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12/10/09, 4:46 AM
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#2551
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Rawr
Night Elf Druid
Stormrage
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Rawr (v2.3.1 released on 12/9)
Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.3.1
Tour of Rawr Movie! - YouTube - Tour of Rawr
Recent Changes:
v2.3.1.0
- Many 3.3 trinkets now have their effects modeled correctly.
- Filters have been updated to include new 3.3 gear.
- Hymn of Hope and Mana Tide totem are now selectable buffs.
- Your dodge is now floored at 0% even with the Chill of the Throne debuff active.
- Additional Teir 10 set bonus effects for many modules implemented.
- Rawr.TankdDK: Rune of the Nerubian Carapace is now avalible for selection.
- Rawr.Mage: Improved handeling of Frost DPS Cycles.
- Rawr.Moonkin: New stat panel! This should show more information, in a more helpful manner.
- Rawr.Tree: Rotation calculations redone, should be more accurate now.
- Rawr.Hunter: Hit will now properly effect your pet's chance to be dodged. Mana calculations for Aspect of the Viper fixed, you should see a DPS drop if you would run OOM and are not set to use Viper. Pet talents should now look and feel like the normal talent pane.
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Rawr!
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12/10/09, 9:35 AM
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#2552
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Don Flamenco
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I just wanted to highlight the new stat panel for Moonkin in the latest release of Rawr. For all my feathery friends, I would love it if you guys checked out the new features and gave me some feedback on what you like and what needs improvement. Users of Rawr.Mage should feel a bit more at home with the structure of the new Moonkin panel, as I tried to replicate its functionality with the data I had in the model. There are additional parameters I can display, but they will take some time to separate out.
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12/12/09, 1:09 AM
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#2553
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Druid
Silver Hand
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I run primarily as a cat in 25s and bear in 10s, the batch tools have gotten to be very useful to me for how to gem and enchant for that situation. I must be very close to some edge conditions or places where gear is very very similar because very minor shifts in weighting, buffs, target health give huge variance in suggested enchants.
Anyway, I picked up a trophy tonight to be able to get a second T9.245 helm, this one to enchant for bear. I tried to blue diamond select bear and cat enchants to indicate that I had more than one helm, but the batch tools didn't catch it. I was using the Progressive Optimizer since I max out cat first then build best bear with what I have left.
I ended up just manually equipping the new helm over what the batch said (stormrage helm actually) with the same gems and enchants.
Is there any way to do this cleanly without creating a dummy item in the editor with a different name?
Oh and for those of you who owe Astrylian's prog as much as I do, be aware that Blizzard has also recognized Astrylian:
Astrylian's Sutured Cinch
Tht's an armory link, wowhead doesn't have it.
It'll be a while before anyone can loot that, and I don't know if I'll ever manage, but richly deserved.
(I did my congratz by PM)
e:I was able to get it to use two separate helms with the blue diamond selections, but the batch seems to be very particular about which file you use as the basis for 'Set Available Items".
Last edited by Jheusse : 12/12/09 at 1:51 AM.
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12/12/09, 2:25 AM
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#2554
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Rawr
Night Elf Druid
Stormrage
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Unfortunately, we don't really have a way to indicate that you have two of an item, yet, but I believe that's a problem Kavan is working on.
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Rawr!
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12/12/09, 1:02 PM
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#2555
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Rawr
Night Elf Druid
Stormrage
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Originally Posted by Jheusse
Oh and for those of you who owe Astrylian's prog as much as I do, be aware that Blizzard has also recognized Astrylian:
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Thanks very much, Jheusse. That said, I really can't take all the credit. Rawr is definitely a team project, and I couldn't do it without the help of a ton of those developers to varying degrees, especially Kavan (who has been with me on it since almost the beginning, and maintains the amazing Mage model, most of the Optimizer features, and a slew of other things), and more recently Jothay (who has taken on the development of multiple models, including classes he doesn't even play, since nobody else would, as well as help manage our forums and issue tracker).
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Rawr!
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12/12/09, 1:23 PM
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#2556
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Rawr
Night Elf Druid
Stormrage
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Rawr (v2.3.2 released on 12/12)
Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.3.2
Tour of Rawr Movie! - YouTube - Tour of Rawr
Recent Changes:
v2.3.2.0
- Added several new talent presets.
- Implemented several new trinkets.
- Added a new Gear Planning Option. It allows you to assign an arbitrary cost to each item, and use the Optimizer to find the best upgrade set per cost, or within a cost threshold. There's also a new version of the Direct Upgrades chart, rated by Upgrade per Cost. See the discussion thread on our forums for further details.
- Rawr.Tree: Further major changes to rotations. Keep the feedback coming, please! Fix for Lifebloom stacks being bugged. Support for T10 set bonuses, and the new idol. Added custom charts, more stat information.
