Rawr (v2.3.23 released on 9/12) - Page 172

Corlax · 12/16/09, 4:58 AM

I have been messing around with Rawr.Moonkin trying to figure out my BiS for ICC, however there seems to be a bug; if I get to much Crit the calculations blow up. With Full Tier 10 and the highest ilvl Leather items I get 57.21% Crit (1255 Crit rating) and a Sustained DPS of 0. Looking a little closer at the stats sheet it says "Burst DPS: -281243.20" and "Selected DPS Rotation: -29405.97". As a result any item with Crit above a certain thresthold, seems to be any item that pushes Crit to around 57%, is moved to the bottom of the upgrade lists (they all have 0 sustained DPS value). If you turn off some raid buffs that effect crit, like moonkin aura it goes back to working properly. I hope this helps.

Latas · 12/16/09, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Corlax

I have been messing around with Rawr.Moonkin trying to figure out my BiS for ICC, however there seems to be a bug; if I get to much Crit the calculations blow up. With Full Tier 10 and the highest ilvl Leather items I get 57.21% Crit (1255 Crit rating) and a Sustained DPS of 0. Looking a little closer at the stats sheet it says "Burst DPS: -281243.20" and "Selected DPS Rotation: -29405.97". As a result any item with Crit above a certain thresthold, seems to be any item that pushes Crit to around 57%, is moved to the bottom of the upgrade lists (they all have 0 sustained DPS value). If you turn off some raid buffs that effect crit, like moonkin aura it goes back to working properly. I hope this helps.

I already opened an issue about this very thing on the main rawr site, it has been looked into and fixed and to my knowledge should be included in the next release of rawr.

On another note, given that Rotface will be in the next tier of ICC has there been any headway to getting the Dislodged Foreign Object trinkets properly modeled? I've tried to approximate their proc in raw spell damage but it just seems very inaccurate to me that way.

epiccollision · 12/17/09, 9:49 AM

The 4 Hot(s) sliders for nourish(as your primary spell) will only allow combinations that are bound up to a total 100% (e.g. 50%, 25%, 15% 10%=100%).
While theoretically they should all be selectable up to 100% each(e.g. 90%, 50%, 20%, 5%).

Also noticed some weird behavior when you select runic mana potion, runic mana injector or powerful rejuvenation potion in the Buff tab. When either is selected is causes the mp5 value in the stats tab to go from 1200 to 22699, and in the "Mana sources (sustained)" menu it shows 4333.53 MPS in the "Mana from procs" category. This is exhibited whether i have the "(Runic) 4200-4400, avg 4300" option selected or not in the Option>Mana tabs.

WinterWind · 12/17/09, 10:44 AM

How do you get to the new Ret rotation editor? I've been searching for it and failing miserably.

cremor · 12/18/09, 3:09 AM

Same place where you changed your rotation previously.

Astrylian · 12/18/09, 4:55 AM

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Recent Changes:
v2.3.3.0
- Further improvements to parsing and calculations on many of the new trinkets and relics.
- Lots of improvements and tweaks to the Item Cost handling.
- Rawr.Tree: Keep bearing with us as we continue with significant Tree changes. Please keep giving feedback on our discussion forums. GotEM should be fixed now, along with many rating calculations updates. Many new or improved options.
- Rawr.Enhance: Improved Deathbringer's Will calculations. Removed Glyph of Fire Nova. Fix for Windfury damage applying without using Windfury on MH/OH. Fix for spell-triggered special effect uptime.
- Rawr.Mage: Updated PvP set bonuses. Fix for bug with heroism on short fights.
- Rawr.DPSWarrior: Updated PvP set bonuses. Implemented ArPen capping from special effects.
- Rawr.Elemental: Several minor fixes.
- Rawr.Cat: Fix for crit capping due to special effects. Accurate modelling of Deathbringer's Will.
- Rawr.ProtWarr: Fix for expertise from racials.
- Rawr.Healadin: Support for new Libram.
- Rawr.Hunter: Fix for hit optimization, pet talents, and a rare issue with viper uptime. Handling for Zod's Repeating Longbow. Fix for Chimera Shot + Serpent Sting interaction.
- Rawr.RestoSham: Added/improved support for many more trinkets.
- Rawr.Moonkin: Fix for calculations of rotations that are mana neutral.
- Rawr.Rogue: Implemented most 3.3 changes.
- Rawr.DPSDK: Implemented Deathbringer's Will.

Latas · 12/18/09, 5:57 AM

2.3.3 seems to be missing a lot of the items that dropped from the heroic versions of the encounters and the bosses yet to be released that 2.3.2 had.

Edit: Disregard this, you can still get them from armory.

WinterWind · 12/18/09, 1:17 PM

Originally Posted by cremor

Same place where you changed your rotation previously.

Err I misworded my question. The rotation changes yes, but there is no change at all reflected in the dps calculations. I've put in completely terrible rotations and the numbers remain exactly the same throughout.

cremor · 12/18/09, 1:29 PM

Read this post.

Ts` · 12/18/09, 3:49 PM

Could someone put the 2.3.3 .rar file on filefront or somewhere? the website isn't letting me download it at all

Astrylian · 12/18/09, 3:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ts`

Could someone put the 2.3.3 .rar file on filefront or somewhere? the website isn't letting me download it at all

Make sure you're downloading the release, not the source code. Source code downloads are broken right now, but release downloads work fine. (CodePlex bug, they're working on it)

Mijae · 12/19/09, 3:46 AM

There's 2 issues I've noticed...

1) There is a bug when adding [Nightmare Tear] to the gemming templates. It doesn't show any stats on the gem and has no value. [Enchanted Tear] shows up fine. This has actually been around for at least a few releases.

2) Open the optimizer. Add an additional requirement. Click on Optimize. Warning comes up with a message of too many items in a couple slots. Click on "No" to not optimize. The additional requirement you added is now grayed out and cannot be edited.

Bluefish · 12/19/09, 6:02 AM

Is there a way to manually edit the effects of set bonuses, or is that somewhere in the individual model files? The Elemental T9 4-piece set bonus was cut in half in 3.3 but the Elemental module hasn't been updated to reflect that. I'd like to manually edit it but I can't find where.

Hauraki · 12/19/09, 6:12 AM

2.3.3 still have the issue found in 2.3.2

enchant sort order seems wrong, many current enchant ended up in negative, or lower than other enchant, e.g. helm 50 ap 20 crit lower than 50 ap only, some enchant with ap or crit ende dup in negative.

both rog and dk so far

Astrylian · 12/19/09, 2:28 PM

There's some weirdness with Nightmare Tears that is proving troublesome to figure out, but we're working on it.

Nice catch about the additional requirement controls getting stuck disabled when you cancel out at a warning.

You can edit the BuffCache.xml file; find the buff in question, adjust its value, and set <IsCustom>true</IsCustom> on that buff, instead of false.

Hauraki, please follow the Bug Reporting Guidelines on our site, and post an issue (or multiple issues). We can't understand or help you from that.