It looks like that the Moonkin model over estimates Int, usually I only checked if Innervate was on self use but even with it 10 Int gems are factored higher than Recklessness ones. I will upload the file to the development site. I guess something is wrong here.

Another idea to tweak the optimizer, assuming that the item cache has some sort of flag for "equipped".

How hard would it be to implement a checkbox in the optimizer to "only use equipped gear"? A shortcut for the optimizer to focus only on gemming and enchants? Would be faster and make sense in cases where your best gear set is onvious and the gemmings is the main question.

The optimizer can take a long time to run even on low thoroughness, and I'm tinkering in tree right now. The results are coming out a little screwy, obsessing over mp5 and calling for 8 spirit gems in a number of places, even at the cost of good socket bonuses (like calling for 2 8 spirit gems in a life step belt, with it's 7 heal socket bonus and good socket colors).

Just an idea, I'm not as certain of the ins and outs of the tree model, I'm used to the bear and cat models being very very accurate (only flaw is lack of love for the idol of terror for bears, and I understand that's because of how procs are handled).

I've been using a 150 mp5 shadow priest parameter just to offset some of the model's tendency to cram mp5 over most everything. Actual boss fights have movement and cases of less casting which can help with regen, I figure it's a decent guess.

Well, currently the intended way to solve that is to mark only the equipped items as available, then run the optimizer. We may expand on that in the future, so thanks for the suggestion.

How would you go about optimizing resist sets for mobs that deals elemental damage through melee i.e. Hydross? Survival doesn't quite cut it because it doesn't take dodge into account, & overall rating takes armor into account as you know. Thanks.

That's a good point; currently there isn't a way to optimize that. I'll add that to my list for a later version. For now, you probably just want to optimize Frost Survival (or Nature), with an additional requirement of a certain % of avoidance, depending on your gear level.

Could the "Copy Character Stats to Clipboard" be fleshed out a little bit? Right now it only exports item name per slot. Could it be modified to export enchant+gems+item name per slot?

Likely the only thing wrong is that the calculations are showing you have too little mana regen for the specified fight length. Try sorting on Raw Damage/Raw DPS instead; that should give you the desired results.

Indeed, we're hoping to solve item gemming in a more usable way in Rawr 2.0. In the mean time, it may make it easier to know that the long lag you experience isn't random; that happens the first time you open the item editor after (re)launching Rawr. Rawr doesn't load items and item icons until it needs them, and opening the item editor 'needs' all known items, and their icons, so it has to load all of that, which causes the long delay. Once they're loaded, it should be noticeably quicker to load the Edit Items dialog (not instant still, but at least alot faster). But yeah, I realize it's not easy/intuitive/fast as it is, and we're going to be working on improving that for Rawr 2.0.

One small workaround is to add a buff that adds 35,900 armor to your character. This effectively removes armor as a desirable trait from your stats and makes the optimizer focus entirely on avoidance.

You can do this by adding this to the buffcache.xml file:
<Buff>
<Name>Elemental Mob</Name>
<Category>Debuffs</Category>
<Stats>
<Armor>35900</Armor>
</Stats>
<Type>ShortDurationDW</Type>
<ConflictingBuffs />
<SetThreshold>0</SetThreshold>
</Buff>

For prot warriors/paladins, you could also add something that removed all block rating which should make block value equally useless. The above works for bears at least.

Greetings, I wonder if there is any way to see how the stat ratings are on RAWR.

In addition, I don't see haste modeled for restoshammys, and atleast in 14.1 I found haste underrated a lot for my mage.

Haste is modeled for RestoShams as of b15.1. Haste is accurately modeled for mages, though you should still upgrade to b15.1 for bugfixes and performance improvements.

Can you clarify what you'd like to know about how Rawr rates gear?

Rawr doesn't rate stats, or rate gear by giving a value to its stats. Rawr rates gear by the effect that item has on your character. The difference in total rating between the character with that item equipped, and the character with that slot empty, is the value of that item. If you're not seeing a value of haste, it's probably because you're going OOM with the current fight parameters. Make sure you have everything fully filled out (items, enchants, buffs), and adjust the fight options to the correct duration that you want to compare for, probably downrank some, and then look.

I'll see about adding haste to the Relative Stat Values chart for the next version.

Thank you, I usually use vanilla non buffed stats for my ratings, I see that this might have been a mistake now.

Thanks again for hasty reply.

Hi. I've been makin heavy use of the optimiser in Rawr and find it excellent, particularly in working out the best way to hit crit immunity with the gear I have.

My problem now is that I wish to use my Vengeful Helm for both tanking and DPS, with the DPS enchant, RED & Agi gem. I have worked out how to specify the enchant, and have deleted all other gem combos for that item, but when I run the optimiser (whether or not I tick "Override Regem) it always uses the Veng Helm with the stam gem & meta and creates the new gemming in the item list (the enchant is the correct DPS one though).

Is there an easy way to force it to use the gemming I want for the helm?

There certainly is. Click on the green diamond next to that item in the chart, then ctrl-click it to mark just that specific gemming available only, with a blue diamond. You can also right click on the diamond to specify a specific enchant as well.

OK. Really confused now. I have deleted all duplicates so only the gemming I want is there. I have control-clicked on the item to make the diamond blue, and right clicked to specify the enchant I want.

So the item has a blue diamond with a red dot next to it. I use the optimiser (with or without the options ticked) and every time I end up with the wrong gems. Is this a bug or am I still doing something wrong?

Could we get an option for "Infinite Mana" or something so that we can build a max DPS / HPS set more easely?

We can tinker combat time and shadowpriest regen offcourse but It doesnt seem to cut it.

I think Rawr.bear has some equations off for actual defense and defense rating. I found that rawr is telling me I am crit immune with a gear set, but then I equip it in-game and run my macros / mods to calc it and I am crittable.

Could you double check the defense enchants for chest and wrists, as well as the resilience to chest?

No, those are correct. There's no problem there. Most likely, your in-game macro is rounding wrong, if you're very close to the uncrittability mark, or you have some enchants/items/buffs set wrong in Rawr.

I feel retarded now, I forgot I had the Flask of Fortification checked >_<

Finally got around to uploading this file (pending my account on CP being activated). Details:
The attached character .xml has been run through the optimizer, this is the result, showing 1573.78 RawDPS (which is the value I'm optimizing by). By switching the gem in the blue socket in the boots to a Glowing Nightseye, thus activating the meta without needing the Staff, I can equip the Badge dagger and jump to 1597.43 RDPS, a far-from-trivial jump.

Thanks very much, we'll take a look.