- Rawr.SPriest: Fix for Mind Flay and 4T10.
- Rawr.Moonkin: Fix for the T10 set bonuses not applying.
- Rawr.Mage: Further improvements to Frost cycles; should be very close to accurate now (possibly underestimating 2T10). Adjusted Flamestrike cast time, and implemented 2T10 in FBLBPyro. Improved sequence reconstruction.
- Rawr.Hunter: Improved support for several trinkets. Added Survivability rating (can adjust the weight on the options tab)! Added display of pet attacks being dodged. Significantly improved pet stat calculations. Fixes and improvements for several other damage calculations.
- Rawr.DPSDK: Scourge Strike calculations updated to reflect the hotfix.
- Rawr.Retribution: You can now definte multiple rotation priorities and the calculations will try each of them and use the highest DPS rotation. A new graph will show all of the defined rotations.
- Rawr.DPSWarr: Fix for DW tick frequency.
- Rawr.Enhance: Implemented Deathbringer's Will, and added support for procs on DoT ticks.
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Rawr!
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12/12/09, 5:21 PM
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#2557
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Von Kaiser
Troll Warrior
Die Silberne Hand (EU)
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ProtWarr: The Defense proc from Quel'Serrar is apparently counted for crit immunity, i doubt this is intentional.
Last edited by janaka : 12/12/09 at 5:27 PM.
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12/12/09, 5:49 PM
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#2558
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Rawr
Night Elf Druid
Stormrage
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Aye, that's an odd one, that we haven't gotten time to solve yet.
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Rawr!
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12/12/09, 10:03 PM
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#2559
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<Druid Trainer> Emeritus
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The Tree model is adding in extra haste from somewhere. in 2.3.1 it correctly haste-capped me at 50% at 735 haste, but when I load the same profile in 2.3.2, I have 53.56% haste. This also messes up any optimizing, because it always leaves you below haste cap.
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12/12/09, 11:20 PM
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#2560
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Protector
Ashstorm
Human Paladin
No WoW Account
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Sometimes when opening the new Rawr, I get a box with a "  " in it. Otherwise works fine.
Quel from Ony is giving the Prot Pally module straight defense, when it really only has about a 50% uptime.
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12/13/09, 1:39 AM
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#2561
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Rawr
Night Elf Druid
Stormrage
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A box with a "  " in it? Screenshot?
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Rawr!
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12/13/09, 3:13 PM
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#2563
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Rawr
Night Elf Druid
Stormrage
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Ah hah, found it. Ermad, you're in trouble. It's some debug message from Rawr.Retribution that Ermad left in. Seems to just mean that it doesn't have some data cached, and it needs to rebuild it. Nothing to worry about. Sorry, users.
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Rawr!
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12/14/09, 8:39 AM
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#2564
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Aszune (EU)
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I guess T10 modeling for elemental shammys will come in a later version? I couldn't find any notice of it being left out though.
The set is in the gearlist - but if you look under the "Set bonuses" in the buffs-tab the only mention of T10 set is the DK's set? And when you start to equip the gear RAWR doesn't seem to "favor" 2nd and 4th piece of the set.
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12/15/09, 8:37 AM
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#2565
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Kel'Thuzad (EU)
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Originally Posted by Arawethion
The Tree model is adding in extra haste from somewhere. in 2.3.1 it correctly haste-capped me at 50% at 735 haste, but when I load the same profile in 2.3.2, I have 53.56% haste. This also messes up any optimizing, because it always leaves you below haste cap.
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I have the same problem. With 839 Haste from Talents, Equip and Buffs, Rawr tell me, i was 482 haste over the capp.
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12/16/09, 4:58 AM
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#2566
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Glass Joe
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Rawr.Moonkin Bug
I have been messing around with Rawr.Moonkin trying to figure out my BiS for ICC, however there seems to be a bug; if I get to much Crit the calculations blow up. With Full Tier 10 and the highest ilvl Leather items I get 57.21% Crit (1255 Crit rating) and a Sustained DPS of 0. Looking a little closer at the stats sheet it says "Burst DPS: -281243.20" and "Selected DPS Rotation: -29405.97". As a result any item with Crit above a certain thresthold, seems to be any item that pushes Crit to around 57%, is moved to the bottom of the upgrade lists (they all have 0 sustained DPS value). If you turn off some raid buffs that effect crit, like moonkin aura it goes back to working properly. I hope this helps.
