings T6 back.

jonny · 12/17/08, 5:55 AM

Check the filters options to the top right of the gear lists. TBC was disabled for me meaning none of my gear was showing in the lists.

nero · 12/17/08, 7:08 AM

Hi Astryl, another quick question for you.

I am currently wearing Sandals of crimson fury ([Sandals of Crimson Fury]), and the logica gem choice from what i can see is a runed ruby of +19 spell power. The set bonus is not worth losing the 7 spellpower that i would lose from inserting a purple gem. I noticed in Rawr that all of that availible options gave me gems that would give the set bonus, purple gems for instance going into blue slots even when it's a pretty bad socket bonus.

Is there a way to turn off the program selecting gems that give the set bonus automatically. some times there are contentious gemming choice where the socket bonus might be close to that of what you would give up, but at the moment Rawr will only show me the correct colour gem.

Thanks again!

thedopefishlives · 12/17/08, 8:34 AM

Originally Posted by nero

Hi Astryl, another quick question for you.

I am currently wearing Sandals of crimson fury ([Sandals of Crimson Fury]), and the logica gem choice from what i can see is a runed ruby of +19 spell power. The set bonus is not worth losing the 7 spellpower that i would lose from inserting a purple gem. I noticed in Rawr that all of that availible options gave me gems that would give the set bonus, purple gems for instance going into blue slots even when it's a pretty bad socket bonus.

Is there a way to turn off the program selecting gems that give the set bonus automatically. some times there are contentious gemming choice where the socket bonus might be close to that of what you would give up, but at the moment Rawr will only show me the correct colour gem.

Thanks again!

Use the Item Editor to manually add the gemming of your choice; or, if you want to override gemmings for all items, use the mass gem replacement tool.

Calgar · 12/17/08, 9:22 AM

Death Knight DPS still showing ret pally Teir gear. In fact, I think the item weights are coming from ret pallys as well. The value of haste seems WAY out of proportion to what i've calculated it at.

On a side note. Is there any way to tell it to stop using "epic" gems that don't even exist in game yet? It's throwing off item comparisons in favor of socketed ones.

charriu · 12/17/08, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Calgar

On a side note. Is there any way to tell it to stop using "epic" gems that don't even exist in game yet? It's throwing off item comparisons in favor of socketed ones.

Tools -> Set Default Gems for Equipment... -> Delete non-listed Gemmings