Rawr (v2.3.23 released on 9/12) - Page 109

Kavan · 01/06/09, 1:28 PM

Originally Posted by manly

When creating a new empty player, selecting undead mage, I get a base crit rate of 2.01%. The expected value is 1.98%. Also I'd be curious to know what you guys use to determine the base player crit rate from int, since the base value is somewhat debatable. I use 0.9075 which matches the in-game 1.98%, but I was wondering if you had some more elaborate calculus for that value.

This is most likely because of wrong base racial stats. During beta I only had numbers for Gnome and I never went back to fine tune the other races (we're using 0.9075 for base crit).

manly · 01/06/09, 1:32 PM

Ah I see, the number you're looking for is 179 int for undead at 80. Unfortunately I don't have the other races.

gouldukat · 01/06/09, 2:13 PM

Is possible to get in pop up of item the type of them ? ( leather/plate/cloth/mail )
And a standard filter to filter in base of item type ?

Thanks

• Adoriele · 01/06/09, 2:16 PM

Originally Posted by gouldukat

Is possible to get in pop up of item the type of them ? ( leather/plate/cloth/mail )
And a standard filter to filter in base of item type ?

Thanks

You can filter by item type by going to Tools->Refine types of items listed

Rykolyn · 01/06/09, 3:10 PM

While experimenting with the Death Knight modules, (Both Tank and DPS) I seemed to notice that the Frost Talent; "Toughness" isn't being calculated, (Especially in conjunction with bladed armor.)

testthewest · 01/06/09, 4:07 PM

Is
Extract of Necromatic Power
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 80
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 95 (2.07% @ L80).
Equip: Each time one of your spells deals periodic damage, there is a chance 788 to 1312 additional damage will be dealt.

only modeled to give 95 crit, or is the proc somewhere included? Seems that there is as a FFB mage it is only counted as 95 crit.

Edit: Thx for the fast answer!

Astrylian · 01/06/09, 4:11 PM

If a trinket's tooltip only shows it static passive value, we haven't modeled its proc/effect yet. Right Click, Edit, add whatever stats you feel are right to it.

Latas · 01/06/09, 4:43 PM

I noticed that the Embrace of the Spider listing is shown as having both the 505 haste proc and the haste proc calculated as a constant 84. I'm assuming its just supposed to have the proc listed on it and not the calculated constant haste listed in it also?

Arthaal · 01/06/09, 5:02 PM

Sorting anything by threat in the pop-up item lists in rawr.tankadin inevitably leads to an unhandled error... something about not being able to sort the list?

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentException: IComparer (or the IComparable methods it relies upon) did not return zero when Array.Sort called x. CompareTo(x). x: 'Furious Deathgrips: (3178O 519M 2258S)'  x's type: 'ComparisonCalculationTankadin' The IComparer: 'System.Array+FunctorComparer`1[Rawr.ComparisonCalculationBase]'.
   at System.Collections.Generic.ArraySortHelper`1.SwapIfGreaterWithItems[TValue](T[] keys, TValue[] values, IComparer`1 comparer, Int32 a, Int32 b)
   at System.Collections.Generic.ArraySortHelper`1.QuickSort[TValue](T[] keys, TValue[] values, Int32 left, Int32 right, IComparer`1 comparer)
   at System.Collections.Generic.ArraySortHelper`1.Sort[TValue](T[] keys, TValue[] values, Int32 index, Int32 length, IComparer`1 comparer)
   at System.Collections.Generic.ArraySortHelper`1.Sort(T[] items, Int32 index, Int32 length, IComparer`1 comparer)
   at System.Array.Sort[T](T[] array, Int32 index, Int32 length, IComparer`1 comparer)
   at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.Sort(Comparison`1 comparison)
   at Rawr.FormItemSelection.set_ItemCalculations(ComparisonCalculationBase[] value)
   at Rawr.FormItemSelection.sortToolStripMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1434 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
Rawr
    Assembly Version: 2.1.6.0

dmacika · 01/06/09, 5:15 PM

Just downloaded 2.1.6. Delete non-listed gemmings option on the default gem settings doesn't seem to work for me.

Astrylian · 01/06/09, 5:20 PM

Thanks, I'll look into both of those... I think I know what both of those problems are.

EDIT:

Just downloaded 2.1.6. Delete non-listed gemmings option on the default gem settings doesn't seem to work for me.

Can you elaborate? What exactly are you trying to do, what parameters are you using, what results are you getting that you don't expect, etc? Note than equipped and available items will not be deleted, if that's what you're seeing.

dmacika · 01/06/09, 5:48 PM

Hmmm. Seems to have to do with the character file I copied over from v2.1.5.

If I start fresh and load my character from the armory, it works fine.

If I copy the XML from 2.1.5, open 2.1.6 and load the 2.1.5 xml, then set the gem settings, I see unselected and unequiped gemmings still listed. For instance, I am wearing [Helm of Cheated Fate], but the listings for [Valorous Dreamwalker Headguard] in the Item Comparions contain gems I did not select, such as [Delicate Cardinal Ruby]

Edit: Yes, I know I included my own solution, just use a fresh load from the armory instead of the old xml. I just wanted to described how I came about the issue for comparison.

• Adoriele · 01/06/09, 6:00 PM

Just noticed this (after running the optimizer, which is always the wrong time to notice things), but most of the items in my cache have no socket bonus (listed as "none"). Updating from both armory and Wowhead do nothing, they have to be manually edited in. I'm assuming it's an issue with the parser, as I did a full reload from armory this morning.

Astrylian · 01/06/09, 6:16 PM

Originally Posted by Adoriele

Just noticed this (after running the optimizer, which is always the wrong time to notice things), but most of the items in my cache have no socket bonus (listed as "none"). Updating from both armory and Wowhead do nothing, they have to be manually edited in. I'm assuming it's an issue with the parser, as I did a full reload from armory this morning.

This is a bug in the Armory. Take a look at the US Armory right now, no socket bonuses anywhere. You mentioned you tried updating from Wowhead, but can you please try again? Wowhead's working just fine, and parses just fine for me...? Hopefully Blizz'll fix the Armory soon.

• Adoriele · 01/06/09, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

This is a bug in the Armory. Take a look at the US Armory right now, no socket bonuses anywhere. You mentioned you tried updating from Wowhead, but can you please try again? Wowhead's working just fine, and parses just fine for me...? Hopefully Blizz'll fix the Armory soon.

Checked again on a different item and updating from Wowhead worked fine. Now if only I could get a mass update to run properly, and no I still have no idea what's throwing that error I mentioned before. Is there a way for the error message to include which item it was trying to update when it errored out?