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12/16/09, 11:02 AM
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#2567
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by Corlax
I have been messing around with Rawr.Moonkin trying to figure out my BiS for ICC, however there seems to be a bug; if I get to much Crit the calculations blow up. With Full Tier 10 and the highest ilvl Leather items I get 57.21% Crit (1255 Crit rating) and a Sustained DPS of 0. Looking a little closer at the stats sheet it says "Burst DPS: -281243.20" and "Selected DPS Rotation: -29405.97". As a result any item with Crit above a certain thresthold, seems to be any item that pushes Crit to around 57%, is moved to the bottom of the upgrade lists (they all have 0 sustained DPS value). If you turn off some raid buffs that effect crit, like moonkin aura it goes back to working properly. I hope this helps.
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I already opened an issue about this very thing on the main rawr site, it has been looked into and fixed and to my knowledge should be included in the next release of rawr.
On another note, given that Rotface will be in the next tier of ICC has there been any headway to getting the Dislodged Foreign Object trinkets properly modeled? I've tried to approximate their proc in raw spell damage but it just seems very inaccurate to me that way.
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12/17/09, 9:49 AM
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#2568
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Glass Joe
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Rawr.Tree
The 4 Hot(s) sliders for nourish(as your primary spell) will only allow combinations that are bound up to a total 100% (e.g. 50%, 25%, 15% 10%=100%).
While theoretically they should all be selectable up to 100% each(e.g. 90%, 50%, 20%, 5%).
Also noticed some weird behavior when you select runic mana potion, runic mana injector or powerful rejuvenation potion in the Buff tab. When either is selected is causes the mp5 value in the stats tab to go from 1200 to 22699, and in the "Mana sources (sustained)" menu it shows 4333.53 MPS in the "Mana from procs" category. This is exhibited whether i have the "(Runic) 4200-4400, avg 4300" option selected or not in the Option>Mana tabs.
Last edited by epiccollision : 12/17/09 at 11:24 PM.
Reason: adding add'l information
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12/17/09, 10:44 AM
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#2569
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Paladin
Malfurion
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How do you get to the new Ret rotation editor? I've been searching for it and failing miserably.
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12/18/09, 3:09 AM
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#2570
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Piston Honda
Human Paladin
Rexxar (EU)
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Same place where you changed your rotation previously.
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12/18/09, 4:55 AM
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#2571
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Rawr
Night Elf Druid
Stormrage
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Rawr (v2.3.3 released on 12/17)
Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.3.3
Tour of Rawr Movie! - YouTube - Tour of Rawr
Recent Changes:
v2.3.3.0
- Further improvements to parsing and calculations on many of the new trinkets and relics.
- Lots of improvements and tweaks to the Item Cost handling.
- Rawr.Tree: Keep bearing with us as we continue with significant Tree changes. Please keep giving feedback on our discussion forums. GotEM should be fixed now, along with many rating calculations updates. Many new or improved options.
- Rawr.Enhance: Improved Deathbringer's Will calculations. Removed Glyph of Fire Nova. Fix for Windfury damage applying without using Windfury on MH/OH. Fix for spell-triggered special effect uptime.
- Rawr.Mage: Updated PvP set bonuses. Fix for bug with heroism on short fights.
- Rawr.DPSWarrior: Updated PvP set bonuses. Implemented ArPen capping from special effects.
- Rawr.Elemental: Several minor fixes.
- Rawr.Cat: Fix for crit capping due to special effects. Accurate modelling of Deathbringer's Will.
- Rawr.ProtWarr: Fix for expertise from racials.
- Rawr.Healadin: Support for new Libram.
- Rawr.Hunter: Fix for hit optimization, pet talents, and a rare issue with viper uptime. Handling for Zod's Repeating Longbow. Fix for Chimera Shot + Serpent Sting interaction.
- Rawr.RestoSham: Added/improved support for many more trinkets.
- Rawr.Moonkin: Fix for calculations of rotations that are mana neutral.
- Rawr.Rogue: Implemented most 3.3 changes.
- Rawr.DPSDK: Implemented Deathbringer's Will.
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12/18/09, 5:57 AM
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#2572
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Don Flamenco
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2.3.3 seems to be missing a lot of the items that dropped from the heroic versions of the encounters and the bosses yet to be released that 2.3.2 had.
Edit: Disregard this, you can still get them from armory.
Last edited by Latas : 12/18/09 at 7:55 AM.
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12/18/09, 1:17 PM
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#2573
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Paladin
Malfurion
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Originally Posted by cremor
Same place where you changed your rotation previously.
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Err I misworded my question. The rotation changes yes, but there is no change at all reflected in the dps calculations. I've put in completely terrible rotations and the numbers remain exactly the same throughout.
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12/18/09, 1:29 PM
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#2574
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Piston Honda
Human Paladin
Rexxar (EU)
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12/18/09, 3:49 PM
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#2575
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Hunter
Stonemaul
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Could someone put the 2.3.3 .rar file on filefront or somewhere? the website isn't letting me download it at all
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